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Posted to dev@flink.apache.org by Etienne Chauchot <ec...@apache.org> on 2022/09/07 13:03:01 UTC
[NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Hi all,
I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will move
from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and cannot
be included in ASF projects.
Let's discuss possible solutions.
Best
Etienne
[1] https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
[2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
Re: [NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Posted by Etienne Chauchot <ec...@apache.org>.
Hi Chesnay,
Yes I came by the user thread almost at the same time you mentioned it
here :)
That was what I thought as well that we could stick to the last ASFv2
version as long as no CVE pops up. Alternatively moving to an
hypothetical ASF fork would be the easiest path for us.
Best
Etienne
Le 07/09/2022 à 16:10, Chesnay Schepler a écrit :
> But fair enough, different target audiences.
>
> For the time being we don't have to do anything. We'll just stay on
> 2.6.x and see how things unfold.
> We don't really care about new Akka features after all.
>
> If a fork pops up we could switch to that, otherwise we can look into
> alternative libraries and maybe implement certain things ourselves.
>
> As you mentioned I've filed a ticket with LEGAL, inquiring about
> whether the option in the BSL to carve out a special use grant changes
> the situation, but AFAICT at the moment it wouldn't change anything.
>
> On 07/09/2022 16:04, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
>> This is already being discussed on the user ML.
>>
>> See "New licensing for Akka"
>>
>> On 07/09/2022 15:03, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will
>>> move from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
>>>
>>> I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and
>>> cannot be included in ASF projects.
>>>
>>> Let's discuss possible solutions.
>>>
>>> Best
>>>
>>> Etienne
>>>
>>> [1]
>>> https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
>>>
>>> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>>>
>>
>
Re: [NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Posted by Chesnay Schepler <ch...@apache.org>.
But fair enough, different target audiences.
For the time being we don't have to do anything. We'll just stay on
2.6.x and see how things unfold.
We don't really care about new Akka features after all.
If a fork pops up we could switch to that, otherwise we can look into
alternative libraries and maybe implement certain things ourselves.
As you mentioned I've filed a ticket with LEGAL, inquiring about whether
the option in the BSL to carve out a special use grant changes the
situation, but AFAICT at the moment it wouldn't change anything.
On 07/09/2022 16:04, Chesnay Schepler wrote:
> This is already being discussed on the user ML.
>
> See "New licensing for Akka"
>
> On 07/09/2022 15:03, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will
>> move from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
>>
>> I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and
>> cannot be included in ASF projects.
>>
>> Let's discuss possible solutions.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>> [1]
>> https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
>>
>> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>>
>
Re: [NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Posted by Chesnay Schepler <ch...@apache.org>.
This is already being discussed on the user ML.
See "New licensing for Akka"
On 07/09/2022 15:03, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will
> move from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
>
> I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and
> cannot be included in ASF projects.
>
> Let's discuss possible solutions.
>
> Best
>
> Etienne
>
> [1]
> https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
>
> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>
Re: [NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Posted by Etienne Chauchot <ec...@apache.org>.
Hi,
Thanks Chesnay for this clarifying blog post.
I was off on Friday, it was merged while I was gone but LGTM.
Best
Etienne
Le 08/09/2022 à 12:25, Chesnay Schepler a écrit :
> I have prepared a blogpost for the whole situation:
> https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/570
>
> Any feedback/comments are highly appreciated; if you feel another
> question should be answered, or something in the the post shouldn't be
> said, don't hesitate to comment.
>
> On 07/09/2022 15:03, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will
>> move from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
>>
>> I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and
>> cannot be included in ASF projects.
>>
>> Let's discuss possible solutions.
>>
>> Best
>>
>> Etienne
>>
>> [1]
>> https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
>>
>> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>>
>
Re: [NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Posted by Chesnay Schepler <ch...@apache.org>.
I have prepared a blogpost for the whole situation:
https://github.com/apache/flink-web/pull/570
Any feedback/comments are highly appreciated; if you feel another
question should be answered, or something in the the post shouldn't be
said, don't hesitate to comment.
On 07/09/2022 15:03, Etienne Chauchot wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will
> move from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
>
> I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and
> cannot be included in ASF projects.
>
> Let's discuss possible solutions.
>
> Best
>
> Etienne
>
> [1]
> https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
>
> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>
Re: [NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Posted by Etienne Chauchot <ec...@apache.org>.
I just came by this ticket on LEGAL that Chesnay opened:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LEGAL-619
Best
Etienne
Le 07/09/2022 à 15:03, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will
> move from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
>
> I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and
> cannot be included in ASF projects.
>
> Let's discuss possible solutions.
>
> Best
>
> Etienne
>
> [1]
> https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
>
> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>
Re: [NEWS][DISCUSS] Akka moves to BSL licence
Posted by Etienne Chauchot <ec...@apache.org>.
Oops, I missed this thread:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/l57yqr1jpwjmtb4ldrnlww79lcmdod1n
closing this one.
Etienne
Le 07/09/2022 à 15:03, Etienne Chauchot a écrit :
> Hi all,
>
> I'd like to share a concerning news. I've just read that Akka will
> move from ASFv2 license to BSLv1.1 (1)
>
> I guess this license is considered Category X (2) by the ASF and
> cannot be included in ASF projects.
>
> Let's discuss possible solutions.
>
> Best
>
> Etienne
>
> [1]
> https://www.lightbend.com/blog/why-we-are-changing-the-license-for-akka
>
> [2] https://www.apache.org/legal/resolved.html#category-x
>