Re: [Proposal] Apache Local Community - how to list yourself

[Swapnil M Mane <sw...@apache.org>]

Thank you, Dmitriy for your comments.
Please see my response inline.

On Sat, Jun 29, 2019 at 4:38 PM Dmitriy Pavlov <dp...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi All,
>
> I appreciate this action started.
>
> My experience related to FOAF files:
> I didn't know about local mentors and FOAF until I visited community
> development web site. I've tried to add, but that time it didn't work, so I
> gave up.
>
> +1 for asking people at Apache Con and
> +1 for sending some announce to committers@ to remind people about
> existence. I definitely going to try one more time.
>
> In my local area (Russia, Saint-Petersburg, and Moscow) I guess we don't
> have too many committers, so I'm not absolutely sure that monthly meetups
> could be possible. FOAF for Saint-Petersburg shows 2 committers.
>

Just to avoid any confusion, ALC is not about the committers monthly meetup.
ALC is a local group of Apache enthusiast (It is not mandatory to have
committers to form an ALC chapter, if they are present, it will be helpful
for that ALC chapter).

Following is the role of ALC
-- Spread the awareness on Apache in the local community.
-- Share the details about ASF, The Apache Way, and various Apache's
projects in local students, developers, and the business community.
-- Bring together project users and developers
-- Host various events for local open source lovers (at least should have
one monthly event, based on activeness on volunteers the frequency of
events can be increased).
In this event, ALC will spread the awareness of all the aspects of Apache,
also can have technical sessions on various Apache Projects (basically can
do anything to support 3 points mentioned above).

Apart from this one more advantage of this event will be, it will provide
the platform for committers from different projects (living in
the same town/city) to meet and exchange knowledge, thoughts, and ideas.
So, committers meetup is the *by-product* of the event organized by ALC :)


>
> Time to time I speak about How Open Source works and about The Apache Way
> in local meetups and conferences, for example here we have ~ 900 people:
>

Super, your presence in the ALC will be very helpful.


> https://www.meetup.com/Moscow-Apache-Ignite-Meetup/  But usually, only
> 30-60 came in person to meet up (users+committers+PMC). I saw other meetups
> related to Apache Cassandra.
>
> I definitely would be happy to come to Apache related event and could help
> to organize some in Russia.
>

Awesome, thanks so much for the interest.
Soon, I will start working on documenting all this information, which will
help us in proceeding further and bring the ALC in action.

P.S. Just a thought, let's not hijack this mail thread initiated by Shane
on 'how to list yourself', if you have any more query or thoughts on ALC,
we can continue our discussion about ALC on this thread [1] with subject
line '[Proposal] Apache Local Community' :)

[1]
https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/f81b62534a04336e8896b2e3fa521e85a339cd024e8a3cafffcdfe61@%3Cdev.community.apache.org%3E

Best Regards,
Swapnil M Mane


> Sincerely,
> Dmitriy Pavlov
>
> чт, 27 июн. 2019 г. в 17:16, Swapnil M Mane <sw...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Glad to hear from you Shane, thanks so much for your comments :)
> >
> > I also feel the same, we need some more publicity for this.
> > We can share these details on committers@apache.org list (so in case if
> > any
> > committer is unaware of it, they will get to know).
> >
> > Apart from this, I also feel we can smooth the process of registering in
> > Committers map, here are some initial thoughts. I am not sure about the
> > feasibility of these items for us.
> >
> > -- At the time of onboarding new committer in ASF, we can ask do they
> want
> > to register themselves in committer map, if yes, we can get required
> > details (lat/long, etc) from them and generate and commit FOAF file by
> > ourselves. So no action will be required by the Committer.
> >
> > -- The current process involved two steps
> > 1. Create a FOAF file [1].
> > 2. Commit the FOAF file to committers SVN repo.
> > Can we simplify this process, we can create a simple form with details
> like
> > the first name, last name, lat/long, etc (all the details we asked in the
> > form available here [1]).
> > As the Committer submit this form, automatically behind the scene FOAF
> file
> > will be created and committed to SVN repo.
> > We can make sure this form is accessible to only committers.
> >
> > [1] https://home.apache.org/foaf/foafamatic.html
> >
> > Best Regards,
> > Swapnil M Mane
> >
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 27, 2019 at 6:20 PM Shane Curcuru <as...@shanecurcuru.org>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Great ideas all!
> > >
> > > Swapnil M Mane wrote on 2019-6-27 8:34AM EDT:
> > > ...snip...
> > > > The nearby Apache people can be found here [1], and Apache Committers
> > map
> > > > [2] can also help, but I think, it is not up to date.
> > > >
> > > > Hope these details will help you, I am excited to work together :)
> > > >
> > > > [1] http://community.zones.apache.org/
> > > > [2] http://community.zones.apache.org/map.html
> > >
> > > The Committers map definitely works, however it relies on individual
> > > committers voluntarily listing a location for themselves - the ASF does
> > > not otherwise give out private data about committers.  It also hasn't
> > > been well-publicised recently, so I think a lot of committers don't
> even
> > > know about it.  Ideas on 1) how to improve it and 2) how to get other
> > > committers in your project(s) to think about listing themselves are
> > > appreciated.
> > >
> > > To list yourself on the map, put a location in a FOAF file and point to
> > > it from the committers SVN repo:
> > >
> > >   https://home.apache.org/foaf/index.html
> > >
> > > If anyone has improvements to the ComDev website or the Phone
> > > Book/home.apache.org, you can see the website sources to patch:
> > >
> > >   http://community.apache.org/about/#about-this-website
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > - Shane
> > >   ComDev PMC
> > >   The Apache Software Foundation
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