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Re: [CLI] PatternOptionBuilder

Moving to list for general info and to get any feedback from John.

Thanks for checking.  Regarding v2 (all IMHO):

2.0 release plan?
Several times now we've said "in a month" or "in a couple of months". 
Personally I think I'm out of new features for now so I reckon it's time 
to put a stake in the ground and get the docs up to speed.  Depending on 
John's todo list (and calendar) I'm tempted to propose cutting a beta in 
a week or so with a view to releasing 2.0 by end of April.

1.0 Bugfix release?
I wasn't planning on doing so. I'd much rather evangelise and switch 
people to cli2 as it more flexible and, more importantly, easier to 
maintain.  Certainly should have a trawl through cvs to see if there are 
changes enough to justify 1.1 though.

Death to the 1.0 API?
After recent discussions I think the conclusion was to ship the 1.0 API 
but deprecate it.  There was also talk of separate jars for the two apis 
but I think that'll depend on the size of the files involved and the 
effort involved.

Hope that helps,

Rob





Torsten Curdt wrote:
> Hey, Rob,
> 
> thanks for looking into the bug
> 
>  http://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=27575
> 
> The PatternBuilder in RESEARCH_CLI_2_ROXSPRING
> seems to be ok. I'll add that to the bug description
> soon.
> 
> I am just wondering ...what is the release plan for 2.0?
> Will there be any 1.0 bugfix release?
> Will 2.0 ship with the 1.0 API for legacy reasons?
> 
> If you prefer I can also ask this on the dev list.
> 
> cheers
> -- 
> Torsten
> 

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Re: [CLI] PatternOptionBuilder

Posted by Rob Oxspring <ro...@imapmail.org>.
John Keyes wrote:

> On 26 Mar 2004, at 17:28, Rob Oxspring wrote:
> 
>> Moving to list for general info and to get any feedback from John.
>>
>> Thanks for checking.  Regarding v2 (all IMHO):
>>
>> 2.0 release plan?
>> Several times now we've said "in a month" or "in a couple of months". 
>> Personally I think I'm out of new features for now so I reckon it's 
>> time to put a stake in the ground and get the docs up to speed.  
>> Depending on John's todo list (and calendar) I'm tempted to propose 
>> cutting a beta in a week or so with a view to releasing 2.0 by end of 
>> April.
> 
> 
> I've no features to add.  

Cool - I started working on a cli1 converter class to ease the 
transition.  The interface is something like the following from memory 
(in the v1 package):

CLI2{
   o.a.c.cli2.Option option(o.a.c.cli.Option);
   o.a.c.cli2.Group group(o.a.c.cli.Options);
   o.a.c.cli2.Group group(o.a.c.cli.OptionGroup);
}


 > Just want to increase the code coverage and
> get some docs together for it.  

Well going by the results of 'maven jcoverage:html-report' we're doing 
pretty well.  Unfortunately I don't seem to be able to get it to work at 
work so I can't quote figures but IIRC the .defaults package had by far 
the lowest score at >65% and I think we need to drop that in favour of 
.commandline anyway.

 > Rob, you had some doc on your site when
> you posted about v2 originally (I think).  Do you still have these?  We 
> should get them into CVS.  A beta by the end of April sound good.

Yeah - the docs should still be about somewhere I'll see what I can do 
to get them in and uptodate.  I was hoping that 
http://www.mvdb.org/maven/plugins/svg/ would be in an off the shelf 
state so that we could chuck in some diagrams that are easy to update 
but we might have to check in the generated pngs for now.

Rob


> 
> -John K
> 
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Re: [CLI] PatternOptionBuilder

Posted by John Keyes <jo...@integralsource.com>.
On 26 Mar 2004, at 17:28, Rob Oxspring wrote:

> Moving to list for general info and to get any feedback from John.
>
> Thanks for checking.  Regarding v2 (all IMHO):
>
> 2.0 release plan?
> Several times now we've said "in a month" or "in a couple of months". 
> Personally I think I'm out of new features for now so I reckon it's 
> time to put a stake in the ground and get the docs up to speed.  
> Depending on John's todo list (and calendar) I'm tempted to propose 
> cutting a beta in a week or so with a view to releasing 2.0 by end of 
> April.

