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[ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:

On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
>
> ./commons/proxy/binaries/commons-proxy-1.0.tar.gz
> ./commons/proxy/binaries/commons-proxy-1.0.zip
> ./commons/primitives/binaries/commons-primitives-1.0.tar.gz
> ./commons/primitives/binaries/commons-primitives-1.0.zip
> ./commons/jexl/binaries/commons-jexl-1.1.tar.gz
> ./commons/jexl/binaries/commons-jexl-1.1.zip
> ./commons/attributes/binaries/commons-attributes-2.2.tar.gz
> ./commons/attributes/binaries/commons-attributes-2.2.zip
> ./commons/bsf/binaries/bsf-bin-2.4.0.tar.gz
> ./commons/bsf/binaries/bsf-bin-2.4.0.zip
> ./commons/bsf/source/bsf-src-2.4.0.tar.gz
> ./commons/bsf/source/bsf-src-2.4.0.zip
> ./commons/el/binaries/commons-el-1.0.zip
> ./commons/el/binaries/commons-el-1.0.tar.gz
> ./commons/vfs/binaries/commons-vfs-2.0.tar.gz
> ./commons/vfs/binaries/commons-vfs-2.0.zip
> ./commons/betwixt/binaries/commons-betwixt-0.8.zip
> ./commons/betwixt/binaries/commons-betwixt-0.8.tar.gz
> ./commons/bcel/binaries/bcel-5.2.tar.gz
> ./commons/bcel/binaries/bcel-5.2.zip
> ./commons/daemon/binaries/commons-daemon-1.0.15.jar
> ./commons/daemon/binaries/windows/commons-daemon-1.0.15-bin-windows.zip
> ./commons/daemon/binaries/windows/commons-daemon-1.0.15-bin-windows-signed.zip
> ./commons/jelly/binaries/commons-jelly-1.0.zip
> ./commons/jelly/binaries/commons-jelly-1.0.tar.gz
> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1.tar.gz
> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1-example.tar.gz
> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1.zip
> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1-example.zip
> ./commons/transaction/binaries/commons-transaction-1.2.zip
> ./commons/transaction/binaries/commons-transaction-1.2.tar.gz
> ./commons/modeler/binaries/commons-modeler-2.0.1.tar.gz
> ./commons/modeler/binaries/commons-modeler-2.0.1.zip
> ./commons/sanselan/binaries/apache-sanselan-incubating-0.97-bin.tar.bz2
> ./commons/sanselan/source/apache-sanselan-incubating-0.97-src.tar.bz2
> ./commons/math/binaries/commons-math-2.2.tar.gz
> ./commons/math/binaries/commons-math-2.2.zip
> ./commons/net/binaries/commons-net-1.4.1.tar.gz
> ./commons/net/binaries/commons-net-1.4.1.zip
> ./commons/jcs/binaries/jcs-1.3.tar.gz
> ./commons/jcs/binaries/jcs-1.3.zip

We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
manually made releases.



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Re: [ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
On Mon, Apr 18, 2016 at 3:28 PM, sebb <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

> On 18 April 2016 at 22:27, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Well, if we move to the new layout without binaries/ and sources/
> > subfolders, (see other thread), then the filenames should include -src
> and
> > -bin so it is obvious which is which.
>
> It's still possible to tell them apart; only the source has -src in it.
>
> But I agree it's clearer if the binaries include -bin.
>

+1

Gary


>
> That will be the case unless someone defines appendAssemblyId=false in
> assembly/bin.xml
>
> > In most (modern) cases such dist files are made by the assembly plugin
> from
> > Maven, in which case that config needs to be fixed if it generates the
> > "wrong" filename, ready for the next release.
> >
> > I am not suggesting a new release of say bsf just to fix the generated
> > filename :)
>
> AFAIK, there is no need.
>
> It seems the missing -bin suffixes are a hangover from Maven 1.
> The default is to append -bin now (this is defined in Commons Parent);
> it's only necessary to override the suffix for some of the older
> releases.
>
> > On 18 Apr 2016 10:01 p.m., "Jörg Schaible" <jo...@gmx.de>
> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Stian,
> >>
> >> Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
> >>
> >> > These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:
> >> >
> >> > On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >> >> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/
> mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
> >> >> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
> >> >> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
> >> >>
> >>
> >> [snip]
> >>
> >> >
> >> > We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
> >> > manually made releases.
> >>
> >> These are the official commons releases, they have nothing to do with
> Maven
> >> repositories. POMs are completely unrelated.
> >>
> >> - Jörg
> >>
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
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Re: [ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 20 April 2016 at 09:27, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> OK, so I get that the feeling is that we can copy the existing releases to
> a new folder structure, but can keep the original filenames - even when
> there is no -bin suffix for the binary (as there is an equivalent -src
> archive).

Wrong thread.

This one is about missing -bin suffixes, not folder structure.

> That way there will also be less confusion if the artifacts are the same or
> not for those older versions and don't affect the .asc signatures.
>

I think it will be more confusing but that is for a separate thread.

