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Posted to dev@subversion.apache.org by Mike Watters <va...@gmail.com> on 2009/06/13 17:44:18 UTC
[PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
attached is a patch that will update the getting.html page to include the binary distributions available at http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion
Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Mike Watters <va...@gmail.com>.
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Stefan Sperling wrote:
> We usually just add any submitted links to the bottom of the lists.
> Patch submitters usually put them on top.
>
> CollabNet's binaries aren't more special than others.
>
> Stefan
It is not a problem, just wanted to get it added to the list.
top, bottom, middle really don't make a difference.
The link has been corrected on web page on my end as well.
- --
Thanks,
Mike
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex,
and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage --
to move in the opposite direction."
* Albert Einstein 1879 - 1955
US German-born Theoretical Physicist
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Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 10:48 AM, Stefan Sperling<st...@elego.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 09:44:36AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
>> I've not looked at the page recently, but I helped with the last
>> redesign. One thing I had done was make everything alphabetized (list
>> of OS's and then list of packages for an OS). That seemed like the
>> easiest way to not play any favorites.
>
> Good idea. What about a small comment at the top of the list
> which asks people to keep things alphabetized?
> It might not always be seen but could help a small bit.
Looks good to me.
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Mike Watters <va...@gmail.com>.
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Karl Fogel wrote:
> Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de> writes:
>>> I've not looked at the page recently, but I helped with the last
>>> redesign. One thing I had done was make everything alphabetized (list
>>> of OS's and then list of packages for an OS). That seemed like the
>>> easiest way to not play any favorites.
>
> Listing things in the order they were available/submitted is also a good
> way to not play favorites, and yet doesn't reward companies for choosing
> names at the beginning of the alphabet :-).
>
> I think chronological order is better in situations like this... IMHO,
> frankly, a company that has been making binaries available for years
> shouldn't suddenly be listed after a company that just showed up to the
> party this afternoon.
Not that my opinion really matters in this discussion, but I agree with Karl.
maintainers that have been around forever should be listed above companies that
just popped up.
- --
Thanks,
Mike
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex,
and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage --
to move in the opposite direction."
* Albert Einstein 1879 - 1955
US German-born Theoretical Physicist
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Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de>.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 02:30:34PM -0700, Blair Zajac wrote:
> Karl Fogel wrote:
> > Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de> writes:
> >>> I've not looked at the page recently, but I helped with the last
> >>> redesign. One thing I had done was make everything alphabetized (list
> >>> of OS's and then list of packages for an OS). That seemed like the
> >>> easiest way to not play any favorites.
> >
> > Listing things in the order they were available/submitted is also a good
> > way to not play favorites, and yet doesn't reward companies for choosing
> > names at the beginning of the alphabet :-).
> >
> > I think chronological order is better in situations like this... IMHO,
> > frankly, a company that has been making binaries available for years
> > shouldn't suddenly be listed after a company that just showed up to the
> > party this afternoon.
>
> That's what we've been doing up to now for links to external URLs, so +1 on
> submission order, -0 on alphabetical order.
I'm indifferent. Everyone, feel free to revert r38033 if you feel
strongly about it.
Stefan
Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Blair Zajac <bl...@orcaware.com>.
Karl Fogel wrote:
> Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de> writes:
>>> I've not looked at the page recently, but I helped with the last
>>> redesign. One thing I had done was make everything alphabetized (list
>>> of OS's and then list of packages for an OS). That seemed like the
>>> easiest way to not play any favorites.
>
> Listing things in the order they were available/submitted is also a good
> way to not play favorites, and yet doesn't reward companies for choosing
> names at the beginning of the alphabet :-).
>
> I think chronological order is better in situations like this... IMHO,
> frankly, a company that has been making binaries available for years
> shouldn't suddenly be listed after a company that just showed up to the
> party this afternoon.
That's what we've been doing up to now for links to external URLs, so +1 on
submission order, -0 on alphabetical order.
Blair
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Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Karl Fogel <kf...@red-bean.com>.
Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de> writes:
>> I've not looked at the page recently, but I helped with the last
>> redesign. One thing I had done was make everything alphabetized (list
>> of OS's and then list of packages for an OS). That seemed like the
>> easiest way to not play any favorites.
Listing things in the order they were available/submitted is also a good
way to not play favorites, and yet doesn't reward companies for choosing
names at the beginning of the alphabet :-).
I think chronological order is better in situations like this... IMHO,
frankly, a company that has been making binaries available for years
shouldn't suddenly be listed after a company that just showed up to the
party this afternoon.
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Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de>.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 09:44:36AM -0400, Mark Phippard wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Stefan Sperling<st...@elego.de> wrote:
> > On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 02:02:16AM +0200, Neels Janosch Hofmeyr wrote:
> >> Mike Watters wrote:
> >> > attached is a patch that will update the getting.html page to include
> >> > the binary distributions available at
> >> http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion
> >>
> >> r38026, but
> >>
> >> - Out of personal partial perception, I'm not putting your link at the top
> >> of the list, above CollabNet's certified binaries.
