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Wondering about tomcat-users.xml could not be found

I'm running tomcat9 under Ubuntu 22.04 with an haproxy 2.8 in front of it.

I'm wondering about the following in the logs:

Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
                                                                                                          


File /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml is definitely there. 

It occurs every 10 seconds.

Don't know who is causing this and why. Permissions? Ownership wrong?

-rw-r----- 1 root root   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml

Believe the ownership was wrong. Maybe it came from migrating an old installation.

What are the correct perms/ownership in /var/lib/tomcat9 and below?

--
Christoph




Re: Wondering about tomcat-users.xml could not be found

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Peter,

On 11/16/23 14:19, logo@kreuser.name wrote:
> Hi Chris*,
> 
> 
>> Am 16.11.2023 um 20:12 schrieb Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
>>
>> Christoph,
>>
>> On 11/15/23 10:32, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>>> I'm running tomcat9 under Ubuntu 22.04 with an haproxy 2.8 in front of it.
>>> I'm wondering about the following in the logs:
>>> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> File /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml is definitely there.
>>> It occurs every 10 seconds.
>>> Don't know who is causing this and why. Permissions? Ownership wrong?
>>> -rw-r----- 1 root root   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml
>>> Believe the ownership was wrong. Maybe it came from migrating an old installation.
>>> What are the correct perms/ownership in /var/lib/tomcat9 and below?
>>
>> What is the user-owner of the JVM process?
>>
>> Check that all of the above would be both readable and executable by that user:
>>
>> ls -ld /var
>> ls -ld /var/lib
>> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9
>> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9/conf
>>
>> ... and of course that the JVM user can read /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml which I assume is true since you said you already checked it.
>>
>> What is the cwd of the JVM process?
>>
>> The first message ("reloading") has the full path, and the second message ("file not found") only mentions a relative path. I wonder if that is the difference.
>>
> 
> 
> Could it be that the second path relates to a missing env-Variable $CATALINA_BASE or $CATALINA_HOME?

Unlikely. Tomcat always determines the values for catalina.home and 
catalina.base before launching the JVM. After that, only those system 
properties are consulted.

But it's possible there is some sloppy code somewhere that is using 
cwd-relative paths.

-chris

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Re: Wondering about tomcat-users.xml could not be found

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Christoph,

On 11/17/23 03:55, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>>> Am 16.11.2023 um 20:12 schrieb Christopher Schultz 
>>>
>>> What is the user-owner of the JVM process?
> 
> root      125216  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        I    09:42   0:00 
> [kworker/0:0-events]
> root      125221  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        I    09:42   0:00 
> [kworker/0:2]
> tomcat    125222  166  9.2 3551824 363244 ?      Ssl  09:42   0:16 
> /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/bin/java 
> -Djava.util.logging.config.file=/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/logging.properties 
> -Djava.util.logging.mana
> root      125246  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        I    09:42   0:00 
> [kworker/u4:2-flush-8:0]

Ugh. I *really* hope this is Docker. Add even if it is, /stop running 
Tomcat as root/.

>>> Check that all of the above would be both readable and executable by 
>>> that user:
>>>
>>> ls -ld /var
>>> ls -ld /var/lib
>>> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9
>>> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9/conf
> 
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /var
> drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Oct 23 16:31 */var*
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /var/lib
> drwxr-xr-x 63 root root 4096 Nov 10 10:28 */var/lib*
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld 
> /var/lib/tomcat9
> drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Nov 17 09:42 */var/lib/tomcat9*
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld 
> /var/lib/tomcat9/conf
> lrwxrwxrwx 1 tomcat tomcat 12 Sep 11  2019 */var/lib/tomcat9/conf*-> 
> */etc/tomcat9*
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /etc/tomcat9
> drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Nov 16 12:17 */etc/tomcat9*
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config#

Permissions look good, even if the process-owner isn't root.

>>> ... and of course that the JVM user can read 
>>> /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml which I assume is true since 
>>> you said you already checked it.
>>>
>>> What is the cwd of the JVM process?
>>>
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# pwdx 125222
> 125222: /var/lib/tomcat9

TIL: pwdx is a thing

Okay, so that all checks out. cwd is /var/lib/tomcat9 and the "allegedly 
relative path" is conf/tomcat-users.xml, which points to where the file 
actually lives on the disk.

