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Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Hi all,
I think it's about time we had a release. It's been over two years since
the last one and during that time we've made significant progress in a
number of areas:
* XML Schema 1.1
* JAXP 1.4
* StAX event API (javax.xml.stream.events)
* Element Traversal API [1] (org.w3c.dom.ElementTraversal)
* Unicode normalization and normalization checking
among other enhancements.
Before we can do the Xerces release, we're first going to need to get out
an official release of the JAXP 1.4 APIs from XML Commons. The coding has
been done for awhile now. Just needs some documentation updates and a
release candidate to vote on. If anyone would like to help out with that it
would be appreciated. Hoping we could wrap that up and roll out releases
from the other branches of XML Commons over the next month.
Then we could start preparing the Xerces-J release. There's been a bit of
chatter about having one in December. How does Friday, December 18th sound?
Just before the end of the year.
I'm thinking that we'd release two sets of binaries for 2.10.0, one built
from the trunk and an experimental one from the XML Schema 1.1 branch so
that the community could start to try out the new features: assertions,
conditional type assessment, etc... with an understanding that things could
change in the future along with the spec which isn't final yet.
What do folks think?
Thanks.
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/ElementTraversal/
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Posted by Mukul Gandhi <mu...@apache.org>.
Hi Michael,
Thanks for sharing the release update for next version of Xerces.
I am quite excited to seeing the new Xerces-J release, available to
the community :) The timing of the release, as you wrote, looks great
to me :)
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael Glavassevich
<mr...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think it's about time we had a release. It's been over two years since the
> last one and during that time we've made significant progress in a number of
> areas:
>
> * XML Schema 1.1
> * JAXP 1.4
> * StAX event API (javax.xml.stream.events)
> * Element Traversal API [1] (org.w3c.dom.ElementTraversal)
> * Unicode normalization and normalization checking
>
> among other enhancements.
>
> Before we can do the Xerces release, we're first going to need to get out an
> official release of the JAXP 1.4 APIs from XML Commons. The coding has been
> done for awhile now. Just needs some documentation updates and a release
> candidate to vote on. If anyone would like to help out with that it would be
> appreciated. Hoping we could wrap that up and roll out releases from the
> other branches of XML Commons over the next month.
>
> Then we could start preparing the Xerces-J release. There's been a bit of
> chatter about having one in December. How does Friday, December 18th sound?
> Just before the end of the year.
>
> I'm thinking that we'd release two sets of binaries for 2.10.0, one built
> from the trunk and an experimental one from the XML Schema 1.1 branch so
> that the community could start to try out the new features: assertions,
> conditional type assessment, etc... with an understanding that things could
> change in the future along with the spec which isn't final yet.
>
> What do folks think?
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/ElementTraversal/
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
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Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Posted by Mukul Gandhi <mu...@apache.org>.
Hi Michael,
On Tue, Oct 20, 2009 at 7:43 PM, Michael Glavassevich
<mr...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
> Out of curiosity do Roger's examples work with the current version of
> PsychoPath in Eclipse or is there still more work which needs to be done
> there to support them?
Yesterday itself, I tested all of Roger's assertions examples
(provided on his web site) with the Xerces-J schema-dev SVN code, and
following are my findings, in relation to Xerces, PsychoPath and
Eclipse WTP:
1) The current Eclipse WTP release can be accessed from,
http://download.eclipse.org/webtools/downloads/
The most stable milestone Eclipse WTP release (from Eclipse) looks
like, 3.2.0M2.
But I actually tried Xerces assertions yesterday with one of the more
recent PsychoPath codebase (i.e, code improvements later than Eclipse
WTP 3.2.0M2), available from:
https://build.eclipse.org/hudson/view/WTP/job/cbi-wtp-wst.xsl.psychopath/ [1]
This URL [1] is been configured by the PsychoPath team, to build
PsychoPath on a two hourly basis (following a principle of continuous
application integration). The PsychoPath build is triggered, only when
any PsychoPath code is changed. But the build scheduler at Eclipse
Hudson, tries running the PsychoPath build every 2 hours (and produces
the PsychoPath, JAR if any PsychoPath code changes).
