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WSBA, Volatile2PC

Hi,

I have questions on two features of WS-Transactions:

Will Kandula for Axis 1.x  support WS-BA  in the near future  (or is 
this extension only planned for  Axis2)?

How can I use Volatile2PC instead of Durable2PC with Kandula?

Thanks,

Benjamin


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Re: MSFT enpoints for WS-AT/C

Posted by Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
http://mssoapinterop.org/ilab/
Seems the endpoint are still up..

Enjoy :)

Thanks,
~Thilina



On 5/21/06, Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Thilina,
>
> could you please check whether those MSFT endpoints are still up (or get
> them
> up using your contacts:)) and post the links to the mailing list? I could
> not
> locate the earlier posts on this in my mailbox:(
>
> thanks,
> --dasarath
>
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Re: MSFT enpoints for WS-AT/C

Posted by Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
http://mssoapinterop.org/ilab/
Seems the endpoint are still up..

Enjoy :)

Thanks,
~Thilina



On 5/21/06, Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu> wrote:
>
> Hi Thilina,
>
> could you please check whether those MSFT endpoints are still up (or get
> them
> up using your contacts:)) and post the links to the mailing list? I could
> not
> locate the earlier posts on this in my mailbox:(
>
> thanks,
> --dasarath
>
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MSFT enpoints for WS-AT/C

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Hi Thilina,

could you please check whether those MSFT endpoints are still up (or get them 
up using your contacts:)) and post the links to the mailing list? I could not 
locate the earlier posts on this in my mailbox:(

thanks,
--dasarath

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MSFT enpoints for WS-AT/C

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Hi Thilina,

could you please check whether those MSFT endpoints are still up (or get them 
up using your contacts:)) and post the links to the mailing list? I could not 
locate the earlier posts on this in my mailbox:(

thanks,
--dasarath

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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com>.
Great...
Axis2 1.0 is released and now it's stable enough... With that we are hoping
to do a Kandula2 release in around July.. Kandula2 works fine for simple
things at this moment...Currently It uses a resource based generic
participant model opposed to the j2ee participants in Kandula1.

Waiting to have your WS-BA impl integrated to Kandula...

~Thilina


On 5/20/06, Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
> > at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all
> this
> > depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we
> will do a
> > port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.
>
> In fact, Georg and I are currently working on an Kandula_1
> implementation of WS-BA since Axis2 and hence Kandula2 didn't seem
> reasonably stable at the time of our decision.
> We got activiation and registration up and running and are currently
> working on the protocol implementation and custom extensions.
>
> Having said that, it seems to me that a port to Kandula_2 won't be a big
> challenge: the protocol specific parts are seperated from the web
> service/axis specific parts, so all we'd need are some extensions of the
> kandula2 services and it's done.
>
>
>
> -hannes
>
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Please keep sending patches - once the current committers are ready to
vote you in you'll have write access directly.

Keeping another private repo is against the community centric
development model that Apache projects follow- all work is open and in
the community.

Sanjiva.

On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 12:07 +0200, Hannes Erven wrote:
> Hi Dasarath,
> 
> 
> > if you are generating stubs for WS-BA using wsdl/xsd please send in the 
> > wsdl/xsd so that we can add it in as a test case for axis2. at the moment axis2 
> > 1.0 does not generate code for kandula1 wsdl/xsd.
> 
> Yes, we've modified the official WS-BA wsdl file (it contains errors 
> anyways) and added a maven task to generate BA stubs. (We've just c&p'd 
> the Coord/AT sections... works fine!)
> 
> I attach the XSD/WSDL files, please place them in 
> kandula\branches\Kandula_1\src\schema .
> Also attached is the updated maven.xml that includes the new BA stub 
> generating task.
> 
> For our development, we've set up a mirroring SVK repository so we can 
> check in our work independently from apache.org (where we don't have 
> write permission). If you're interested, we can always put online or 
> send a patch with a current development snapshot.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 	-hannes
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Quoting Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at>:

> For our development, we've set up a mirroring SVK repository so we can 
> check in our work independently from apache.org (where we don't have 
> write permission). If you're interested, we can always put online or 
> send a patch with a current development snapshot.
> 

thanks Hannes, I will forward these to axis2 forks. Let us commit your code to 
svn. That way all of us can have a look at it. You can send in regular patches 
and thilina (:)) and myself can apply them for the time being. I will create a 
new branch of Kandula1 so that you can freely modify any part of the Kandula 
code.

