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Posted to commons-dev@ws.apache.org by Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com> on 2006/03/26 17:49:11 UTC
[Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Hi all,
I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
distributions for the XMLSchema.
Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
--
Ajith Ranabahu
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
+1 from me too!
Sanjiva.
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 11:37 +0600, Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> Hi,
> Cool, I'm ok with the version number 1.0.1 (and frankly I'm thinking
> that Jeremy has a point and 1.0.1 would be a better number than 1.1)
>
> Ajith
>
>
> On 3/27/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> > I'm interested in the reasoning about using 1.1 for small bugfix
> > release (including extra docs). I think v1.0.1 would be more fitting.
> > IMHO a v2 would likely include very significant new function or maybe
> > even a rearchitecture. v1.1 should contain new function and v1.0.1
> > would include bug fixes, doc updates etc. Users of v1.0 not requiring
> > new function would likely upgrade to v1.0.x quite readily in the
> > knowledge that only bugs have been fixed and no new (potentially
> > disruptive) functional changes have been made. Most projects in my
> > experience do it like this ... eg Axis
> >
> > So I'm +1 for a release. But maybe call it v1.0.1.
> >
> > Thx,
> > Jeremy
> >
> > On 3/27/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > > +1.
> > >
> > > Sanjiva.
> > >
> > > On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 15:07 -0500, Dan Diephouse wrote:
> > > > +1
> > > >
> > > > I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
> > > > weekend.
> > > > - Dan
> > > >
> > > > Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> > > > > Hi all,
> > > > > I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> > > > > though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
> > > > > distributions for the XMLSchema.
> > > > > Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
> > > > > to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> > > > > serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> > > > > we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > > > >
> > > > > here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > > > > --
> > > > > Ajith Ranabahu
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> Ajith Ranabahu
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
+1 for 1.0.1.
Lawrence Mandel
"Ajith Ranabahu" <aj...@gmail.com>
03/28/2006 12:37 AM
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Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Hi,
Cool, I'm ok with the version number 1.0.1 (and frankly I'm thinking
that Jeremy has a point and 1.0.1 would be a better number than 1.1)
Ajith
On 3/27/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm interested in the reasoning about using 1.1 for small bugfix
> release (including extra docs). I think v1.0.1 would be more fitting.
> IMHO a v2 would likely include very significant new function or maybe
> even a rearchitecture. v1.1 should contain new function and v1.0.1
> would include bug fixes, doc updates etc. Users of v1.0 not requiring
> new function would likely upgrade to v1.0.x quite readily in the
> knowledge that only bugs have been fixed and no new (potentially
> disruptive) functional changes have been made. Most projects in my
> experience do it like this ... eg Axis
>
> So I'm +1 for a release. But maybe call it v1.0.1.
>
> Thx,
> Jeremy
>
> On 3/27/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > +1.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 15:07 -0500, Dan Diephouse wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
> > > weekend.
> > > - Dan
> > >
> > > Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> > > > though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and
source
> > > > distributions for the XMLSchema.
> > > > Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and
due
> > > > to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> > > > serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> > > > we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > > >
> > > > here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > > > --
> > > > Ajith Ranabahu
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
--
Ajith Ranabahu
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Deepal jayasinghe <de...@gmail.com>.
I also think we have to have different version number since you have
fixed some bugs and update the document so here is my +1 for the version
number.
Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
>Hi,
>Cool, I'm ok with the version number 1.0.1 (and frankly I'm thinking
>that Jeremy has a point and 1.0.1 would be a better number than 1.1)
>
>Ajith
>
>
>On 3/27/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>
>>I'm interested in the reasoning about using 1.1 for small bugfix
>>release (including extra docs). I think v1.0.1 would be more fitting.
>>IMHO a v2 would likely include very significant new function or maybe
>>even a rearchitecture. v1.1 should contain new function and v1.0.1
>>would include bug fixes, doc updates etc. Users of v1.0 not requiring
>>new function would likely upgrade to v1.0.x quite readily in the
>>knowledge that only bugs have been fixed and no new (potentially
>>disruptive) functional changes have been made. Most projects in my
>>experience do it like this ... eg Axis
>>
>>So I'm +1 for a release. But maybe call it v1.0.1.
>>
>>Thx,
>>Jeremy
>>
>>On 3/27/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
>>
>>
>>>+1.
