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Posted to dev@cloudstack.apache.org by Hari Kannan <ha...@citrix.com> on 2013/02/14 21:57:27 UTC
RE: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
Hi Sanjay,
The FS states that " Root/Domain Admin should be able to limit the following resources" etc.
Do you mean a domain admin can change the limit for his own domain? If so, I wonder if this is appropriate?? A domain admin must be able to change only for any/all sub-domains or accounts under his own domain or all sub-domains -
Does it make sense?
Also, I don't see FS being up-to-date - for example, the detail regarding the upgrade scenario doesn't seem to be updated, as per Chiradeep' suggestion..
Can you please take of it?
Thanks!
Hari
-----Original Message-----
From: Sanjay Tripathi [mailto:sanjay.tripathi@citrix.com]
Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:06 AM
To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
Comments Inline
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:Chiradeep.Vittal@citrix.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:22 PM
> To: CloudStack DeveloperList
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
>
> Are there any alarms / events /warnings raised for this condition?
[] If user cross the resource limit set for his/her account, CloudStack throws a message to the user that limit of this resource type has been exceeded. Apart from this CS does not send any alarm or warnings for this condition(if there is a requirement for this, I can definitely add it into this feature).
> Can the end-user see how much capacity he / she has left (through an
> API
> call)
> Can they see it on the UI?
[] We don't have separate API for this. To calculate the resources that are left for his/her account, user can use listAccounts API which displays the resource limits and the total resources that are being consumed by that account.
In CloudStack UI, user can see the resource details under the "accounts" detailView.
> Should the limits be associated with an account? Or should the account
> be linked to a 'rate plan'.
>
> On 1/21/13 10:36 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" <Ch...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
>
> >Please update the FS with this important detail.
> >
> >On 1/16/13 11:52 AM, "Sanjay Tripathi" <sa...@citrix.com> wrote:
> >
> >>Koushik,
> >>
> >>>What is the upgrade story? For e.g. say based on the existing VM's
> >>>for an account, the total CPU and RAM exceeds the global maximums.
> >>>What happens in this case?
> >>
> >>
> >>If admin sets the limits for an account and suppose that account
> >>already has existing VMs whose total CPU and RAM counts are
> >>exceeding the limits, in this case CloudStack would not shut down
> >>the VMs assigned to account to level the resources. If the user
> >>tries to deploy a VM, CS will check the limits of that account and
> >>in this case CS will not allow the account to deploy the VM.
> >>
> >>>Also for CPU number of cores are considered, should speed also be
> >>>considered?
> >>Thanks for suggestion :), we can consider speed also as a part of
> >>CPU resource.
> >>
> >>Thanks,
> >>Sanjay
> >>
> >>
> >>> -----Original Message-----
> >>> From: Chris Sears [mailto:chris.x.sears@sungard.com]
> >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:39 PM
> >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
> >>>
> >>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Sanjay Tripathi
> >>> <sanjay.tripathi@citrix.com
> >>> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Can anyone suggest that what should be the default max resource
> >>> > values that an account/project can have for the following global
> >>> > config
> >>> parameters:
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> It seems like the least surprising default max would be to leave
> >>>them all unlimited. Otherwise, it's likely some admins will just
> >>>overlook this and then just stumble upon the arbitrary limit. If
> >>>you default to unlimited, only admins who need to restrict it will
> >>>need to be concerned with the settings.
> >>>
> >>> As an aside, I wasn't clear from the FS how to specify "unlimited"
> >>>in the UI.
> >>> Does leaving the value blank imply unlimited?
> >>>
> >>> - Chris
> >
RE: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
Posted by Sanjay Tripathi <sa...@citrix.com>.
Hi Hari,
Thanks for suggestions, pls find my comments inline.
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Hari Kannan [mailto:hari.kannan@citrix.com]
> Sent: Friday, February 15, 2013 2:27 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
>
> Hi Sanjay,
>
> The FS states that " Root/Domain Admin should be able to limit the following
> resources" etc.
