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Posted to batik-dev@xmlgraphics.apache.org by Elliotte Rusty Harold <el...@metalab.unc.edu> on 2003/06/18 13:55:37 UTC
TCK license fees are prohibitive
The only work in SVG APIs for Java that I'm aware of to date have
taken place as part of the open source Apache XML Project,
particularly Batik <http://xml.apache.org/batik/>
I am concerned that the licensing fees proposed for the TCK with JSR
226, Scalable 2D Vector Graphics API for J2ME ($50,000 initial
payment + $20,000 per year) will prevent open source implementations.
At these levels Sun's $1,000,000 per year scholarship program that
must cover all open source implementations of all payware TCKs is not
an adequate replacement for a free-beer TCK. If this price cannot be
substantially reduced or ideally eliminated, then this JSR should be
rejected.
--
Elliotte Rusty Harold
elharo@metalab.unc.edu
Processing XML with Java (Addison-Wesley, 2002)
http://www.cafeconleche.org/books/xmljava
http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN%3D0201771861/cafeaulaitA
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Re: TCK license fees are prohibitive
Posted by Onno Kluyt <On...@Sun.COM>.
There is still plenty room in that budget.
Onno Kluyt
Director, JCP Program Office.
On Wednesday, Jun 18, 2003, at 08:55 US/Pacific, Dirk-Willem van Gulik
wrote:
>
>
> On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
>
>> The only work in SVG APIs for Java that I'm aware of to date have
>> taken place as part of the open source Apache XML Project,
>> particularly Batik <http://xml.apache.org/batik/>
>>
>> I am concerned that the licensing fees proposed for the TCK with JSR
>> 226, Scalable 2D Vector Graphics API for J2ME ($50,000 initial
>> payment + $20,000 per year) will prevent open source implementations.
>> At these levels Sun's $1,000,000 per year scholarship program that
>> must cover all open source implementations of all payware TCKs is not
>> an adequate replacement for a free-beer TCK. If this price cannot be
>> substantially reduced or ideally eliminated, then this JSR should be
>> rejected.
>
> It may be worthwhile to check as to how much of that 1m$ is actually
> allocated for this year. I suspect that there enough of such left not
> to
> worry too much right now. And what better tribute would there be to
> java,
> SUN and its commitment to openness if that amounth got a) depleted each
> year and b) subsequentely increased (or these arbitrary fees
> questioned and decreased).
>
> Dw
>
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Re: TCK license fees are prohibitive
Posted by Dirk-Willem van Gulik <di...@webweaving.org>.
On Wed, 18 Jun 2003, Elliotte Rusty Harold wrote:
> The only work in SVG APIs for Java that I'm aware of to date have
> taken place as part of the open source Apache XML Project,
> particularly Batik <http://xml.apache.org/batik/>
>
> I am concerned that the licensing fees proposed for the TCK with JSR
> 226, Scalable 2D Vector Graphics API for J2ME ($50,000 initial
> payment + $20,000 per year) will prevent open source implementations.
> At these levels Sun's $1,000,000 per year scholarship program that
> must cover all open source implementations of all payware TCKs is not
> an adequate replacement for a free-beer TCK. If this price cannot be
> substantially reduced or ideally eliminated, then this JSR should be
> rejected.
It may be worthwhile to check as to how much of that 1m$ is actually
allocated for this year. I suspect that there enough of such left not to
worry too much right now. And what better tribute would there be to java,
SUN and its commitment to openness if that amounth got a) depleted each
year and b) subsequentely increased (or these arbitrary fees
questioned and decreased).
Dw
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