--dasarath


> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 	-hannes
> 



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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Sanjiva Weerawarana <sa...@opensource.lk>.
Please keep sending patches - once the current committers are ready to
vote you in you'll have write access directly.

Keeping another private repo is against the community centric
development model that Apache projects follow- all work is open and in
the community.

Sanjiva.

On Sun, 2006-05-21 at 12:07 +0200, Hannes Erven wrote:
> Hi Dasarath,
> 
> 
> > if you are generating stubs for WS-BA using wsdl/xsd please send in the 
> > wsdl/xsd so that we can add it in as a test case for axis2. at the moment axis2 
> > 1.0 does not generate code for kandula1 wsdl/xsd.
> 
> Yes, we've modified the official WS-BA wsdl file (it contains errors 
> anyways) and added a maven task to generate BA stubs. (We've just c&p'd 
> the Coord/AT sections... works fine!)
> 
> I attach the XSD/WSDL files, please place them in 
> kandula\branches\Kandula_1\src\schema .
> Also attached is the updated maven.xml that includes the new BA stub 
> generating task.
> 
> For our development, we've set up a mirroring SVK repository so we can 
> check in our work independently from apache.org (where we don't have 
> write permission). If you're interested, we can always put online or 
> send a patch with a current development snapshot.
> 
> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 	-hannes
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Quoting Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at>:

> For our development, we've set up a mirroring SVK repository so we can 
> check in our work independently from apache.org (where we don't have 
> write permission). If you're interested, we can always put online or 
> send a patch with a current development snapshot.
> 

thanks Hannes, I will forward these to axis2 forks. Let us commit your code to 
svn. That way all of us can have a look at it. You can send in regular patches 
and thilina (:)) and myself can apply them for the time being. I will create a 
new branch of Kandula1 so that you can freely modify any part of the Kandula 
code.

--dasarath


> 
> Best regards,
> 
> 	-hannes
> 



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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at>.
Hi Dasarath,


> if you are generating stubs for WS-BA using wsdl/xsd please send in the 
> wsdl/xsd so that we can add it in as a test case for axis2. at the moment axis2 
> 1.0 does not generate code for kandula1 wsdl/xsd.

Yes, we've modified the official WS-BA wsdl file (it contains errors 
anyways) and added a maven task to generate BA stubs. (We've just c&p'd 
the Coord/AT sections... works fine!)

I attach the XSD/WSDL files, please place them in 
kandula\branches\Kandula_1\src\schema .
Also attached is the updated maven.xml that includes the new BA stub 
generating task.

For our development, we've set up a mirroring SVK repository so we can 
check in our work independently from apache.org (where we don't have 
write permission). If you're interested, we can always put online or 
send a patch with a current development snapshot.


Best regards,

	-hannes

Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at>.
Hi Dasarath,


> if you are generating stubs for WS-BA using wsdl/xsd please send in the 
> wsdl/xsd so that we can add it in as a test case for axis2. at the moment axis2 
> 1.0 does not generate code for kandula1 wsdl/xsd.

Yes, we've modified the official WS-BA wsdl file (it contains errors 
anyways) and added a maven task to generate BA stubs. (We've just c&p'd 
the Coord/AT sections... works fine!)

I attach the XSD/WSDL files, please place them in 
kandula\branches\Kandula_1\src\schema .
Also attached is the updated maven.xml that includes the new BA stub 
generating task.

For our development, we've set up a mirroring SVK repository so we can 
check in our work independently from apache.org (where we don't have 
write permission). If you're interested, we can always put online or 
send a patch with a current development snapshot.


Best regards,

	-hannes

Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
> In fact, Georg and I are currently working on an Kandula_1 
> implementation of WS-BA since Axis2 and hence Kandula2 didn't seem 
> reasonably stable at the time of our decision.
> We got activiation and registration up and running and are currently 
> working on the protocol implementation and custom extensions.

this great news:) I'd say at this point, just get it working on either Kandula1 
or Kandula2. once we have the things figured out, we can then worry about the 
particular axis flavour. In fact I'm trying to port the current Kandula1 code 
to Axis2 these days so that we have a single/stable Kandula code base across 
both axis versions.

if you are generating stubs for WS-BA using wsdl/xsd please send in the 
wsdl/xsd so that we can add it in as a test case for axis2. at the moment axis2 
1.0 does not generate code for kandula1 wsdl/xsd.

