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Posted to user@cayenne.apache.org by Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com> on 2007/08/06 21:18:58 UTC
[POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Hi all,
Abstract:
========
One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to forego
Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a Java
5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but supporting
our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
Poll:
====
If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
[ ] Java 1.4 support
[ ] Java 5 support
Thanks,
Kevin
--
Kevin Menard
Servprise International, Inc.
800.832.3823 x308
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@maniatis.org>.
[X] Java 1.4 support
[X] Java 1.5 support
Since we are using Cayenne 3 in a 1.4 environment for our current
release cycle, I'd like to see 3.0 supported for at least a few more
months under 1.4 (just for any bug fixes which might arise). But
after that, 1.5 all the way....
Ari Maniatis
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Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Rosati Claudio <cl...@acsys.it>.
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [ X] Java 5 support
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On Aug 6, 2007, at 9:18 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Abstract:
> ========
>
> One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to
> forego
> Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a
> Java
> 5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
> releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
>
> Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but
> supporting
> our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
>
>
> Poll:
> ====
>
> If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
> with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
>
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [ ] Java 5 support
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Menard
> Servprise International, Inc.
> 800.832.3823 x308
>
>
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Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@ish.com.au>.
On 12/11/2007, at 6:06 PM, james wrote:
> [X] Java 5 support
>
> I'll like to see generic supported in Cayenne 3.0.
The decision was made to move Cayenne 3 to Java 5 in the near future,
mostly likely before Milestone 3. That doesn't mean generics will all
appear instantly, but the way will be open to start implementing them.
Ari Maniatis
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Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@ish.com.au>.
On 19/11/2007, at 6:37 AM, Tarik Cherkaoui wrote:
> It would be great to use generic types to get rid of casting on object
> creation. So yes, java 5 would be great. (I am actually using java
> 6...)
> Artist a = context.newObject(Artist.class);
I think this poll is well and truly closed now... the conversion to
Java 5 has already happened in trunk of Cayenne. The next milestone
will include some number of generics (although probably not everywhere).
Regards
Ari
-------------------------->
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phone +61 2 9550 5001 fax +61 2 9550 4001
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Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Tarik Cherkaoui <ch...@gmail.com>.
It would be great to use generic types to get rid of casting on object
creation. So yes, java 5 would be great. (I am actually using java 6...)
Artist a = context.newObject(Artist.class);
On Nov 12, 2007 2:06 AM, james <i_...@yahoo.com.sg> wrote:
> [X] Java 5 support
>
> I'll like to see generic supported in Cayenne 3.0.
>
>
>
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by james <i_...@yahoo.com.sg>.
[X] Java 5 support
I'll like to see generic supported in Cayenne 3.0.
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Ryan Holmes <ry...@hyperstep.com>.
> [x ] Java 5 support
On Aug 6, 2007, at 12:18 PM, Kevin Menard wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Abstract:
> ========
>
> One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to
> forego
> Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a
> Java
> 5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
> releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
>
> Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but
> supporting
> our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
>
>
> Poll:
> ====
>
> If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
> with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
>
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [ ] Java 5 support
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Menard
> Servprise International, Inc.
> 800.832.3823 x308
>
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Mike Kienenberger <mk...@gmail.com>.
When I upgrade to Cayenne 3.0, it will be used under Java 1.5.
On 8/6/07, Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Abstract:
> ========
>
> One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to forego
> Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a Java
> 5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
> releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
>
> Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but supporting
> our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
>
>
> Poll:
> ====
>
> If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
> with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
>
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [ ] Java 5 support
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Menard
> Servprise International, Inc.
> 800.832.3823 x308
>
>
AW: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Peter Schröder <Pe...@freenet-ag.de>.
as there are some more new frameworks that rely on java 5 features such as tapestry, i think that this is the future. so:
[X] Java 1.5 support
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Von: Kevin Menard [mailto:kmenard@servprise.com]
Gesendet: Montag, 6. August 2007 21:19
An: user@cayenne.apache.org
Betreff: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Hi all,
Abstract:
========
One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to forego
Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a Java
5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but supporting
our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
Poll:
====
If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
[ ] Java 1.4 support
[ ] Java 5 support
Thanks,
Kevin
--
Kevin Menard
Servprise International, Inc.