2) The current PsychoPath codebase has W3C test suite success rate of
99.5% I guess (this was reported by Dave Carver few days ago, and it
looks quite good to me!). The PsychoPath JARs available at [1], will
eventually become part of Eclipse WTP in future.
The URL [1] was created by the PsychoPath team, to provide PsychoPath
adopters like Xerces to download PsychoPath JAR without downloading
the whole Eclipse WTP.
3) I think, I ran successfully something like 95% of Roger's
assertions examples with Xerces assertions. The Roger's assertions
examples which failed with Xerces, had some workaround possible (I
don't think, there are major bugs in Xerces assertions in relation to
this), to be running successfully.
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Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi Mukul,
Mukul Gandhi <mu...@apache.org> wrote on 10/20/2009 12:40:51 AM:
> Hi Michael,
> I have read quite a bit of Roger's XML Schema 1.1 tutorial. I
> particularly, also find the XML Schema 1.1 examples, which Roger has
> provided at his web site.
> I have tried running few samples for XML Schema 1.1 assertions, and
> CTA and most of the examples which Roger has provided run fine with
> current Xerces-J SVN code.
>
> Roger's assertions examples, which do not work with Xerces-J, is due
> to few limitations of PsychoPath XPath 2.0 engine (but the current
> PaychoPath sources on Eclipse servers, have much better XPath 2.0
> compliance than PsychoPath JAR available at Xerces-J Apache SVN
> repository). Though, these PsychoPath issues, are not major ones and
> the community can write much of commonly used assertions for XML
> Schema's.
Out of curiosity do Roger's examples work with the current version of
PsychoPath in Eclipse or is there still more work which needs to be done
there to support them?
> On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Michael Glavassevich
> <mr...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
> > Not sure we need a formal code freeze, though agree that we should get
> > things stabilized as the release approaches. I think we've done a good
job
> > with that on previous releases.
> >
> > Regarding conformance, there is no W3C test suite yet so our confidence
on
> > this is going to have to come from our own testing of it. I've been
hearing
> > some buzz about there being another GHOP [1] this year so perhaps
there's an
> > opportunity to get some folks involved with a fresh set of eyes tohelp
with
> > testing and provide feedback on what we have so far, perhaps also
creating
> > some examples. Can also point users to the articles [2][3] we've been
> > writing and the XML Schema 1.1 tutorial [4] which Roger Costello
created (I
> > think Mukul has already taken a look at this and could comment on its
> > usefulness).
> >
> > Thanks.
> >
> > [1] http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/
> > [2] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-xml11pt1/
> > [3] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-xml11pt2/
> > [4] http://www.xfront.com/xml-schema-1-1/
> >
> > Michael Glavassevich
> > XML Parser Development
> > IBM Toronto Lab
> > E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
> --
> Regards,
> Mukul Gandhi
>
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XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Posted by Mukul Gandhi <mu...@apache.org>.
Hi Michael,
I have read quite a bit of Roger's XML Schema 1.1 tutorial. I
particularly, also find the XML Schema 1.1 examples, which Roger has
provided at his web site.
I have tried running few samples for XML Schema 1.1 assertions, and
CTA and most of the examples which Roger has provided run fine with
current Xerces-J SVN code.
Roger's assertions examples, which do not work with Xerces-J, is due
to few limitations of PsychoPath XPath 2.0 engine (but the current
PaychoPath sources on Eclipse servers, have much better XPath 2.0
compliance than PsychoPath JAR available at Xerces-J Apache SVN
repository). Though, these PsychoPath issues, are not major ones and
the community can write much of commonly used assertions for XML
Schema's.
On Mon, Oct 19, 2009 at 1:55 AM, Michael Glavassevich
<mr...@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
> Not sure we need a formal code freeze, though agree that we should get
> things stabilized as the release approaches. I think we've done a good job
> with that on previous releases.
