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EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
All,
Did the Apache Tomcat project ever officially announce an EOL date for
Tomcat 5.0 and 4.x? Or for 3.x for that matter?
I was looking at the Wikipedia page for Tomcat and they didn't have EOL
dates for anything before 6.0, so I filled-in the date for 5.5 but I
can't find older EOL announcements.
This page https://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html contains links to
the EOL announcements for 5.5, 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0.
I wonder if the project ever made any "official" EOL announcements for
those versions, and whether or not anyone cares enough to make those
announcements at this point, just for "posterity"? Not to fix the
Wikipedia page, but more to have something official to point to to say
"this version is officially unsupported by the vendor" just in case some
dummy somewhere wants to say "we run the latest available version of
Tomcat 4.1 from the vendor" and their product is therefore full of holes.
-chris
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RE: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
Posted by jo...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID.
Chris,
Yeah, but, this is Tomcat, not Stack Overflow. :-)
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 4:47 PM
> To: dev@tomcat.apache.org
> Subject: Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
>
> Jon,
>
> On 3/28/22 16:24, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> > If nobody else does, I dub thee
> >
> > "The Librarian"!!!
>
> Stack Overflow rewards this kind of work with a badge called "Necromancer".
>
> -chris
>
> >> -----Original Message-----
> >> From: Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>
> >> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 3:10 PM
> >> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
> >> Subject: Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
> >>
> >> пн, 28 мар. 2022 г. в 19:36, Christopher Schultz
> >> <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
> >>>
> >>> All,
> >>>
> >>> Did the Apache Tomcat project ever officially announce an EOL date
> >>> for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.x? Or for 3.x for that matter?
> >>>
> >>> I was looking at the Wikipedia page for Tomcat and they didn't have
> >>> EOL dates for anything before 6.0, so I filled-in the date for 5.5
> >>> but I can't find older EOL announcements.
> >>>
> >>> This page
> >>>
> >>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.ht
> >> ml
> >> __;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> >> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMiN0hd0o$ contains links to the EOL
> >> announcements for 5.5, 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0.
> >>>
> >>> I wonder if the project ever made any "official" EOL announcements
> >>> for those versions, and whether or not anyone cares enough to make
> >>> those announcements at this point, just for "posterity"? Not to fix
> >>> the Wikipedia page, but more to have something official to point to
> >>> to say "this version is officially unsupported by the vendor" just
> >>> in case some dummy somewhere wants to say "we run the latest
> >>> available version of Tomcat 4.1 from the vendor" and their product is
> therefore full of holes.
> >>
> >> announce@ list was created in June 2009, so all those announcements
> >> were on users@
> >>
> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/z6ljrkdqt
> >> jgnm
> >> xfctnk6f1v4dp42ptnw__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> >> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> >> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMVZP8zeA$
> >> [ANN] Apache Tomcat 5.0.x no longer supported
> >> 2007-10-23
> >>
> >>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/nw4vpbwgr
> >> n4
> >> 80gsvn06f4qj4yhoo89v7__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> >> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> >> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMhMlY8qA$
> >> [ANN] Tomcat support status
> >> 2008-03-13
> >> - It involved site cleanup, immediate EOL for 3.3, and EOL for 4.1
> >> announced to be June 2009.
> >>
> >>
> >> BTW, if anyone is interested, announcements for the last releases of
> >> 4.0 and 3.3:
> >>
> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/v1ccn429s
> >> 9lh3
> >> 2ypvwwhxo26zhh1965c__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> >> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> >> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMLnhTHRU$
> >> [ANN] Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 stable is now available
> >> 2009-06-26
> >> "Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 is very likely to be the last release of the
> >> 4.1.x series."
> >>
> >> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/q0bb1756s
> >> 8zx
> >> g949ocodmm2j2o9ntpfq__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> >> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> >> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMM-UQ43E4$
> >> [ANN] Release of Tomcat 3.3.2
> >> 2004-03-09.
> >>
> >> Best regards,
> >> Konstantin Kolinko
> >>
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Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Konstantin,
On 3/28/22 18:23, Konstantin Kolinko wrote:
> вт, 29 мар. 2022 г. в 00:47, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
>>
>> Jon,
>>
>> On 3/28/22 16:24, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
>>> If nobody else does, I dub thee
>>>
>>> "The Librarian"!!!
>>
>> Stack Overflow rewards this kind of work with a badge called "Necromancer".
>
> I happen to have 3 of those, though it looks that the official cause
> for them is a bit different.