I've no features to add.  Just want to increase the code coverage and 
get some docs together for it.  Rob, you had some doc on your site when 
you posted about v2 originally (I think).  Do you still have these?  We 
should get them into CVS.  A beta by the end of April sound good.

-John K


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Re: [CLI] PatternOptionBuilder

Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org>.
>> For me the point is ...I am currently writing about it.
>> Not sure if I should go for 2.0 branch already. And I am
>> also explainging the PatternOptionBuilder - which is
>> currently not fully working.
> 
> 
> FWIW the cli2 branch is pretty stable and ready to be written about :) 

Alright ...then do a release :)

> That said though, it really depends what you want to write about and 
> when your deadline is.

Deadline is in about two weeks.
The part about cli is already done.
So I'd have to re-write it for 2.0.
Not totally sure if I wanna do that :)

>> I'd be personally in favor of either maintaining the
>> 1.0 branch for a longer while. Only doing bugfix releases.
>> Or include it into 2.0 API and deprecate it.
>>
>> Anyway this tiny bug should be fixed. I'd do it!
>> But I don't have karma over here at jakarta.
> 
> 
> Point taken, patch applied to HEAD.

Very much appreciated!
Thanks, Rob :)

Cheers
--
Torsten



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Re: [CLI] PatternOptionBuilder

Posted by Rob Oxspring <ro...@imapmail.org>.
Torsten Curdt wrote:

> 
> For me the point is ...I am currently writing about it.
> Not sure if I should go for 2.0 branch already. And I am
> also explainging the PatternOptionBuilder - which is
> currently not fully working.

FWIW the cli2 branch is pretty stable and ready to be written about :) 
That said though, it really depends what you want to write about and 
when your deadline is.

> 
> I'd be personally in favor of either maintaining the
> 1.0 branch for a longer while. Only doing bugfix releases.
> Or include it into 2.0 API and deprecate it.
> 
> Anyway this tiny bug should be fixed. I'd do it!
> But I don't have karma over here at jakarta.

Point taken, patch applied to HEAD.

Cheers,

Rob

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Re: [CLI] PatternOptionBuilder

Posted by Torsten Curdt <tc...@vafer.org>.
> Moving to list for general info and to get any feedback from John.

sure

> Thanks for checking.

np

 > Regarding v2 (all IMHO):
> 
> 2.0 release plan?
> Several times now we've said "in a month" or "in a couple of months". 
> Personally I think I'm out of new features for now so I reckon it's time 
> to put a stake in the ground and get the docs up to speed.  Depending on 
> John's todo list (and calendar) I'm tempted to propose cutting a beta in 
> a week or so with a view to releasing 2.0 by end of April.

ok

> 1.0 Bugfix release?
> I wasn't planning on doing so. I'd much rather evangelise and switch 
> people to cli2 as it more flexible and, more importantly, easier to 
> maintain.  Certainly should have a trawl through cvs to see if there are 
> changes enough to justify 1.1 though.
> 
> Death to the 1.0 API?
> After recent discussions I think the conclusion was to ship the 1.0 API 
> but deprecate it.  There was also talk of separate jars for the two apis 
> but I think that'll depend on the size of the files involved and the 
> effort involved.

For me the point is ...I am currently writing about it.
Not sure if I should go for 2.0 branch already. And I am
also explainging the PatternOptionBuilder - which is
currently not fully working.

I'd be personally in favor of either maintaining the
1.0 branch for a longer while. Only doing bugfix releases.
Or include it into 2.0 API and deprecate it.

Anyway this tiny bug should be fixed. I'd do it!
But I don't have karma over here at jakarta.

> Hope that helps,

Yes, thanks alot Rob!

cheers
--
Torsten



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