>>>
>>>Sanjiva.
>>>
>>>On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 15:07 -0500, Dan Diephouse wrote:
>>>
>>>
>>>>+1
>>>>
>>>>I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
>>>>weekend.
>>>>- Dan
>>>>
>>>>Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>>Hi all,
>>>>>I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
>>>>>though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
>>>>>distributions for the XMLSchema.
>>>>>Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
>>>>>to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
>>>>>serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
>>>>>we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
>>>>>
>>>>>here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
>>>>>--
>>>>>Ajith Ranabahu
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
>--
>Ajith Ranabahu
>
>
>
--
Thanks,
Deepal
................................................................
~Future is Open~
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Cool, I'm ok with the version number 1.0.1 (and frankly I'm thinking
that Jeremy has a point and 1.0.1 would be a better number than 1.1)
Ajith
On 3/27/06, Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> I'm interested in the reasoning about using 1.1 for small bugfix
> release (including extra docs). I think v1.0.1 would be more fitting.
> IMHO a v2 would likely include very significant new function or maybe
> even a rearchitecture. v1.1 should contain new function and v1.0.1
> would include bug fixes, doc updates etc. Users of v1.0 not requiring
> new function would likely upgrade to v1.0.x quite readily in the
> knowledge that only bugs have been fixed and no new (potentially
> disruptive) functional changes have been made. Most projects in my
> experience do it like this ... eg Axis
>
> So I'm +1 for a release. But maybe call it v1.0.1.
>
> Thx,
> Jeremy
>
> On 3/27/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> > +1.
> >
> > Sanjiva.
> >
> > On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 15:07 -0500, Dan Diephouse wrote:
> > > +1
> > >
> > > I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
> > > weekend.
> > > - Dan
> > >
> > > Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> > > > Hi all,
> > > > I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> > > > though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
> > > > distributions for the XMLSchema.
> > > > Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
> > > > to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> > > > serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> > > > we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > > >
> > > > here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > > > --
> > > > Ajith Ranabahu
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> >
> >
>
--
Ajith Ranabahu
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Jeremy Hughes <hu...@apache.org>.
I'm interested in the reasoning about using 1.1 for small bugfix
release (including extra docs). I think v1.0.1 would be more fitting.
IMHO a v2 would likely include very significant new function or maybe
even a rearchitecture. v1.1 should contain new function and v1.0.1
would include bug fixes, doc updates etc. Users of v1.0 not requiring
new function would likely upgrade to v1.0.x quite readily in the
knowledge that only bugs have been fixed and no new (potentially
disruptive) functional changes have been made. Most projects in my
experience do it like this ... eg Axis
So I'm +1 for a release. But maybe call it v1.0.1.
Thx,
Jeremy
On 3/27/06, Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk> wrote:
> +1.
>
> Sanjiva.
>
> On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 15:07 -0500, Dan Diephouse wrote:
> > +1
> >
> > I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
> > weekend.
> > - Dan
> >
> > Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> > > Hi all,
> > > I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> > > though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
> > > distributions for the XMLSchema.
> > > Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
> > > to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> > > serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> > > we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > >
> > > here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > > --
> > > Ajith Ranabahu
> > >
> >
> >
>
>
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
+1.
Sanjiva.
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 15:07 -0500, Dan Diephouse wrote:
> +1
>
> I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
> weekend.
> - Dan
>
> Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> > though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
> > distributions for the XMLSchema.
> > Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
> > to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> > serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> > we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> >
> > here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > --
> > Ajith Ranabahu
> >
>
>
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Dan Diephouse <da...@envoisolutions.com>.
Does the documentation work under Maven 2? I'd really like to be able to
release via Maven 2 as it does some of the hard work for us and it also
deploys to both m1/m2 repositories.
- Dan
Dan Diephouse wrote:
> +1
>
> I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
> weekend.
> - Dan
>
> Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
>> Hi all,
>> I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
>> though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
>> distributions for the XMLSchema.
>> Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
>> to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
>> serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
>> we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
>>
>> here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
>> --
>> Ajith Ranabahu
>>
>
>
--
Dan Diephouse
Envoi Solutions
http://envoisolutions.com
http://netzooid.com/blog
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Dan Diephouse <da...@envoisolutions.com>.
+1
I am travelling a lot this week, but I can help do the release this
weekend.
- Dan
Ajith Ranabahu wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
> distributions for the XMLSchema.
> Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
> to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
>
> here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> --
> Ajith Ranabahu
>
--
Dan Diephouse
Envoi Solutions
http://envoisolutions.com
http://netzooid.com/blog
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Davanum Srinivas <da...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me.
On 3/26/06, Ruchith Fernando <ru...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 from me
>
> Thanks,
> Ruchith
>
> On 3/26/06, Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> > I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> > though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
> > distributions for the XMLSchema.
> > Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
> > to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> > serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> > we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> >
> > here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> > --
> > Ajith Ranabahu
> >
>
--
Davanum Srinivas : http://wso2.com/blogs/
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Ruchith Fernando <ru...@gmail.com>.
+1 from me
Thanks,
Ruchith
On 3/26/06, Ajith Ranabahu <aj...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
> I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
> though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
> distributions for the XMLSchema.
> Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
> to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
> serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
> we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
>
> here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
> --
> Ajith Ranabahu
>
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
>The only way to provide management is for you to step up to doing more
>work for them :-).
Understood and agreed. As I'm quickly learning, this is the Apache way. I
don't have the time so I will follow the current arrangement.
>in WS land you have the authority to just do it (like Nike).
I must admit that this is pretty sweet for WS projects. I think we should
take this line as the WS slogan and place it on every web page :)
Lawrence Mandel
Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
03/28/2006 11:43 AM
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On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 02:32 -0500, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> Thanks for the response Sanjiva. The development model is not really
> frustrating but, like I said, is a bit concerning as there is no
> management of a project that Woden is dependent on. I can see how this
The only way to provide management is for you to step up to doing more
work for them :-).
> model can be useful for these common projects as they seem to be
developed
> on an even more volunteer (as you have time or find bugs) basis. Being
> relatively new at this I'll play along for now and see how things go.
Cool. Please don't translate "it ain't managed" to "its a mess" .. just
send notes to the appropriate -dev list when you want something and it
can/man happen. If you *really* want something to happen, then at least
in WS land you have the authority to just do it (like Nike).
> As far as what's new in the release, I'd like to see a high level
overview
> of what's changed in the release in the post that calls for the vote.
This
> will allow those of us that haven't been following that closely to at
> least get an idea of the big ticket items in a release and a better
> understanding of why the project should be released at this time. We can
> then follow up on issues we're really concerned about in Jira.
+1; this is a fair request!
Sanjiva.
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
On Tue, 2006-03-28 at 02:32 -0500, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> Thanks for the response Sanjiva. The development model is not really
> frustrating but, like I said, is a bit concerning as there is no
> management of a project that Woden is dependent on. I can see how this
The only way to provide management is for you to step up to doing more
work for them :-).
> model can be useful for these common projects as they seem to be developed
> on an even more volunteer (as you have time or find bugs) basis. Being
> relatively new at this I'll play along for now and see how things go.
Cool. Please don't translate "it ain't managed" to "its a mess" .. just
send notes to the appropriate -dev list when you want something and it
can/man happen. If you *really* want something to happen, then at least
in WS land you have the authority to just do it (like Nike).
> As far as what's new in the release, I'd like to see a high level overview
> of what's changed in the release in the post that calls for the vote. This
> will allow those of us that haven't been following that closely to at
> least get an idea of the big ticket items in a release and a better
> understanding of why the project should be released at this time. We can
> then follow up on issues we're really concerned about in Jira.
+1; this is a fair request!
Sanjiva.
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
Thanks for the response Sanjiva. The development model is not really
frustrating but, like I said, is a bit concerning as there is no
management of a project that Woden is dependent on. I can see how this
model can be useful for these common projects as they seem to be developed
on an even more volunteer (as you have time or find bugs) basis. Being
relatively new at this I'll play along for now and see how things go.
As far as what's new in the release, I'd like to see a high level overview
of what's changed in the release in the post that calls for the vote. This
will allow those of us that haven't been following that closely to at
least get an idea of the big ticket items in a release and a better
understanding of why the project should be released at this time. We can
then follow up on issues we're really concerned about in Jira.