>
> https://stackoverflow.com/users/4116988/konstantin-kolinko?tab=badges
I've got 7 :p :)
> What astonished me while looking through the archives is that I was
> one of the people who tested and voted for the 4.1.40 release. Time
> flies fast.
Wow it really does. During my first ApacheCon in Atlanta, we were
discussing whether or not Tomcat 7.0 to be be released stable or not. We
decided "not" and waited another 2 months to release the first stable
version.
-chris
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Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
Posted by Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>.
вт, 29 мар. 2022 г. в 00:47, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
>
> Jon,
>
> On 3/28/22 16:24, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> > If nobody else does, I dub thee
> >
> > "The Librarian"!!!
>
> Stack Overflow rewards this kind of work with a badge called "Necromancer".
I happen to have 3 of those, though it looks that the official cause
for them is a bit different.
https://stackoverflow.com/users/4116988/konstantin-kolinko?tab=badges
What astonished me while looking through the archives
is that I was one of the people who tested and voted for the 4.1.40
release. Time flies fast.
Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko
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Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
Jon,
On 3/28/22 16:24, jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com.INVALID wrote:
> If nobody else does, I dub thee
>
> "The Librarian"!!!
Stack Overflow rewards this kind of work with a badge called "Necromancer".
-chris
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>
>> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 3:10 PM
>> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
>>
>> пн, 28 мар. 2022 г. в 19:36, Christopher Schultz
>> <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> Did the Apache Tomcat project ever officially announce an EOL date for
>>> Tomcat 5.0 and 4.x? Or for 3.x for that matter?
>>>
>>> I was looking at the Wikipedia page for Tomcat and they didn't have
>>> EOL dates for anything before 6.0, so I filled-in the date for 5.5 but
>>> I can't find older EOL announcements.
>>>
>>> This page
>>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html
>> __;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
>> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMiN0hd0o$ contains links to the EOL
>> announcements for 5.5, 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0.
>>>
>>> I wonder if the project ever made any "official" EOL announcements for
>>> those versions, and whether or not anyone cares enough to make those
>>> announcements at this point, just for "posterity"? Not to fix the
>>> Wikipedia page, but more to have something official to point to to say
>>> "this version is officially unsupported by the vendor" just in case
>>> some dummy somewhere wants to say "we run the latest available version
>>> of Tomcat 4.1 from the vendor" and their product is therefore full of holes.
>>
>> announce@ list was created in June 2009, so all those announcements were
>> on users@
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/z6ljrkdqtjgnm
>> xfctnk6f1v4dp42ptnw__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
>> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
>> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMVZP8zeA$
>> [ANN] Apache Tomcat 5.0.x no longer supported
>> 2007-10-23
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/nw4vpbwgrn4
>> 80gsvn06f4qj4yhoo89v7__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
>> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
>> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMhMlY8qA$
>> [ANN] Tomcat support status
>> 2008-03-13
>> - It involved site cleanup, immediate EOL for 3.3, and EOL for 4.1 announced
>> to be June 2009.
>>
>>
>> BTW, if anyone is interested, announcements for the last releases of
>> 4.0 and 3.3:
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/v1ccn429s9lh3
>> 2ypvwwhxo26zhh1965c__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
>> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
>> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMLnhTHRU$
>> [ANN] Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 stable is now available
>> 2009-06-26
>> "Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 is very likely to be the last release of the
>> 4.1.x series."
>>
>> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/q0bb1756s8zx
>> g949ocodmm2j2o9ntpfq__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
>> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
>> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMM-UQ43E4$
>> [ANN] Release of Tomcat 3.3.2
>> 2004-03-09.
>>
>> Best regards,
>> Konstantin Kolinko
>>
>> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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>
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RE: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
Posted by jo...@wellsfargo.com.INVALID.
If nobody else does, I dub thee
"The Librarian"!!!
Dream * Excel * Explore * Inspire
Jon McAlexander
Infrastructure Engineer
Asst Vice President
He/His
Middleware Product Engineering
Enterprise CIO | EAS | Middleware | Infrastructure Solutions
8080 Cobblestone Rd | Urbandale, IA 50322
MAC: F4469-010
Tel 515-988-2508 | Cell 515-988-2508
jonmcalexander@wellsfargo.com
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>
> Sent: Monday, March 28, 2022 3:10 PM
> To: Tomcat Developers List <de...@tomcat.apache.org>
> Subject: Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
>
> пн, 28 мар. 2022 г. в 19:36, Christopher Schultz
> <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
> >
> > All,
> >
> > Did the Apache Tomcat project ever officially announce an EOL date for
> > Tomcat 5.0 and 4.x? Or for 3.x for that matter?