Presently, Kandula2 uses the OM directly to generate messages but I'm not too 
happy with this approach.

thanks,
--dasarath

> Having said that, it seems to me that a port to Kandula_2 won't be a big 
> challenge: the protocol specific parts are seperated from the web 
> service/axis specific parts, so all we'd need are some extensions of the 
> kandula2 services and it's done.





> 
> 
> 
> -hannes
> 
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Thilina Gunarathne <cs...@gmail.com>.
Great...
Axis2 1.0 is released and now it's stable enough... With that we are hoping
to do a Kandula2 release in around July.. Kandula2 works fine for simple
things at this moment...Currently It uses a resource based generic
participant model opposed to the j2ee participants in Kandula1.

Waiting to have your WS-BA impl integrated to Kandula...

~Thilina


On 5/20/06, Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at> wrote:
>
> Hi folks,
>
>
> > at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all
> this
> > depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we
> will do a
> > port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.
>
> In fact, Georg and I are currently working on an Kandula_1
> implementation of WS-BA since Axis2 and hence Kandula2 didn't seem
> reasonably stable at the time of our decision.
> We got activiation and registration up and running and are currently
> working on the protocol implementation and custom extensions.
>
> Having said that, it seems to me that a port to Kandula_2 won't be a big
> challenge: the protocol specific parts are seperated from the web
> service/axis specific parts, so all we'd need are some extensions of the
> kandula2 services and it's done.
>
>
>
> -hannes
>
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
> In fact, Georg and I are currently working on an Kandula_1 
> implementation of WS-BA since Axis2 and hence Kandula2 didn't seem 
> reasonably stable at the time of our decision.
> We got activiation and registration up and running and are currently 
> working on the protocol implementation and custom extensions.

this great news:) I'd say at this point, just get it working on either Kandula1 
or Kandula2. once we have the things figured out, we can then worry about the 
particular axis flavour. In fact I'm trying to port the current Kandula1 code 
to Axis2 these days so that we have a single/stable Kandula code base across 
both axis versions.

if you are generating stubs for WS-BA using wsdl/xsd please send in the 
wsdl/xsd so that we can add it in as a test case for axis2. at the moment axis2 
1.0 does not generate code for kandula1 wsdl/xsd.

Presently, Kandula2 uses the OM directly to generate messages but I'm not too 
happy with this approach.

thanks,
--dasarath

> Having said that, it seems to me that a port to Kandula_2 won't be a big 
> challenge: the protocol specific parts are seperated from the web 
> service/axis specific parts, so all we'd need are some extensions of the 
> kandula2 services and it's done.





> 
> 
> 
> -hannes
> 
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at>.
Hi folks,


> at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all this 
> depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we will do a 
> port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.

In fact, Georg and I are currently working on an Kandula_1 
implementation of WS-BA since Axis2 and hence Kandula2 didn't seem 
reasonably stable at the time of our decision.
We got activiation and registration up and running and are currently 
working on the protocol implementation and custom extensions.

Having said that, it seems to me that a port to Kandula_2 won't be a big 
challenge: the protocol specific parts are seperated from the web 
service/axis specific parts, so all we'd need are some extensions of the 
kandula2 services and it's done.



-hannes

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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Hannes Erven <ha...@erven.at>.
Hi folks,


> at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all this 
> depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we will do a 
> port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.

In fact, Georg and I are currently working on an Kandula_1 
implementation of WS-BA since Axis2 and hence Kandula2 didn't seem 
reasonably stable at the time of our decision.
We got activiation and registration up and running and are currently 
working on the protocol implementation and custom extensions.

Having said that, it seems to me that a port to Kandula_2 won't be a big 
challenge: the protocol specific parts are seperated from the web 
service/axis specific parts, so all we'd need are some extensions of the 
kandula2 services and it's done.



