[DISCUSS]Actually attach a list style to the "Numbering #" paragraph styles

[RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com>]

On Writer, you have paragraph styles and numbering styles, and it is
possible to call the second kind of styles from the first ones in order to
build a series of paragraphs with automatic numbering or bullets.

On its default configuration, Writer offers a series of paragraph styles
called "Numbering #", with # going from 1 to 10 (and "Start", "Cont." and
"End" variants of all of them), as well as paragraph styles called "List
#".

The problem is that those paragraph styles cannot be used out of the box to
make numbered lists or bullets because they do not have a numbering style
associated: the "Numbering style" on the "Outline & Numbering" tab inside
the style properties is set to "None" on all those styles.

On the current form, those paragraph styles do not fulfil any purpose and
every now  and then (not very often, that's true) we have on the forums
confused users that do not understand why those "Numbering" styles do not
do numbering at all.

I think the default built-in template should be changed to actually
associate numbering styles to those paragraph styles.

See this old request on bugzilla

Bug 42280 - Numbering and List paragraph styles should have numbering style
by default

https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=42280

What do you think?

Regards
Ricardo

Re: [DISCUSS]Actually attach a list style to the "Numbering #" paragraph styles

[chengjh <ch...@apache.org>]

That's a good topic.

On Thu, Sep 13, 2012 at 10:15 PM, RGB ES <rg...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On Writer, you have paragraph styles and numbering styles, and it is
> possible to call the second kind of styles from the first ones in order to
> build a series of paragraphs with automatic numbering or bullets.
>
> On its default configuration, Writer offers a series of paragraph styles
> called "Numbering #", with # going from 1 to 10 (and "Start", "Cont." and
> "End" variants of all of them), as well as paragraph styles called "List
> #".
>
> The problem is that those paragraph styles cannot be used out of the box to
> make numbered lists or bullets because they do not have a numbering style
> associated: the "Numbering style" on the "Outline & Numbering" tab inside
> the style properties is set to "None" on all those styles.
>
> On the current form, those paragraph styles do not fulfil any purpose and
> every now  and then (not very often, that's true) we have on the forums
> confused users that do not understand why those "Numbering" styles do not
> do numbering at all.
>
Agree. At least, from the names,end users will be confused.
[1]The series of para styles are named by the format "List X" and
"Numbering X"(X:1-5)), but after applying the styles to paragraphs,end
users don't get the numbered or bullet results.I am sure very few end users
can know their usages.
[2]When switching to "List Styles",end users will also see series of built
in Numbering Styles with the same name format  "List X" and "Numbering
X"(X:1-5))...For end users, it is difficult to know their difference.

I propose:
A)Re-structure the names of these paragraph styles with the name
format  "List X" and "Numbering X"(X:1-5)) to provide clear semantic.
B)Provide preview capability for these styles to let end users easily know
what the actual result will be like..
C)Provide the UI entry that can support end users to bind a expected
paragraph style to a level of a numbering list style,thus end users can use
the paragraph style to format paragraph directly because it is not enough
to just bind a paragraph to a numbering list style,the level info is
necessary.


> I think the default built-in template should be changed to actually
> associate numbering styles to those paragraph styles.
>
> See this old request on bugzilla
>
> Bug 42280 - Numbering and List paragraph styles should have numbering style
> by default
>
> https://issues.apache.org/ooo/show_bug.cgi?id=42280
>
> What do you think?
>
> Regards
> Ricardo
>



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