800.832.3823 x308
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Demis Gallisto <de...@matrix.it>.
[ ] Java 1.4 support
[X] Java 5 support
Demis Gallisto
Kevin Menard wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Abstract:
> ========
>
> One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to forego
> Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a Java
> 5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
> releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
>
> Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but supporting
> our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
>
>
> Poll:
> ====
>
> If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
> with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
>
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [ ] Java 5 support
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Robert Zeigler <ro...@puregumption.com>.
[ ] Java 1.4 support
[X] Java 1.5 support
Robert
On Aug 6, 2007, at 8/62:18 PM , Kevin Menard wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Abstract:
> ========
>
> One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to
> forego
> Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a
> Java
> 5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
> releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
>
> Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but
> supporting
> our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
>
>
> Poll:
> ====
>
> If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
> with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
>
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [ ] Java 5 support
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Menard
> Servprise International, Inc.
> 800.832.3823 x308
>
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Joe Baldwin <jf...@earthlink.net>.
Gilberto,
that is a good question, the docs:
Website link: Version 3.0 (in development) -> Cayenne guide ->
Installation
URL: http://cayenne.apache.org/doc/installation.html
indicate that the required JDK minimum version (for 3.0) is 1.4,
however my recollection is (and this may be incorrect), that someone
mentioned that 1.5 is required for some of the capabilities.
I am currently running Java 1.5 with Cayenne 3.0.
Hope this helps,
Joe
On Aug 17, 2007, at 5:59 PM, Gilberto C Andrade wrote:
> Steve Wells wrote:
>> [ ] Java 1.4 support
>> [X] Java 5 support
>>
>> I'm on Java 6
>>
>>>
>>>
>>
> Hi, I'm new on the list.
>
> I'm from Brazil (www.secad.to.gov.br) and using cayenne 3.0 for some
> time (we're replacing old java webapp made with jdbc by cayenne). Here
> we will stay with java 1.4 for sometime because of one HR application
> made with oracle forms 10g (which is only certificated on java
> 1.4). So,
> the question: We will be able to use cayenne 3.0 on this server?
>
> Thanks in advance!
>
> Gilberto
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Hi Gilberto,
Like Ari said, we are trying to make this decision now - switch or
not to switch 3.0 development to Java 1.5. The [POLL] thread was of
course started to ask user opinion and see what app servers would
still force the JDK 1.4 on the users.
So a question to you - would it be possible to switch to Cayenne
2.0.3 for your application? What 3.0 features are you relying upon?
Andrus
On Aug 17, 2007, at 9:41 PM, Aristedes Maniatis wrote:
> On 18/08/2007, at 7:59 AM, Gilberto C Andrade wrote:
>
>> I'm from Brazil (www.secad.to.gov.br) and using cayenne 3.0 for some
>> time (we're replacing old java webapp made with jdbc by cayenne).
>> Here
>> we will stay with java 1.4 for sometime because of one HR application
>> made with oracle forms 10g (which is only certificated on java
>> 1.4). So,
>> the question: We will be able to use cayenne 3.0 on this server?
>
> There is currently a discussion between the Cayenne developers
> about whether to require 1.5 in the final 3.0 release. Of course
> you can continue to run 3.0M1 should that be the case, but the
> final decision has not yet been made of when exactly to move to
> JDK1.5 as a minimum requirement.
>
> Ari Maniatis
>
>
>
> -------------------------->
> Aristedes Maniatis
> phone +61 2 9660 9700
> PGP fingerprint 08 57 20 4B 80 69 59 E2 A9 BF 2D 48 C2 20 0C C8
>
>
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Aristedes Maniatis <ar...@maniatis.org>.
On 18/08/2007, at 7:59 AM, Gilberto C Andrade wrote:
> I'm from Brazil (www.secad.to.gov.br) and using cayenne 3.0 for some
> time (we're replacing old java webapp made with jdbc by cayenne). Here
> we will stay with java 1.4 for sometime because of one HR application
> made with oracle forms 10g (which is only certificated on java
> 1.4). So,
> the question: We will be able to use cayenne 3.0 on this server?
There is currently a discussion between the Cayenne developers about
whether to require 1.5 in the final 3.0 release. Of course you can
continue to run 3.0M1 should that be the case, but the final decision
has not yet been made of when exactly to move to JDK1.5 as a minimum
requirement.