>
> Do you mean a domain admin can change the limit for his own domain? If so,
> I wonder if this is appropriate?? A domain admin must be able to change only
> for any/all sub-domains or accounts under his own domain or all sub-domains
> -
>
> Does it make sense?
This is already the existing behavior in CloudStack and I have updated the FS to avoid the confusion.
>
> Also, I don't see FS being up-to-date - for example, the detail regarding the
> upgrade scenario doesn't seem to be updated, as per Chiradeep'
> suggestion..
I had already updated the details regarding the upgrade scenario under "Use Cases" heading.
Please let me know if anything else need to add/update.
>
> Can you please take of it?
>
> Thanks!
>
> Hari
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Sanjay Tripathi [mailto:sanjay.tripathi@citrix.com]
> Sent: Wednesday, January 23, 2013 9:06 AM
> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> Subject: RE: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
>
>
> Comments Inline
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Chiradeep Vittal [mailto:Chiradeep.Vittal@citrix.com]
> > Sent: Tuesday, January 22, 2013 12:22 PM
> > To: CloudStack DeveloperList
> > Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
> >
> > Are there any alarms / events /warnings raised for this condition?
> [] If user cross the resource limit set for his/her account, CloudStack throws a
> message to the user that limit of this resource type has been exceeded.
> Apart from this CS does not send any alarm or warnings for this condition(if
> there is a requirement for this, I can definitely add it into this feature).
>
> > Can the end-user see how much capacity he / she has left (through an
> > API
> > call)
> > Can they see it on the UI?
> [] We don't have separate API for this. To calculate the resources that are left
> for his/her account, user can use listAccounts API which displays the resource
> limits and the total resources that are being consumed by that account.
> In CloudStack UI, user can see the resource details under the "accounts"
> detailView.
>
> > Should the limits be associated with an account? Or should the account
> > be linked to a 'rate plan'.
> >
> > On 1/21/13 10:36 PM, "Chiradeep Vittal" <Ch...@citrix.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > >Please update the FS with this important detail.
> > >
> > >On 1/16/13 11:52 AM, "Sanjay Tripathi" <sa...@citrix.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >>Koushik,
> > >>
> > >>>What is the upgrade story? For e.g. say based on the existing VM's
> > >>>for an account, the total CPU and RAM exceeds the global maximums.
> > >>>What happens in this case?
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>If admin sets the limits for an account and suppose that account
> > >>already has existing VMs whose total CPU and RAM counts are
> > >>exceeding the limits, in this case CloudStack would not shut down
> > >>the VMs assigned to account to level the resources. If the user
> > >>tries to deploy a VM, CS will check the limits of that account and
> > >>in this case CS will not allow the account to deploy the VM.
> > >>
> > >>>Also for CPU number of cores are considered, should speed also be
> > >>>considered?
> > >>Thanks for suggestion :), we can consider speed also as a part of
> > >>CPU resource.
> > >>
> > >>Thanks,
> > >>Sanjay
> > >>
> > >>
> > >>> -----Original Message-----
> > >>> From: Chris Sears [mailto:chris.x.sears@sungard.com]
> > >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2013 10:39 PM
> > >>> To: cloudstack-dev@incubator.apache.org
> > >>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] Limit Resources to domain/account
> > >>>
> > >>> On Wed, Jan 16, 2013 at 6:00 AM, Sanjay Tripathi
> > >>> <sanjay.tripathi@citrix.com
> > >>> > wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> > Can anyone suggest that what should be the default max resource
> > >>> > values that an account/project can have for the following global
> > >>> > config
> > >>> parameters:
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> It seems like the least surprising default max would be to leave
> > >>>them all unlimited. Otherwise, it's likely some admins will just
> > >>>overlook this and then just stumble upon the arbitrary limit. If
> > >>>you default to unlimited, only admins who need to restrict it will
> > >>>need to be concerned with the settings.
> > >>>
> > >>> As an aside, I wasn't clear from the FS how to specify "unlimited"
> > >>>in the UI.
> > >>> Does leaving the value blank imply unlimited?
> > >>>
> > >>> - Chris
> > >