You are viewing a plain text version of this content. The canonical link for it is here.
Posted to users@spamassassin.apache.org by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org> on 2006/07/27 08:10:31 UTC
Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Fedora Core 4 ships with SpamAssassin 3.0.3 and Net::DNS 0.49
installed by default.
Are both of these versions safe to use? Do they avoid the
"DNS packets mixed up" bugs:
http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=3997
http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4260
If not, what versions should be used?
Cheers,
Jeff C.
--
Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>
> On 7/27/2006 2:39 AM, jdow wrote:
>
>> Both Jeff and I are perplexed over a trio of hits on newnanutilities.org
>> in a message referring to the Fedora update mirror they host.
>
> Three mixed up hits on separate messages? I could sort of see it
> happening if the cache on all/most lookups for the message expired
> between checks.
>
>
>> I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
>
> *shrug* not sure why you still insist on running 3.0.
I keep telling myself it's time to hit 3.1.x, at least. But then I
realize I'd have to figure out how to put in the print options that
allow Loren to see the headers or body the way the rules engines
see them for writing good rules.
{^_^}
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by John Andersen <js...@pen.homeip.net>.
On Thursday 27 July 2006 04:02, jdow wrote:
> So I use CPAN for SpamAssassin.
Every Distro supports Perl and CPAN.
So why not just stop releasing ANY distro specific RPMs
tars, emerges etc?
Make the CPAN distribution smart enough to work around
those perpetually broken cpan packages, or remove any
feature that uses same.
--
_____________________________________
John Andersen
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Radoslaw Zielinski" <ra...@gmail.com>
> No, it doesn't trim out the rules. Unless the packager is mad.
I did NOT say the rules were left out. The TOOLS was left out, a
whole nice directory full of tools like the official SA version of
sa-stats.pl, and so forth. It normally appears as part of the
/usr/share/doc/spamassassin*/ directory as "tools". For at least
one distro of Fedora Core all that appeared in that directory were
pure documentation files. None of the rest of the stuff appeared.
Back in Red Hat days the other directories were supported in a
spamassassin-tools rpm file. Now that seems to be dropped. At least
when I went looking for sa-stats.pl on the FC4 distro I could not
find it and ripped the distro's spamassassin out by its tonsils
with extreme prejudice and installed via CPAN, which worked properly.
{^_^}
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by Radoslaw Zielinski <ra...@gmail.com>.
jdow <jd...@earthlink.net> [27-07-2006 14:02]:
> From: "Radoslaw Zielinski" <ra...@gmail.com>
[...]
>> Just get the *.spec file from the *.src.rpm, change Version: 3.0.x to
>> 3.1.4, put source in `rpmbuild -E %_sourcedir` and run rpmbuild -bb.
> Nah - I've learned not to use distro versions of SpamAssassin. They
> are mostly broken. They seem to leave out little things like all
> the SpamAssassin tools.
If the dev team doesn't consider them worthy to be installed (by
including in EXE_FILES in Makefile.PL), why should the distributors?
> Making a spec file version probably trims
> out the rules, too. So I use CPAN for SpamAssassin. (And I have learned
[...]
No, it doesn't trim out the rules. Unless the packager is mad.
--
Radosław Zieliński <ra...@pld-linux.org>
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Radoslaw Zielinski" <ra...@gmail.com>
> Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org> [27-07-2006 09:34]:
>> On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:56:27 PM, Daryl O'Shea wrote:
>>> On 7/27/2006 2:39 AM, jdow wrote:
> [...]
>>>> I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
>>> *shrug* not sure why you still insist on running 3.0.
>> Fedora Core 4 doesn't seem to have 3.1.3 rpms that will work
>> easily. In particular they need a newer version of glibc.
>
> Just get the *.spec file from the *.src.rpm, change Version: 3.0.x to
> 3.1.4, put source in `rpmbuild -E %_sourcedir` and run rpmbuild -bb.
Nah - I've learned not to use distro versions of SpamAssassin. They
are mostly broken. They seem to leave out little things like all
the SpamAssassin tools. Making a spec file version probably trims
out the rules, too. So I use CPAN for SpamAssassin. (And I have learned
to "doubt" the veracity of all the other elements of the distros as
a result. RedHat used to be pretty good. Fedora is pretty close to
trash.)
{^_^}
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by Radoslaw Zielinski <ra...@gmail.com>.
Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org> [27-07-2006 09:34]:
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:56:27 PM, Daryl O'Shea wrote:
>> On 7/27/2006 2:39 AM, jdow wrote:
[...]
>>> I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
>> *shrug* not sure why you still insist on running 3.0.
> Fedora Core 4 doesn't seem to have 3.1.3 rpms that will work
> easily. In particular they need a newer version of glibc.
Just get the *.spec file from the *.src.rpm, change Version: 3.0.x to
3.1.4, put source in `rpmbuild -E %_sourcedir` and run rpmbuild -bb.
--
Radosław Zieliński <ra...@pld-linux.org>
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by "Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>.
Jeff Chan wrote:
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:56:27 PM, Daryl O'Shea wrote:
>> On 7/27/2006 2:39 AM, jdow wrote:
>
>>> Both Jeff and I are perplexed over a trio of hits on newnanutilities.org
>>> in a message referring to the Fedora update mirror they host.
