Showing score in outlook column

[Chris Hale <ch...@nwscan.net>]

I think I've exhausted my search on Google and the archives for this list.

I have an ISP that does SpamAssassin for my email, which then I download via
POP3.

I use Outlook 2000, which I know can filter the emails too other folders,
etc, based on the SA headers.

What I would like to be able too do, is see the score in it's own separate
column (preferable that could be sorted by).  

Does anybody have a COM add-in or VBScript to do this?

I get about 200 pieces of spam a day, and I hate the idea of not searching
through the spam folder for potential false-negatives, but I also hate
searching through that many emails (especially if I don't do it for a couple
days).

My feeling is that this "chore" would not be so bad, if I had a visual clue
as too what SA thought about the email.  Sort it from lowest to highest, so
therefore, more likely any false-negatives comes near the front.

Sorry if this has already been brought up.  Hard to search on such common
words as outlook, spamassassin, score....

Thanks, Chris Hale

Re: Showing score in outlook column

[Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>]

> I use Outlook 2000, which I know can filter the emails too other folders,
> etc, based on the SA headers.
>
> What I would like to be able too do, is see the score in it's own separate
> column (preferable that could be sorted by).
>
> Does anybody have a COM add-in or VBScript to do this?

If you have any ability to modify the SA setup at the host (as in: can ask
them to set up your own user_prefs) then about two lines will do essentially
what you want.

For SA 2.64, I use this to get the score of anything classified spam onto
the front of the spams.  It doesn't mangle the header for non-spam.  A
slight change in syntax will also make this work for 3.0.

    rewrite_subject         1
    subject_tag             [SPAM]_HITS_

Not a separate column, but sortable.  And for OE (which is what I have here)
is about all you can do.

        Loren

Re: Showing score in outlook column

[Loren Wilton <lw...@earthlink.net>]

> Knowing the SPAMassassin score might not help ... why do you expect to
find any
> correlation bwetween score and either false positives and false
negativews?
>
> I have some messages from the SPAMassassin lists that got analyzed
> (somehow, my whitelist settings got ignored sometimes) -- and of those
> (28 messages out of ~1600) some got scores as high as 13.9 ... OTOH I
> have seen unflagged SPAM with scores as low as 2~3.
>
> Try this ... sort by subject and eyeball through the list
> Sort by sender and eyeball through the list

Good suggestions.  I used to do this before I started sticking the score on
the front of the spam subject line, allowing me to sort (roughly) by score.
It turns out that while you are quite right, there can be ringers at just
about any score, and FPs (for me) at around 13 are not all that unusual (I'm
rather liberal in my scoring), the FPs do for the most part hit in the lower
scores.

The rare "real" mail that makes into FP-land typically will score around 7.
Most of that will be do to me scoring anything from rr.com with 3 points to
start with, since a vast amount of my spam and very little ham comes from
RoadRuiner.

The scores around 13 tend to be ads and commercial mailing lists that I
didn't actually sign up for, but the submitters figured that "prior business
relationship" was sufficient reason to send them to me.  (Arguably these
actually are spam; but I know the company is legit enough to honor an
unsubscribe should I send it - and when they originally stuck me on these
lists promenantly sent me a thing saying they were doing it, and if I didn't
like it, here was the "no" button.  I actually read these fairly often,
which is the main reason I haven't unsubscribed.  OTOH, I'm insufficiently
motivated to whitelist them.)

        Loren

Re: Showing score in outlook column

["Martin G. Diehl" <md...@nac.net>]

Chris Hale wrote:
 >
> I think I've exhausted my search on Google and the archives for this list.
> 
> I have an ISP that does SpamAssassin for my email, which then I download via
> POP3.
> 
> I use Outlook 2000, which I know can filter the emails too other folders,
> etc, based on the SA headers.
> 
> What I would like to be able too do, is see the score in it's own separate
> column (preferable that could be sorted by).  
 >
> Does anybody have a COM add-in or VBScript to do this?
> 
> I get about 200 pieces of spam a day, and I hate the idea of not searching
> through the spam folder for potential false-negatives, but I also hate
> searching through that many emails (especially if I don't do it for a couple
> days).

200/day ... sounds about right.  I have 1,612 SPAM so far for the month of May.

> My feeling is that this "chore" would not be so bad, if I had a visual clue
> as too what SA thought about the email.  Sort it from lowest to highest, so
> therefore, more likely any false-negatives comes near the front.

Knowing the SPAMassassin score might not help ... why do you expect to find any
correlation bwetween score and either false positives and false negativews?

I have some messages from the SPAMassassin lists that got analyzed
(somehow, my whitelist settings got ignored sometimes) -- and of those
(28 messages out of ~1600) some got scores as high as 13.9 ... OTOH I
have seen unflagged SPAM with scores as low as 2~3.

Try this ... sort by subject and eyeball through the list
Sort by sender and eyeball through the list

That should help you spot important nail.

> Sorry if this has already been brought up.  Hard to search on such common
> words as outlook, spamassassin, score....
> 
> Thanks, Chris Hale

Re: Showing score in outlook column

[Tom Emerson <os...@pacbell.net>]

Chris Hale wrote:
> I think I've exhausted my search on Google and the archives for this list.
> 
> I have an ISP that does SpamAssassin for my email, which then I download via
> POP3.

Can you control your own userprefs file on the ISP?  If so, add the 
score as part of the "subject rewrite" rule [or whatever it's called 
nowadays]  Then your messages come up something like this:

    [spam:50.02] buy drugz now
    [spam:15.35] buy body enhancements
    [spam:06.26] buy my book

  and so on.