>
> Regarding conformance, there is no W3C test suite yet so our confidence on
> this is going to have to come from our own testing of it. I've been hearing
> some buzz about there being another GHOP [1] this year so perhaps there's an
> opportunity to get some folks involved with a fresh set of eyes to help with
> testing and provide feedback on what we have so far, perhaps also creating
> some examples. Can also point users to the articles [2][3] we've been
> writing and the XML Schema 1.1 tutorial [4] which Roger Costello created (I
> think Mukul has already taken a look at this and could comment on its
> usefulness).
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/
> [2] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-xml11pt1/
> [3] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-xml11pt2/
> [4] http://www.xfront.com/xml-schema-1-1/
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
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Regards,
Mukul Gandhi
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Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Posted by Michael Glavassevich <mr...@ca.ibm.com>.
Hi Arthur,
Not sure we need a formal code freeze, though agree that we should get
things stabilized as the release approaches. I think we've done a good job
with that on previous releases.
Regarding conformance, there is no W3C test suite yet so our confidence on
this is going to have to come from our own testing of it. I've been hearing
some buzz about there being another GHOP [1] this year so perhaps there's
an opportunity to get some folks involved with a fresh set of eyes to help
with testing and provide feedback on what we have so far, perhaps also
creating some examples. Can also point users to the articles [2][3] we've
been writing and the XML Schema 1.1 tutorial [4] which Roger Costello
created (I think Mukul has already taken a look at this and could comment
on its usefulness).
Thanks.
[1] http://code.google.com/opensource/ghop/2007-8/
[2] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/xml/library/x-xml11pt1/
[3] http://www.ibm.com/developerworks/library/x-xml11pt2/
[4] http://www.xfront.com/xml-schema-1-1/
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
Arthur De Magalhaes/Toronto/IBM@IBMCA wrote on 10/18/2009 07:59:12 AM:
>
> Sounds good Michael,
>
> For the experimental 1.1 branch, should we perhaps have a code
> freeze period to stabilize it and run some tests over it (1 week
> maybe)? I think the experimental branch would become more
> attractive if some conformance numbers could be claimed and we could
> also have some examples showing how to use the new features - of
> course, only the examples of the things that actualy went into the
> branch at that point. =)
>
> Thx,
>
> Arthur De Magalhaes
> Software Engineer - XML Parser & XCI Development
> IBM Canada - Toronto Lab
> Phone: 905-413-2993 T/L 313-2993
> E-mail: arthurdm@ca.ibm.com
>
>
>
> Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>
> 10/17/2009 01:35 AM
>
> Please respond to
> j-dev@xerces.apache.org
>
> To
>
> j-dev@xerces.apache.org
>
> cc
>
> Subject
>
> Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
>
>
>
>
> +1 to the release plan. Good timing indeed.
>
> Thanks,
> Hiranya
>
> On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael Glavassevich
<mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> > wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think it's about time we had a release. It's been over two years
> since the last one and during that time we've made significant
> progress in a number of areas:
>
> * XML Schema 1.1
> * JAXP 1.4
> * StAX event API (javax.xml.stream.events)
> * Element Traversal API [1] (org.w3c.dom.ElementTraversal)
> * Unicode normalization and normalization checking
>
> among other enhancements.
>
> Before we can do the Xerces release, we're first going to need to
> get out an official release of the JAXP 1.4 APIs from XML Commons.
> The coding has been done for awhile now. Just needs some
> documentation updates and a release candidate to vote on. If anyone
> would like to help out with that it would be appreciated. Hoping we
> could wrap that up and roll out releases from the other branches of
> XML Commons over the next month.
>
> Then we could start preparing the Xerces-J release. There's been a
> bit of chatter about having one in December. How does Friday,
> December 18th sound? Just before the end of the year.
>
> I'm thinking that we'd release two sets of binaries for 2.10.0, one
> built from the trunk and an experimental one from the XML Schema 1.1
> branch so that the community could start to try out the new
> features: assertions, conditional type assessment, etc... with an
> understanding that things could change in the future along with the
> spec which isn't final yet.
>
> What do folks think?
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/ElementTraversal/
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
>
>
> --
> Hiranya Jayathilaka
> Software Engineer;
> WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org
> E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
> Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Posted by Arthur De Magalhaes <ar...@ca.ibm.com>.