> >
> > I was looking at the Wikipedia page for Tomcat and they didn't have
> > EOL dates for anything before 6.0, so I filled-in the date for 5.5 but
> > I can't find older EOL announcements.
> >
> > This page
> >
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html
> __;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMiN0hd0o$ contains links to the EOL
> announcements for 5.5, 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0.
> >
> > I wonder if the project ever made any "official" EOL announcements for
> > those versions, and whether or not anyone cares enough to make those
> > announcements at this point, just for "posterity"? Not to fix the
> > Wikipedia page, but more to have something official to point to to say
> > "this version is officially unsupported by the vendor" just in case
> > some dummy somewhere wants to say "we run the latest available version
> > of Tomcat 4.1 from the vendor" and their product is therefore full of holes.
>
> announce@ list was created in June 2009, so all those announcements were
> on users@
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/z6ljrkdqtjgnm
> xfctnk6f1v4dp42ptnw__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMVZP8zeA$
> [ANN] Apache Tomcat 5.0.x no longer supported
> 2007-10-23
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/nw4vpbwgrn4
> 80gsvn06f4qj4yhoo89v7__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMhMlY8qA$
> [ANN] Tomcat support status
> 2008-03-13
> - It involved site cleanup, immediate EOL for 3.3, and EOL for 4.1 announced
> to be June 2009.
>
>
> BTW, if anyone is interested, announcements for the last releases of
> 4.0 and 3.3:
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/v1ccn429s9lh3
> 2ypvwwhxo26zhh1965c__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMMLnhTHRU$
> [ANN] Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 stable is now available
> 2009-06-26
> "Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 is very likely to be the last release of the
> 4.1.x series."
>
> https://urldefense.com/v3/__https://lists.apache.org/thread/q0bb1756s8zx
> g949ocodmm2j2o9ntpfq__;!!F9svGWnIaVPGSwU!4-
> uXfWX21aLQ75RonP7ikKOuxTyuxhzpEAg1A3-
> TYFUYkf3eJ0sPNo0qeZD3uJMM-UQ43E4$
> [ANN] Release of Tomcat 3.3.2
> 2004-03-09.
>
> Best regards,
> Konstantin Kolinko
>
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Re: EOL dates for Tomcat 5.0 and 4.1?
Posted by Konstantin Kolinko <kn...@gmail.com>.
пн, 28 мар. 2022 г. в 19:36, Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>:
>
> All,
>
> Did the Apache Tomcat project ever officially announce an EOL date for
> Tomcat 5.0 and 4.x? Or for 3.x for that matter?
>
> I was looking at the Wikipedia page for Tomcat and they didn't have EOL
> dates for anything before 6.0, so I filled-in the date for 5.5 but I
> can't find older EOL announcements.
>
> This page https://tomcat.apache.org/whichversion.html contains links to
> the EOL announcements for 5.5, 6.0, 7.0, and 8.0.
>
> I wonder if the project ever made any "official" EOL announcements for
> those versions, and whether or not anyone cares enough to make those
> announcements at this point, just for "posterity"? Not to fix the
> Wikipedia page, but more to have something official to point to to say
> "this version is officially unsupported by the vendor" just in case some
> dummy somewhere wants to say "we run the latest available version of
> Tomcat 4.1 from the vendor" and their product is therefore full of holes.
announce@ list was created in June 2009, so all those announcements
were on users@
https://lists.apache.org/thread/z6ljrkdqtjgnmxfctnk6f1v4dp42ptnw
[ANN] Apache Tomcat 5.0.x no longer supported
2007-10-23
https://lists.apache.org/thread/nw4vpbwgrn480gsvn06f4qj4yhoo89v7
[ANN] Tomcat support status
2008-03-13
- It involved site cleanup, immediate EOL for 3.3, and EOL for 4.1
announced to be June 2009.
BTW, if anyone is interested, announcements for the last releases of
4.0 and 3.3:
https://lists.apache.org/thread/v1ccn429s9lh32ypvwwhxo26zhh1965c
[ANN] Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 stable is now available
2009-06-26
"Apache Tomcat 4.1.40 is very likely to be the last release of the
4.1.x series."
https://lists.apache.org/thread/q0bb1756s8zxg949ocodmm2j2o9ntpfq
[ANN] Release of Tomcat 3.3.2
2004-03-09.
Best regards,
Konstantin Kolinko
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