> On 18 Apr 2016 11:28 p.m., "sebb" <se...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On 18 April 2016 at 22:27, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Well, if we move to the new layout without binaries/ and sources/
>> subfolders, (see other thread), then the filenames should include -src and
>> -bin so it is obvious which is which.
>
> It's still possible to tell them apart; only the source has -src in it.
>
> But I agree it's clearer if the binaries include -bin.
>
> That will be the case unless someone defines appendAssemblyId=false in
> assembly/bin.xml
>
>> In most (modern) cases such dist files are made by the assembly plugin
> from
>> Maven, in which case that config needs to be fixed if it generates the
>> "wrong" filename, ready for the next release.
>>
>> I am not suggesting a new release of say bsf just to fix the generated
>> filename :)
>
> AFAIK, there is no need.
>
> It seems the missing -bin suffixes are a hangover from Maven 1.
> The default is to append -bin now (this is defined in Commons Parent);
> it's only necessary to override the suffix for some of the older
> releases.
>
>> On 18 Apr 2016 10:01 p.m., "Jörg Schaible" <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi Stian,
>>>
>>> Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>>
>>> > These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:
>>> >
>>> > On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
> wrote:
>>> >> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/
> mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
>>> >> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
>>> >> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
>>> >>
>>>
>>> [snip]
>>>
>>> >
>>> > We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
>>> > manually made releases.
>>>
>>> These are the official commons releases, they have nothing to do with
> Maven
>>> repositories. POMs are completely unrelated.
>>>
>>> - Jörg
>>>
>>>
>>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>>
>>>
>
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Re: [ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
OK, so I get that the feeling is that we can copy the existing releases to
a new folder structure, but can keep the original filenames - even when
there is no -bin suffix for the binary (as there is an equivalent -src
archive).

That way there will also be less confusion if the artifacts are the same or
not for those older versions and don't affect the .asc signatures.
On 18 Apr 2016 11:28 p.m., "sebb" <se...@gmail.com> wrote:

On 18 April 2016 at 22:27, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> Well, if we move to the new layout without binaries/ and sources/
> subfolders, (see other thread), then the filenames should include -src and
> -bin so it is obvious which is which.

It's still possible to tell them apart; only the source has -src in it.

But I agree it's clearer if the binaries include -bin.

That will be the case unless someone defines appendAssemblyId=false in
assembly/bin.xml

> In most (modern) cases such dist files are made by the assembly plugin
from
> Maven, in which case that config needs to be fixed if it generates the
> "wrong" filename, ready for the next release.
>
> I am not suggesting a new release of say bsf just to fix the generated
> filename :)

AFAIK, there is no need.

It seems the missing -bin suffixes are a hangover from Maven 1.
The default is to append -bin now (this is defined in Commons Parent);
it's only necessary to override the suffix for some of the older
releases.

> On 18 Apr 2016 10:01 p.m., "Jörg Schaible" <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stian,
>>
>> Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>
>> > These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:
>> >
>> > On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>
wrote:
>> >> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/
mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
>> >> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
>> >> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
>> >>
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >
>> > We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
>> > manually made releases.
>>
>> These are the official commons releases, they have nothing to do with
Maven
>> repositories. POMs are completely unrelated.
>>
>> - Jörg
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
>> For additional commands, e-mail: dev-help@commons.apache.org
>>
>>

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Re: [ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 18 April 2016 at 22:27, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> Well, if we move to the new layout without binaries/ and sources/
> subfolders, (see other thread), then the filenames should include -src and
> -bin so it is obvious which is which.

It's still possible to tell them apart; only the source has -src in it.

But I agree it's clearer if the binaries include -bin.

That will be the case unless someone defines appendAssemblyId=false in
assembly/bin.xml

> In most (modern) cases such dist files are made by the assembly plugin from
> Maven, in which case that config needs to be fixed if it generates the
> "wrong" filename, ready for the next release.
>
> I am not suggesting a new release of say bsf just to fix the generated
> filename :)

AFAIK, there is no need.

It seems the missing -bin suffixes are a hangover from Maven 1.
The default is to append -bin now (this is defined in Commons Parent);
it's only necessary to override the suffix for some of the older
releases.

> On 18 Apr 2016 10:01 p.m., "Jörg Schaible" <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:
>
>> Hi Stian,
>>
>> Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>>
>> > These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:
>> >
>> > On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
>> >> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
>> >> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
>> >>
>>
>> [snip]
>>
>> >
>> > We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
>> > manually made releases.
>>
>> These are the official commons releases, they have nothing to do with Maven
>> repositories. POMs are completely unrelated.
>>
>> - Jörg
>>
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
>> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
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>>
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Re: [ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

Posted by Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org>.
Well, if we move to the new layout without binaries/ and sources/
subfolders, (see other thread), then the filenames should include -src and
-bin so it is obvious which is which.

In most (modern) cases such dist files are made by the assembly plugin from
Maven, in which case that config needs to be fixed if it generates the
"wrong" filename, ready for the next release.