>
>> Three mixed up hits on separate messages? I could sort of see it
>> happening if the cache on all/most lookups for the message expired
>> between checks.
>
>
>>> I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
>
>> *shrug* not sure why you still insist on running 3.0.
>
> Fedora Core 4 doesn't seem to have 3.1.3 rpms that will work
> easily. In particular they need a newer version of glibc.
>
> Daryl,
> Can you determine if 3.0.6 is safe to use with Net::DNS 0.49?
3.0.6 will exhibit the same occasional mix-ups as the rest of the 3.0
series, regardless of the version on Net::DNS installed.
Daryl
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Jeff Chan" <je...@surbl.org>
> On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:56:27 PM, Daryl O'Shea wrote:
>> On 7/27/2006 2:39 AM, jdow wrote:
>
>>> Both Jeff and I are perplexed over a trio of hits on newnanutilities.org
>>> in a message referring to the Fedora update mirror they host.
>
>> Three mixed up hits on separate messages? I could sort of see it
>> happening if the cache on all/most lookups for the message expired
>> between checks.
>
>
>>> I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
>
>> *shrug* not sure why you still insist on running 3.0.
>
> Fedora Core 4 doesn't seem to have 3.1.3 rpms that will work
> easily. In particular they need a newer version of glibc.
<snicker> Fedora Core 4 thinks I am running 3.3 at the moment.
I loaded the real 3.0.3 via CPAN and hand modified to 4, 5, and 6
by making my own diffs.
{^_-}
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by "John D. Hardin" <jh...@impsec.org>.
On Thu, 27 Jul 2006, Jeff Chan wrote:
> Fedora Core 4 doesn't seem to have 3.1.3 rpms that will work
> easily. In particular they need a newer version of glibc.
My virtual hosting site is running FC4. I compiled 3.1.3 from the
pristine source (after removing the 3.0.mumble RPM) and have had zero
problems so far. It was very simple and straightforward.
You may also want to go into CPAN and update the dependencies.
--
John Hardin KA7OHZ ICQ#15735746 http://www.impsec.org/~jhardin/
jhardin@impsec.org FALaholic #11174 pgpk -a jhardin@impsec.org
key: 0xB8732E79 - 2D8C 34F4 6411 F507 136C AF76 D822 E6E6 B873 2E79
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Insofar as the police deter by their presence, they are very, very
good. Criminals take great pains not to commit a crime in front of
them. -- Jeffrey Snyder
-----------------------------------------------------------------------
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by Jeff Chan <je...@surbl.org>.
On Wednesday, July 26, 2006, 11:56:27 PM, Daryl O'Shea wrote:
> On 7/27/2006 2:39 AM, jdow wrote:
>> Both Jeff and I are perplexed over a trio of hits on newnanutilities.org
>> in a message referring to the Fedora update mirror they host.
> Three mixed up hits on separate messages? I could sort of see it
> happening if the cache on all/most lookups for the message expired
> between checks.
>> I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
> *shrug* not sure why you still insist on running 3.0.
Fedora Core 4 doesn't seem to have 3.1.3 rpms that will work
easily. In particular they need a newer version of glibc.
Daryl,
Can you determine if 3.0.6 is safe to use with Net::DNS 0.49?
Jeff C.
--
Jeff Chan
mailto:jeffc@surbl.org
http://www.surbl.org/
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by "Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>.
On 7/27/2006 2:39 AM, jdow wrote:
> Both Jeff and I are perplexed over a trio of hits on newnanutilities.org
> in a message referring to the Fedora update mirror they host.
Three mixed up hits on separate messages? I could sort of see it
happening if the cache on all/most lookups for the message expired
between checks.
> I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
*shrug* not sure why you still insist on running 3.0.
Daryl
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by jdow <jd...@earthlink.net>.
From: "Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>
> On 7/27/2006 2:10 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
>> Fedora Core 4 ships with SpamAssassin 3.0.3 and Net::DNS 0.49
>> installed by default.
>>
>> Are both of these versions safe to use?
>
> http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Security
>
>
>> Do they avoid the
>> "DNS packets mixed up" bugs:
>>
>> http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=3997
>> http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4260
>>
>> If not, what versions should be used?
>
> SA's own DNS resolver (DnsResolver.pm) was added for 3.1.0. With
> previous versions you run the risk of results from different DNS tests
> being mixed up.
>
> I can't recall any problems with Net::DNS 0.49.
Both Jeff and I are perplexed over a trio of hits on newnanutilities.org
in a message referring to the Fedora update mirror they host.
I am running 3.0.6, essentially.
{^_^}
Re: Which Net::DNS version for Fedora Core 4?
Posted by "Daryl C. W. O'Shea" <sp...@dostech.ca>.
On 7/27/2006 2:10 AM, Jeff Chan wrote:
> Fedora Core 4 ships with SpamAssassin 3.0.3 and Net::DNS 0.49
> installed by default.
>
> Are both of these versions safe to use?
http://wiki.apache.org/spamassassin/Security
> Do they avoid the
> "DNS packets mixed up" bugs:
>
> http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=3997
> http://issues.apache.org/SpamAssassin/show_bug.cgi?id=4260
>
> If not, what versions should be used?
SA's own DNS resolver (DnsResolver.pm) was added for 3.1.0. With
previous versions you run the risk of results from different DNS tests
being mixed up.
I can't recall any problems with Net::DNS 0.49.
Daryl