>>> The first message ("reloading") has the full path, and the second 
>>> message ("file not found") only mentions a relative path. I wonder if 
>>> that is the difference.
>>>
>>
>>
>> Could it be that the second path relates to a missing env-Variable 
>> $CATALINA_BASE or $CATALINA_HOME?
>>
> root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# cat 
> /proc/125222/environ | tr '\0' '\n'
> USER=tomcat
> HOME=/var/lib/tomcat
> CATALINA_HOME=/usr/share/tomcat9
> CATALINA_TMPDIR=/tmp
> JAVA_OPTS=-Djava.awt.headless=true -Djdk.tls.ephemeralDHKeySize=2048 
> -Djava.protocol.handler.pkgs=org.apache.catalina.webresources 
> -Dorg.apache.catalina.security.SecurityListener.UMASK=0027
> PWD=/var/lib/tomcat9
> JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java
 > CATALINA_BASE=/var/lib/tomcat9

Well, that all checks out. USER looks weird, but I'm assuming there's a 
"sudo java ..." somewhere in the launch command.

> It seems the situation is straightened out since I changed the ownership 
> of the file tomcat-users.xml
> -rw-r----- 1 tomcat tomcat   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml

So... who is the owner, now? If the process is really running as "root" 
then it should be able to read even file on the filesystem.

-chris

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Re: Wondering about tomcat-users.xml could not be found

Posted by Christoph Kukulies <ku...@kukulies.org.INVALID>.


> Am 16.11.2023 um 20:19 schrieb logo@kreuser.name:
> 
> Hi Chris*,
> 
> 
>> Am 16.11.2023 um 20:12 schrieb Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
>> 
>> Christoph,
>> 
>> On 11/15/23 10:32, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>>> I'm running tomcat9 under Ubuntu 22.04 with an haproxy 2.8 in front of it.
>>> I'm wondering about the following in the logs:
>>> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>>> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>>> File /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml is definitely there.
>>> It occurs every 10 seconds.
>>> Don't know who is causing this and why. Permissions? Ownership wrong?
>>> -rw-r----- 1 root root   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml
>>> Believe the ownership was wrong. Maybe it came from migrating an old installation.
>>> What are the correct perms/ownership in /var/lib/tomcat9 and below?
>> 
>> What is the user-owner of the JVM process?


root      125216  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        I    09:42   0:00 [kworker/0:0-events]
root      125221  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        I    09:42   0:00 [kworker/0:2]
tomcat    125222  166  9.2 3551824 363244 ?      Ssl  09:42   0:16 /usr/lib/jvm/default-java/bin/java -Djava.util.logging.config.file=/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/logging.properties -Djava.util.logging.mana
root      125246  0.0  0.0      0     0 ?        I    09:42   0:00 [kworker/u4:2-flush-8:0]


>> 
>> Check that all of the above would be both readable and executable by that user:
>> 
>> ls -ld /var
>> ls -ld /var/lib
>> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9
>> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9/conf

root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /var
drwxr-xr-x 15 root root 4096 Oct 23 16:31 /var
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /var/lib
drwxr-xr-x 63 root root 4096 Nov 10 10:28 /var/lib
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9
drwxr-xr-x 6 root root 4096 Nov 17 09:42 /var/lib/tomcat9
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9/conf
lrwxrwxrwx 1 tomcat tomcat 12 Sep 11  2019 /var/lib/tomcat9/conf -> /etc/tomcat9
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# ls -ld /etc/tomcat9
drwxr-xr-x 4 root root 4096 Nov 16 12:17 /etc/tomcat9
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# 

>> 
>> ... and of course that the JVM user can read /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml which I assume is true since you said you already checked it.
>> 
>> What is the cwd of the JVM process?
>> 
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# pwdx 125222
125222: /var/lib/tomcat9

>> The first message ("reloading") has the full path, and the second message ("file not found") only mentions a relative path. I wonder if that is the difference.
>> 
> 
> 
> Could it be that the second path relates to a missing env-Variable $CATALINA_BASE or $CATALINA_HOME?
> 
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# cat /proc/125222/environ | tr '\0' '\n'
USER=tomcat
HOME=/var/lib/tomcat
OLDPWD=/
CATALINA_HOME=/usr/share/tomcat9
SYSTEMD_EXEC_PID=125222
LOGNAME=tomcat
JOURNAL_STREAM=8:1778827
CACHE_DIRECTORY=/var/cache/tomcat9
JDK_JAVA_OPTIONS= --add-opens=java.base/java.lang=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.io=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.util=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.base/java.util.concurrent=ALL-UNNAMED --add-opens=java.rmi/sun.rmi.transport=ALL-UNNAMED
CATALINA_TMPDIR=/tmp
PATH=/usr/local/sbin:/usr/local/bin:/usr/sbin:/usr/bin:/sbin:/bin:/snap/bin
INVOCATION_ID=84b60xxxxxxxxxxxa420e09ed
JAVA_OPTS=-Djava.awt.headless=true -Djdk.tls.ephemeralDHKeySize=2048 -Djava.protocol.handler.pkgs=org.apache.catalina.webresources -Dorg.apache.catalina.security.SecurityListener.UMASK=0027
LANG=en_US.UTF-8
PWD=/var/lib/tomcat9
JAVA_HOME=/usr/lib/jvm/default-java
CATALINA_BASE=/var/lib/tomcat9
root@mail:/var/lib/tomcat9/webapps/ROOT/WEB-INF/config# 
> Peter

It seems the situation is straightened out since I changed the ownership of the file tomcat-users.xml
-rw-r----- 1 tomcat tomcat   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml

Thanks for helping.