I am not suggesting a new release of say bsf just to fix the generated
filename :)
On 18 Apr 2016 10:01 p.m., "Jörg Schaible" <jo...@gmx.de> wrote:

> Hi Stian,
>
> Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:
>
> > These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:
> >
> > On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
> >> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
> >> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
> >>
>
> [snip]
>
> >
> > We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
> > manually made releases.
>
> These are the official commons releases, they have nothing to do with Maven
> repositories. POMs are completely unrelated.
>
> - Jörg
>
>
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> To unsubscribe, e-mail: dev-unsubscribe@commons.apache.org
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>

Re: [ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

Posted by Jörg Schaible <jo...@gmx.de>.
Hi Stian,

Stian Soiland-Reyes wrote:

> These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:
> 
> On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
>> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
>> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
>> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
>>

[snip]

> 
> We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
> manually made releases.

These are the official commons releases, they have nothing to do with Maven 
repositories. POMs are completely unrelated.

- Jörg


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Re: [ALL] Missing -bin suffixes for some modules in dist.apache.org

Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 18 April 2016 at 13:31, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
> These downloads lack -bin / -src suffixes:
>
> On 18 April 2016 at 10:43, Stian Soiland-Reyes <st...@apache.org> wrote:
>> stain@biggie:~/Downloads/912/mirrors.ukfast.co.uk/sites/ftp.apache.org$
>> find . -type f | grep -v txt  | grep -v -- -src.tar.gz | grep -v --
>> -src.zip | grep -v -- -bin.zip | grep -v -- -bin.tar.gz
>>
>> ./commons/proxy/binaries/commons-proxy-1.0.tar.gz
>> ./commons/proxy/binaries/commons-proxy-1.0.zip
>> ./commons/primitives/binaries/commons-primitives-1.0.tar.gz
>> ./commons/primitives/binaries/commons-primitives-1.0.zip
>> ./commons/jexl/binaries/commons-jexl-1.1.tar.gz
>> ./commons/jexl/binaries/commons-jexl-1.1.zip
>> ./commons/attributes/binaries/commons-attributes-2.2.tar.gz
>> ./commons/attributes/binaries/commons-attributes-2.2.zip
>> ./commons/bsf/binaries/bsf-bin-2.4.0.tar.gz
>> ./commons/bsf/binaries/bsf-bin-2.4.0.zip
>> ./commons/bsf/source/bsf-src-2.4.0.tar.gz
>> ./commons/bsf/source/bsf-src-2.4.0.zip

The BSF ones look rather odd, but are very old and AFAIK there won't
be another release.

>> ./commons/el/binaries/commons-el-1.0.zip
>> ./commons/el/binaries/commons-el-1.0.tar.gz
>> ./commons/vfs/binaries/commons-vfs-2.0.tar.gz
>> ./commons/vfs/binaries/commons-vfs-2.0.zip
>> ./commons/betwixt/binaries/commons-betwixt-0.8.zip
>> ./commons/betwixt/binaries/commons-betwixt-0.8.tar.gz
>> ./commons/bcel/binaries/bcel-5.2.tar.gz
>> ./commons/bcel/binaries/bcel-5.2.zip
>> ./commons/daemon/binaries/commons-daemon-1.0.15.jar
>> ./commons/daemon/binaries/windows/commons-daemon-1.0.15-bin-windows.zip
>> ./commons/daemon/binaries/windows/commons-daemon-1.0.15-bin-windows-signed.zip

The above are OK (not sure why the jar is there but the name is correct).

>> ./commons/jelly/binaries/commons-jelly-1.0.zip
>> ./commons/jelly/binaries/commons-jelly-1.0.tar.gz
>> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1.tar.gz
>> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1-example.tar.gz
>> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1.zip
>> ./commons/launcher/binaries/commons-launcher-1.1-example.zip
>> ./commons/transaction/binaries/commons-transaction-1.2.zip
>> ./commons/transaction/binaries/commons-transaction-1.2.tar.gz
>> ./commons/modeler/binaries/commons-modeler-2.0.1.tar.gz
>> ./commons/modeler/binaries/commons-modeler-2.0.1.zip
>> ./commons/sanselan/binaries/apache-sanselan-incubating-0.97-bin.tar.bz2
>> ./commons/sanselan/source/apache-sanselan-incubating-0.97-src.tar.bz2

The above are OK, however the script failed to allow for bz2 compression.
Not sure there's any point using bz2 here.

>> ./commons/math/binaries/commons-math-2.2.tar.gz
>> ./commons/math/binaries/commons-math-2.2.zip
>> ./commons/net/binaries/commons-net-1.4.1.tar.gz
>> ./commons/net/binaries/commons-net-1.4.1.zip
>> ./commons/jcs/binaries/jcs-1.3.tar.gz
>> ./commons/jcs/binaries/jcs-1.3.zip
>
> We need to check if this their POMs need updating or if this is mainly
> manually made releases.

Most of them are older releases.

>
>
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