-hannes

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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Quoting Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>:
> > when you call enlistParticipant on a transaction object, pass 'false'
> > as the first argument.
> >
> > TransactionImpl:
> >
> > public void enlistParticipant(boolean durable,
> > 	AbstractParticipant participant) throws RemoteException 
> >
> >   
> Okay, this depends on the participant. When you commit a transaction, 
> then there is first a phase where Volatile2PC is done and then a phase 
> for Durable2PC automatically. Is that right?

correct.

--dasarath

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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Quoting Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>:
> > when you call enlistParticipant on a transaction object, pass 'false'
> > as the first argument.
> >
> > TransactionImpl:
> >
> > public void enlistParticipant(boolean durable,
> > 	AbstractParticipant participant) throws RemoteException 
> >
> >   
> Okay, this depends on the participant. When you commit a transaction, 
> then there is first a phase where Volatile2PC is done and then a phase 
> for Durable2PC automatically. Is that right?

correct.

--dasarath

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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>.
> Quoting Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>:
>
>   
>> Will Kandula for Axis 1.x  support WS-BA  in the near future  (or is 
>> this extension only planned for  Axis2)?
>>     
>
> at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all this 
> depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we will do a 
> port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.
>
>   
>> How can I use Volatile2PC instead of Durable2PC with Kandula?
>>     
>
> when you call enlistParticipant on a transaction object, pass 'false'
> as the first argument.
>
> TransactionImpl:
>
> public void enlistParticipant(boolean durable,
> 	AbstractParticipant participant) throws RemoteException 
>
>   
Okay, this depends on the participant. When you commit a transaction, 
then there is first a phase where Volatile2PC is done and then a phase 
for Durable2PC automatically. Is that right?
> when a j2ee participant registers for a transaction, Durable2PC is always used. 
> there is no way to change this at present. if you could illaborate your 
> scenario I may be able to provide you with a fix.
>
> thanks,
> --dasarath
>
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>.
> Quoting Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>:
>
>   
>> Will Kandula for Axis 1.x  support WS-BA  in the near future  (or is 
>> this extension only planned for  Axis2)?
>>     
>
> at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all this 
> depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we will do a 
> port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.
>
>   
>> How can I use Volatile2PC instead of Durable2PC with Kandula?
>>     
>
> when you call enlistParticipant on a transaction object, pass 'false'
> as the first argument.
>
> TransactionImpl:
>
> public void enlistParticipant(boolean durable,
> 	AbstractParticipant participant) throws RemoteException 
>
>   
Okay, this depends on the participant. When you commit a transaction, 
then there is first a phase where Volatile2PC is done and then a phase 
for Durable2PC automatically. Is that right?
> when a j2ee participant registers for a transaction, Durable2PC is always used. 
> there is no way to change this at present. if you could illaborate your 
> scenario I may be able to provide you with a fix.
>
> thanks,
> --dasarath
>
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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Quoting Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>:

> Will Kandula for Axis 1.x  support WS-BA  in the near future  (or is 
> this extension only planned for  Axis2)?

at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all this 
depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we will do a 
port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.

> 
> How can I use Volatile2PC instead of Durable2PC with Kandula?

when you call enlistParticipant on a transaction object, pass 'false'
as the first argument.

TransactionImpl:

public void enlistParticipant(boolean durable,
	AbstractParticipant participant) throws RemoteException 

when a j2ee participant registers for a transaction, Durable2PC is always used. 
there is no way to change this at present. if you could illaborate your 
scenario I may be able to provide you with a fix.

thanks,
--dasarath

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Re: WSBA, Volatile2PC

Posted by Dasarath Weeratunge <dw...@purdue.edu>.
Quoting Benjamin Schmeling <Be...@gmx.de>:

> Will Kandula for Axis 1.x  support WS-BA  in the near future  (or is 
> this extension only planned for  Axis2)?

at the moment Hannes is working on a BA implementation for Axis2. all this 
depends on the need. if there are forks who want BA for Kandula1, we will do a 
port, otherwise all future work will be on Axis2.

> 
> How can I use Volatile2PC instead of Durable2PC with Kandula?

when you call enlistParticipant on a transaction object, pass 'false'
as the first argument.

TransactionImpl:

public void enlistParticipant(boolean durable,
	AbstractParticipant participant) throws RemoteException 

when a j2ee participant registers for a transaction, Durable2PC is always used. 
there is no way to change this at present. if you could illaborate your 
scenario I may be able to provide you with a fix.

thanks,
--dasarath

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