--
Christoph

> 
>> -chris
>> 


Re: Wondering about tomcat-users.xml could not be found

Posted by lo...@kreuser.name.
Hi Chris*,


> Am 16.11.2023 um 20:12 schrieb Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
> 
> Christoph,
> 
> On 11/15/23 10:32, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
>> I'm running tomcat9 under Ubuntu 22.04 with an haproxy 2.8 in front of it.
>> I'm wondering about the following in the logs:
>> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database [UserDatabase] from updated source [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
>> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>> File /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml is definitely there.
>> It occurs every 10 seconds.
>> Don't know who is causing this and why. Permissions? Ownership wrong?
>> -rw-r----- 1 root root   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml
>> Believe the ownership was wrong. Maybe it came from migrating an old installation.
>> What are the correct perms/ownership in /var/lib/tomcat9 and below?
> 
> What is the user-owner of the JVM process?
> 
> Check that all of the above would be both readable and executable by that user:
> 
> ls -ld /var
> ls -ld /var/lib
> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9
> ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9/conf
> 
> ... and of course that the JVM user can read /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml which I assume is true since you said you already checked it.
> 
> What is the cwd of the JVM process?
> 
> The first message ("reloading") has the full path, and the second message ("file not found") only mentions a relative path. I wonder if that is the difference.
> 


Could it be that the second path relates to a missing env-Variable $CATALINA_BASE or $CATALINA_HOME?

Peter

> -chris
> 
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Re: Wondering about tomcat-users.xml could not be found

Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Christoph,

On 11/15/23 10:32, Christoph Kukulies wrote:
> I'm running tomcat9 under Ubuntu 22.04 with an haproxy 2.8 in front of it.
> 
> I'm wondering about the following in the logs:
> 
> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database 
> [UserDatabase] from updated source 
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database 
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database 
> [UserDatabase] from updated source 
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database 
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database 
> [UserDatabase] from updated source 
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database 
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database 
> [UserDatabase] from updated source 
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database 
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
> 
> 
> 
> File /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml is definitely there.
> 
> It occurs every 10 seconds.
> 
> Don't know who is causing this and why. Permissions? Ownership wrong?
> 
> -rw-r----- 1 root root   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml
> 
> Believe the ownership was wrong. Maybe it came from migrating an old 
> installation.
> 
> What are the correct perms/ownership in /var/lib/tomcat9 and below?

What is the user-owner of the JVM process?

Check that all of the above would be both readable and executable by 
that user:

  ls -ld /var
  ls -ld /var/lib
  ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9
  ls -ld /var/lib/tomcat9/conf

... and of course that the JVM user can read 
/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml which I assume is true since you 
said you already checked it.

What is the cwd of the JVM process?

The first message ("reloading") has the full path, and the second 
message ("file not found") only mentions a relative path. I wonder if 
that is the difference.

-chris

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Re: Wondering about tomcat-users.xml could not be found

Posted by Simon Matter <si...@invoca.ch>.
Hi,

> I'm running tomcat9 under Ubuntu 22.04 with an haproxy 2.8 in front of it.
>
> I'm wondering about the following in the logs:
>
> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database
> [UserDatabase] from updated source
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:23 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database
> [UserDatabase] from updated source
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:33 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database
> [UserDatabase] from updated source
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:43 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: Reloading memory user database
> [UserDatabase] from updated source
> [file:/var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml]
> Nov 15 16:19:53 mail tomcat9[832]: The specified user database
> [conf/tomcat-users.xml] could not be found
>
>
>
> File /var/lib/tomcat9/conf/tomcat-users.xml is definitely there.
>
> It occurs every 10 seconds.
>
> Don't know who is causing this and why. Permissions? Ownership wrong?
>
> -rw-r----- 1 root root   2756 Jan 15  2022 tomcat-users.xml

Is your Tomcat running as root? I hope not, but if it's running as user
tomcat or some other unprivileged user, it won't be able to read your
tomcat-users.xml as long as the user is not member of group root.

Regards,
Simon


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