Re: How to get Product Information with its Bar Code?

[Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>]

Hi Angus, Ajey,

Just to correct a point, I did not write the POS application, Andrew Zenesky did. It is true though that I took the lead and I'm
maintaining/enhancing it for 3 years now with the great help of Chris Lombardi this last time, Ray Barlow has also helped much,
sorry for those that I forget...

Ajey, have you understood now that actually the bar code representation of a productId is the same than this productID but in
another form ? It's just another representation of it, like a photo of the you is not you but... you see ? And of course, don't
expect OFBiz to do everything you need for you. Like I said before : bricks and mortar.

Maybe this can help (maybe not, can be a trap ;o) http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Treachery_of_Images. I remember having a
discussion about this with Andrew Sykes who have a background of philosophy of art, it's a pity that, I think, he is not reading 
this thread anymore (will see ;o)

BTW, the most brilliant use of this concept is certainly
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/G%C3%B6del%27s_incompleteness_theorems, but that's another story...

Have a good week-end

Jacques

From: "Angus Gow" <an...@iwantoneofthose.com>
Ajey,

For my project I employed the help of Jacques, Rupert Howell and Manuel Meyer. Jacques wrote the POS application and understands
this very well. The best course of action if you do not understand the "ins and outs" of the application is to buy consultancy from
the very capable skills within the community. It will more than pay for itself even in the short term.

Regards

Angus Gow
Back Office Systems | I Want One Of Those Ltd. |

From: Ajey [mailto:ajey.bitin@gmail.com]
Hi Angus,
your answer is very closer to my requirement but still complicated, perhaps
I'm not getting your words properly. Its true that Bar Code represents a
piece of data. Suppose I created a product and fed information for it like
Product Name, price, Features etc. Now OFBiz generated a Bar Code for this
uniquely. Also, I've a Bar Code Reader. I took the scan of this Bar Code.
So, how can again the information can be fetched with its Bar Code. You told
that EAN number is generated, then these EAN nn. would must be being saved
in the database to process the query. Where they are getting saved in our
database, what is its format? You also told that OFBiz has the capability of
depicting information as barcodes, so, please tell me iin detail how it all
works. Is there any utility available on the Admin part from where we can
fetch the barcode concerned information. I want to setup a POS system with
all these functionalities. You said that all its possible, please explain in
detail so that I can get them.
Thanx again.