Ari Maniatis
-------------------------->
Aristedes Maniatis
phone +61 2 9660 9700
PGP fingerprint 08 57 20 4B 80 69 59 E2 A9 BF 2D 48 C2 20 0C C8
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Gilberto C Andrade <gi...@secad.to.gov.br>.
Steve Wells wrote:
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [X] Java 5 support
>
> I'm on Java 6
>
>>
>>
>
Hi, I'm new on the list.
I'm from Brazil (www.secad.to.gov.br) and using cayenne 3.0 for some
time (we're replacing old java webapp made with jdbc by cayenne). Here
we will stay with java 1.4 for sometime because of one HR application
made with oracle forms 10g (which is only certificated on java 1.4). So,
the question: We will be able to use cayenne 3.0 on this server?
Thanks in advance!
Gilberto
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Steve Wells <we...@gmail.com>.
[ ] Java 1.4 support
[X] Java 5 support
I'm on Java 6
>
>
>
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by "Alexander Lamb (dev)" <al...@mac.com>.
Java 5 only ( currently we are in production on Java 6 with Cayenne 2
and Tapestry 4.1 and migrating to Tapestry 5 which is Java 5 only :-)
Le 7 août 07 à 14:54, Michael Gentry a écrit :
>> [ ] Java 1.4 support
>> [X] Java 5 support
>
> Given that a big change in Cayenne 3.0 is JPA, which requires Java 5,
> this would seem to make the most sense. Cayenne 1.2/2.0 are still
> fine releases for people on Java 1.4 (which is what I'm using). Even
> the conservative financial place I'm at is putting Java 5 on their
> servers. Also, from a development perspective, it would clean up the
> Eclipse workspace -- wouldn't need to have separate project
> directories for the two different versions of Java.
>
> /dev/mrg
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Michael Gentry <bl...@gmail.com>.
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [X] Java 5 support
Given that a big change in Cayenne 3.0 is JPA, which requires Java 5,
this would seem to make the most sense. Cayenne 1.2/2.0 are still
fine releases for people on Java 1.4 (which is what I'm using). Even
the conservative financial place I'm at is putting Java 5 on their
servers. Also, from a development perspective, it would clean up the
Eclipse workspace -- wouldn't need to have separate project
directories for the two different versions of Java.
/dev/mrg
Re: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by David Solis <h....@gmail.com>.
[ ] Java 1.4 support
[X] Java 1.5 suppor
On Aug 6, 2007 1:18 PM, Kevin Menard <km...@servprise.com> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> Abstract:
> ========
>
> One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to forego
> Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a Java
> 5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
> releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
>
> Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but supporting
> our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
>
>
> Poll:
> ====
>
> If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
> with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
>
> [ ] Java 1.4 support
> [ ] Java 5 support
>
> Thanks,
> Kevin
>
> --
> Kevin Menard
> Servprise International, Inc.
> 800.832.3823 x308
>
>
--
過労死
RE: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
Posted by Jan Lendholt <jl...@hotmail.com>.
>[ ] Java 1.4 support
>[X] Java 5 support
>From: "Kevin Menard" <km...@servprise.com>
>Reply-To: user@cayenne.apache.org
>To: <us...@cayenne.apache.org>
>Subject: [POLL]: Cayenne 3.0 -- Java 1.4 or 5 support?
>Date: Mon, 6 Aug 2007 15:18:58 -0400
>
>Hi all,
>
>Abstract:
>========
>
>One of the recent discussions on the developer list is whether to forego
>Java 1.4 compatibility and switch Cayenne development to require a Java
>5 base. Note that regardless of where 3.0 goes, the 1.2.x and 2.0.x
>releases will remain 1.4 compatible.
>
>Java 5 provides some compelling reasons for the upgrade, but supporting
>our user base trumps all. Thus, this poll.
>
>
>Poll:
>====
>
>If you are planning to upgrade to Cayenne 3.0 or start a new project
>with it, which of the following best fits your needs:
>
>[ ] Java 1.4 support
>[ ] Java 5 support
>
>Thanks,
>Kevin
>
>--
>Kevin Menard
>Servprise International, Inc.
>800.832.3823 x308
>
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