Sounds good Michael,
For the experimental 1.1 branch, should we perhaps have a code freeze
period to stabilize it and run some tests over it (1 week maybe)? I
think the experimental branch would become more attractive if some
conformance numbers could be claimed and we could also have some examples
showing how to use the new features - of course, only the examples of the
things that actualy went into the branch at that point. =)
Thx,
Arthur De Magalhaes
Software Engineer - XML Parser & XCI Development
IBM Canada - Toronto Lab
Phone: 905-413-2993 T/L 313-2993
E-mail: arthurdm@ca.ibm.com
Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>
10/17/2009 01:35 AM
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j-dev@xerces.apache.org
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+1 to the release plan. Good timing indeed.
Thanks,
Hiranya
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael Glavassevich <
mrglavas@ca.ibm.com> wrote:
Hi all,
I think it's about time we had a release. It's been over two years since
the last one and during that time we've made significant progress in a
number of areas:
* XML Schema 1.1
* JAXP 1.4
* StAX event API (javax.xml.stream.events)
* Element Traversal API [1] (org.w3c.dom.ElementTraversal)
* Unicode normalization and normalization checking
among other enhancements.
Before we can do the Xerces release, we're first going to need to get out
an official release of the JAXP 1.4 APIs from XML Commons. The coding has
been done for awhile now. Just needs some documentation updates and a
release candidate to vote on. If anyone would like to help out with that
it would be appreciated. Hoping we could wrap that up and roll out
releases from the other branches of XML Commons over the next month.
Then we could start preparing the Xerces-J release. There's been a bit of
chatter about having one in December. How does Friday, December 18th
sound? Just before the end of the year.
I'm thinking that we'd release two sets of binaries for 2.10.0, one built
from the trunk and an experimental one from the XML Schema 1.1 branch so
that the community could start to try out the new features: assertions,
conditional type assessment, etc... with an understanding that things
could change in the future along with the spec which isn't final yet.
What do folks think?
Thanks.
[1] http://www.w3.org/TR/ElementTraversal/
Michael Glavassevich
XML Parser Development
IBM Toronto Lab
E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
--
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com
Re: Release plan for Xerces-J 2.10.0
Posted by Hiranya Jayathilaka <hi...@gmail.com>.
+1 to the release plan. Good timing indeed.
Thanks,
Hiranya
On Wed, Oct 14, 2009 at 11:25 AM, Michael Glavassevich
<mr...@ca.ibm.com>wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I think it's about time we had a release. It's been over two years since
> the last one and during that time we've made significant progress in a
> number of areas:
>
> * XML Schema 1.1
> * JAXP 1.4
> * StAX event API (javax.xml.stream.events)
> * Element Traversal API [1] (org.w3c.dom.ElementTraversal)
> * Unicode normalization and normalization checking
>
> among other enhancements.
>
> Before we can do the Xerces release, we're first going to need to get out
> an official release of the JAXP 1.4 APIs from XML Commons. The coding has
> been done for awhile now. Just needs some documentation updates and a
> release candidate to vote on. If anyone would like to help out with that it
> would be appreciated. Hoping we could wrap that up and roll out releases
> from the other branches of XML Commons over the next month.
>
> Then we could start preparing the Xerces-J release. There's been a bit of
> chatter about having one in December. How does Friday, December 18th sound?
> Just before the end of the year.
>
> I'm thinking that we'd release two sets of binaries for 2.10.0, one built
> from the trunk and an experimental one from the XML Schema 1.1 branch so
> that the community could start to try out the new features: assertions,
> conditional type assessment, etc... with an understanding that things could
> change in the future along with the spec which isn't final yet.
>
> What do folks think?
>
> Thanks.
>
> [1] http://www.w3.org/TR/ElementTraversal/
>
> Michael Glavassevich
> XML Parser Development
> IBM Toronto Lab
> E-mail: mrglavas@ca.ibm.com
> E-mail: mrglavas@apache.org
>
--
Hiranya Jayathilaka
Software Engineer;
WSO2 Inc.; http://wso2.org
E-mail: hiranya@wso2.com; Mobile: +94 77 633 3491
Blog: http://techfeast-hiranya.blogspot.com