Lawrence Mandel
Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>
03/26/2006 09:24 PM
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On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 18:26 -0500, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> This may just be because I'm used to a lot more structure working at
> Eclipse but I'm a little concerned with the lack of management of the WS
> commons projects. (I haven't voted -1 because I know I don't have the
> time to back up my request by filling this role.) The previous release
of
> XmlSchema was only a month ago. Instead of releasing new versions when
we
> feel like it I'd like to see a set release schedule or at least a set of
> new features that will be in the release. How about creating a milestone
> plan and declaring the current state and milestone 1 for the next
release?
Sorry Lawrence it doesn't work like that in Apache. We don't set a plan
and have someone cracking the whip to execute the plan. Developers who
care about a codebase and want to improve it work on it because it
scratches an itch. Dan pushed 1.0 thru because he wanted it for XFire.
Ajith is pushing 1.1 as there are some fixes that Axis2 would like to
depend on.
There is also the mantra of release early, release often. We don't
always keep to it but general wisdom is that its healthy for a project
to release early & often.
> As a start, can you detail the several crucial bugs that were fixed and
> why a release of XmlSchema is required at this point rather than just
> continuing on with daily snapshots? Is another project relying on this
> release? What benefit is there to declaring 1.1 at this point?
Main benefit is that Axis2 could depend on an improved version. You
certainly have a right to ask to see what bugs have been fixed .. I
assume you've already checked SVN and/or JIRA of course.
I can imagine this kind development model is frustrating for you .. but
that's the reality in ASF style development. You may want to check out a
recent thread on the same topic on axis-dev (and synapse-dev).
Sanjiva.
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
On Sun, 2006-03-26 at 18:26 -0500, Lawrence Mandel wrote:
> This may just be because I'm used to a lot more structure working at
> Eclipse but I'm a little concerned with the lack of management of the WS
> commons projects. (I haven't voted -1 because I know I don't have the
> time to back up my request by filling this role.) The previous release of
> XmlSchema was only a month ago. Instead of releasing new versions when we
> feel like it I'd like to see a set release schedule or at least a set of
> new features that will be in the release. How about creating a milestone
> plan and declaring the current state and milestone 1 for the next release?
Sorry Lawrence it doesn't work like that in Apache. We don't set a plan
and have someone cracking the whip to execute the plan. Developers who
care about a codebase and want to improve it work on it because it
scratches an itch. Dan pushed 1.0 thru because he wanted it for XFire.
Ajith is pushing 1.1 as there are some fixes that Axis2 would like to
depend on.
There is also the mantra of release early, release often. We don't
always keep to it but general wisdom is that its healthy for a project
to release early & often.
> As a start, can you detail the several crucial bugs that were fixed and
> why a release of XmlSchema is required at this point rather than just
> continuing on with daily snapshots? Is another project relying on this
> release? What benefit is there to declaring 1.1 at this point?
Main benefit is that Axis2 could depend on an improved version. You
certainly have a right to ask to see what bugs have been fixed .. I
assume you've already checked SVN and/or JIRA of course.
I can imagine this kind development model is frustrating for you .. but
that's the reality in ASF style development. You may want to check out a
recent thread on the same topic on axis-dev (and synapse-dev).
Sanjiva.
Re: [Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Posted by Lawrence Mandel <lm...@ca.ibm.com>.
This may just be because I'm used to a lot more structure working at
Eclipse but I'm a little concerned with the lack of management of the WS
commons projects. (I haven't voted -1 because I know I don't have the
time to back up my request by filling this role.) The previous release of
XmlSchema was only a month ago. Instead of releasing new versions when we
feel like it I'd like to see a set release schedule or at least a set of
new features that will be in the release. How about creating a milestone
plan and declaring the current state and milestone 1 for the next release?
As a start, can you detail the several crucial bugs that were fixed and
why a release of XmlSchema is required at this point rather than just
continuing on with daily snapshots? Is another project relying on this
release? What benefit is there to declaring 1.1 at this point?
Thanks,
Lawrence Mandel
"Ajith Ranabahu" <aj...@gmail.com>
03/26/2006 10:49 AM
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[Vote]New release of XMLSchema
Hi all,
I just commited some documentation (still at the maven 1 structure
though) and a patched up build script that generates binary and source
distributions for the XMLSchema.
Since the last XMLSchema release hardly had any documentation and due
to the fixing of several crucial bugs (such as errorneous
serialization of the schema in JDK 1.5) I propose
we do a commons XMLSchema 1.1 release.
here is my +1 for the XMLSchema 1.1 release.
--
Ajith Ranabahu