> >
> > We usually just add any submitted links to the bottom of the lists.
> > Patch submitters usually put them on top.
> >
> > CollabNet's binaries aren't more special than others.
>
> I've not looked at the page recently, but I helped with the last
> redesign. One thing I had done was make everything alphabetized (list
> of OS's and then list of packages for an OS). That seemed like the
> easiest way to not play any favorites.
Good idea. What about a small comment at the top of the list
which asks people to keep things alphabetized?
It might not always be seen but could help a small bit.
Stefan
Index: www/getting.html
===================================================================
--- www/getting.html (revision 38031)
+++ www/getting.html (working copy)
@@ -82,6 +82,8 @@
fast as they can to make binaries available.</b></p>
</div>
+<!-- When adding operating systems or package providers to this list,
+ please keep the list in alphabetical order. -->
<table width="700" border="1" cellpadding="4" class="sborder" style="margin-left:auto; margin-right:auto; text-align: center;">
<tr align="left" valign="top">
<td colspan="4"><div style="text-align: center;"><strong>Subversion Binary Packages</strong></div></td>
@@ -202,8 +204,8 @@
<div id="solaris" title="solaris">
<a href="http://www.collab.net/downloads/subversion/solaris.html">
CollabNet</a> (Certified binaries, SPARC & x86)<br/>
+ <a href="http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion">OpenCSW</a> (SPARC & i386)
<a href="http://www.sunfreeware.com/">Sunfreeware</a> (SPARC & i386)<br/>
- <a href="http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion">OpenCSW</a> (SPARC & i386)
</div> <!-- solaris -->
</td>
Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Mark Phippard <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 5:55 AM, Stefan Sperling<st...@elego.de> wrote:
> On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 02:02:16AM +0200, Neels Janosch Hofmeyr wrote:
>> Mike Watters wrote:
>> > attached is a patch that will update the getting.html page to include
>> > the binary distributions available at
>> http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion
>>
>> r38026, but
>>
>> - Out of personal partial perception, I'm not putting your link at the top
>> of the list, above CollabNet's certified binaries.
>
> We usually just add any submitted links to the bottom of the lists.
> Patch submitters usually put them on top.
>
> CollabNet's binaries aren't more special than others.
I've not looked at the page recently, but I helped with the last
redesign. One thing I had done was make everything alphabetized (list
of OS's and then list of packages for an OS). That seemed like the
easiest way to not play any favorites.
--
Thanks
Mark Phippard
http://markphip.blogspot.com/
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Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Stefan Sperling <st...@elego.de>.
On Sun, Jun 14, 2009 at 02:02:16AM +0200, Neels Janosch Hofmeyr wrote:
> Mike Watters wrote:
> > attached is a patch that will update the getting.html page to include
> > the binary distributions available at
> http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion
>
> r38026, but
>
> - Out of personal partial perception, I'm not putting your link at the top
> of the list, above CollabNet's certified binaries.
We usually just add any submitted links to the bottom of the lists.
Patch submitters usually put them on top.
CollabNet's binaries aren't more special than others.
Stefan
Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Mike Watters <va...@gmail.com>.
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Neels J Hofmeyr wrote:
> Mike Watters wrote:
>> attached is a patch that will update the getting.html page to include
>> the binary distributions available at
> http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion
>
> r38026, but
>
> - Out of personal partial perception, I'm not putting your link at the top
> of the list, above CollabNet's certified binaries.
>
> - The page linked to by your link contains a broken link:
> http://subversion.tigris.org/downloads/ does not exist.
> Could you fix that to just http://subversion.tigris.org , please?
>
> ~Neels
>
It may be Monday before the link is fixed, but I will make sure it gets fixed
asap. I am CCing package manager on our side to fix the link.
Thank you for adding the link.
Phil: I will submit the fix for the link in the next couple hours. if you can
push it up, I would be great full.
- --
Thanks,
Mike
"Any intelligent fool can make things bigger, more complex,
and more violent. It takes a touch of genius -- and a lot of courage --
to move in the opposite direction."
* Albert Einstein 1879 - 1955
US German-born Theoretical Physicist
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Re: [PATCH] subversion binaries available from OpenCSW project
Posted by Neels Janosch Hofmeyr <ne...@elego.de>.
Mike Watters wrote:
> attached is a patch that will update the getting.html page to include
> the binary distributions available at
http://www.opencsw.org/packages/subversion
r38026, but
- Out of personal partial perception, I'm not putting your link at the top
of the list, above CollabNet's certified binaries.
- The page linked to by your link contains a broken link:
http://subversion.tigris.org/downloads/ does not exist.
Could you fix that to just http://subversion.tigris.org , please?
~Neels
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