Angus Gow wrote:
>
> Ajey,
>
> Think of it this way...
>
> A barcode is a font. It represents a piece of data, in itself it is not
> data that is relevent. For example, an EAN number issued as a
> representation of a product, this number can tell you a lot about a
> product but is depicted as a barcode, The number is the important
> information, not the barcode depiction of this number.
>
> OfBiz provides the capability of depicting information as barcodes, such
> as product id, or EAN number which can then be used to query data related
> to this product. We operate an extensive catalogue and warehouse operation
> using barcodes without storing graphical barcode data in the system
> itself. All a barcode is, is a depiction of a piece of data in a barcode
> readable format. It would never be classed as data in itself.
>
> Angus Gow
> Back Office Systems | I Want One Of Those Ltd. |
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ajey [mailto:ajey.bitin@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thu 28/02/2008 20:53
> To: user@ofbiz.apache.org
> Subject: Re: How to get Product Information with its Bar Code?
>
>
> Thanx Freeman, but where shall i write this situation to David, is there
> any
> Id, on in this forum itself, you were right, I really have a tough
> schedule
> for this and I was expecting that functionalities are there in OFBiz, if
> not, in your point of view, how much time it will take for development?
> Also, the utilities provided within OFBiz are not sufficient to handle
> this
> issue? Plz tell me.
>
>
>
> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>
>> If you wish to do this yourself I suggest contacting David Jones about
>> Training.
>> If you are one a tight schedule and need someone to do this for you then
>> I suggest you contact someone on the list of service providers.
>>
>>
>>
>> Ajey sent the following on 2/28/2008 12:27 PM:
>>> Ya Freeman, I think you are right coz I'm not getting the related stuffs
>>> in
>>> helpful format. Can you please specify me some links or something
>>> related
>>> with which I can move ahead and build a concept, actually I'm confusing
>>> in
>>> the beginning that how i can start, what I've to do, what is given and
>>> what
>>> is missing. Actually I was expecting that OFBiz would be providing all
>>> these
>>> features. Please help me out. Its really very required.
>>>
>>>
>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>> you will need a barcode scanner applet to use in other places than the
>>>> POS.
>>>> you will then need to customize the application(s) to use the applet
>>>> for
>>>>  input to pull up the content.
>>>> As I suggested before you need to have someone that is familiar with
>>>> ofbiz due this for you, I doubt you will not get the info you need from
>>>> the mailing list. It is to lengthy.
>>>>
>>>> Ajey sent the following on 2/28/2008 11:54 AM:
>>>>> Thanx Freeman, I want to know what kind of facility is available
>>>>> regarding
>>>>> Bar Code in our OFBiz. See, the POS concept is there in application
>>>>> which
>>>>> also have the detailed information about keyboards, bar codes etc.
>>>>> From
>>>>> POS
>>>>> point of view how we can capture the details from Bar Code Reader for
>>>>> a
>>>>> particular Bar Code. Because these are the basic required things on
>>>>> POS.
>>>>> Bar
>>>>> Code is unique to a particular product, it'll fetch the related
>>>>> contents
>>>>> only if it'll get saved with connected information in our system. Is
>>>>> this
>>>>> available iin OFBiz, because generating Bar Codes is not a solution,
>>>>> it
>>>>> should be implemented completely in the application. Please tell me in
>>>>> detail coz I'm really feeling very complication while understanding
>>>>> all
>>>>> these, how can I setup a POS with Bar Code functionalities.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> BJ Freeman wrote:
>>>>>> Barcode is only for the Device to scan.
>>>>>> once scanned it is converted to a string that represents a productID.
>>>>>> There is not barcode (graphics) matching in ofbiz.
>>>>>> so any routine that calls up content based on ProductID can be fed
>>>>>> this
>>>>>> string.
>>>>>> So the only code that needs to be developed is connecting the
>>>>>> Scanners
>>>>>> to the service or page the shows the information you want.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ajey sent the following on 2/27/2008 3:07 PM:
>>>>>>> Thanx Jacques for ur reply. But the problem still exists. I know
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Bar
>>>>>>> Code are generated but the issue is that how I can combine and
>>>>>>> associate
>>>>>>> related contents of a Product. Is there anyway, I can fetch the
>>>>>>> contents
>>>>>>> with Product Bar Code. Does OFBiz supports this feature and the
>>>>>>> feature
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> given in SVN updates? Also, if not, what kind of modifications I've
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>> to implement this in my application. Is there any tools available
>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> store the related contents on behalf of a Bar Code. I need only this
>>>>>>> functionality that instead of using Product Id, I can use Bar Codes
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> fetch
>>>>>>> the respective details of a Product. Plz suggest me the appropriate
>>>>>>> solution
>>>>>>> to cope this problem.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> jacques.le.roux wrote:
>>>>>>>> The bar code is only a representation of the productID and is
>>>>>>>> generated
>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>> the fly.
>>>>>>>> For instance, this is the representation of the productID of the
>>>>>>>> Enchiladas product  :
>>>>>>>> https://demo.hotwaxmedia.com/catalog/control/ProductBarCode.pdf?productId=ENCHILADAS&productName=Enchiladas
>>>>>>>> A bar code reader is able to render the original productID string
>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>> any
>>>>>>>> text field (you may render it in a text editor to convince
>>>>>>>> yourself).
>>>>>>>> So you can use it in the place of the productID evereywhere you
>>>>>>>> need
>>>>>>>> it.
>>>>>>>> It's up to you, bricks and mortar are provided, but you
>>>>>>>> must build the house (everyone needs his/her own specific house,
>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>> ?)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jacques
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>>> How can I get the product details with its Bar Code. As OFBiz
>>>>>>>>> generates
>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>> Bar Code automatically, where the Bar Code is actually saved in
>>>>>>>>> our
>>>>>>>>> database
>>>>>>>>> and where in the Admin panel we can get detailed information of
>>>>>>>>> Products
>>>>>>>>> by
>>>>>>>>> its Bar Code. I'm facing quite difficulty while understanding
>>>>>>>>> these
>>>>>>>>> functionalities. Please help me. I need the help urgently.
>>>>>>>>> Thanx,
>>>>>>>>> Ajey.
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