Next Mission, DOA or interest?

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>]

cli-dev'ers,

   With the cli-dev list not particularly active in mod_aspdotnet (no criticizm,
this is mostly a finished module and should be discussed on that thread), I'd
like to come back to the original charter and purpose for cli-dev@, and why it 
wasn't simply the mod_aspdotnet effort.

   The original goal was more expansive; looking for example at mod_haydn, it's
obvious there is a desire to do .NET development of httpd modules.  However, the
haydn project is an unfinished work, while I believe most people are looking for
similar flexibility as offered by the mod_perl project to author their own
custom modules in .NET for httpd.

   I propose a name for that effort, mod_sharp.  Sharp, because I don't want to
argue the mod_net or mod_dotnet namespace, and sharp not only because of .NET's
parallel inception with C#, the fact that we would likely author the module in C
and C#, but also owing to the sharp lines between unmanaged and fully managed
code, which mod_sharp would seek to both bridge and enforce.

   As pinvoke/C# code it will be somewhat slower that a IJW implementation, but
be usable in multiple .NET engines.  Unlike mod_aspdotnet, the goal of this
effort doesn't produce anything that's covered by various patent claims, but
abstracts for .NET coders an API that the ASF clearly owns, the httpd/apr API.
If there is a desire later to optimize some code with IJW C++ technology, IMHO
that would be an addition/optimization, not a restrictive origin.

   But this can't be a one-man show.  I even doubt I personally have alot of
time to write a ton of code in the next three months.  Effectively, we need a
show-of-hands to determine how many individuals wish to *help* make this happen.
If you would respond to the following poll, please quote all that apply to you;

  * I will help author the module

  * I will help test the module, including writing tests and examples

  * I will help document the module and it's API

  * I will mentor this module, but can't contribute to it's code/docs
    [Applies to ASF members only]

  * I would use this module to author Apache httpd modules

   Finally, are there other ends for cli-dev that you envison(ed) that aren't
covered in this proposal, something you believe that cli-dev@httpd should
accomplish, or something in the proposal above which you believe was incorrect
or overlooked?

   Let's see if there is traction here, or if the purpose of cli-dev has disolved
for lack-of-interest.

Bill

Re: Next Mission, DOA or interest?

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>]

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> 
>   Let's see if there is traction here, or if the purpose of cli-dev has 
> disolved for lack-of-interest.

Thus far, there is response only from Tony.  All interested developers,
please offer any final observations on this Mission thread prior to March 8,
so that an appropriate disposition is determined for this httpd subproject.

Bill

Re: Next Mission, DOA or interest?

["William A. Rowe, Jr." <wr...@rowe-clan.net>]

William A. Rowe, Jr. wrote:
> 
>   Let's see if there is traction here, or if the purpose of cli-dev has 
> disolved for lack-of-interest.

Thus far, there is response only from Tony.  All interested developers,
please offer any final observations on this Mission thread prior to March 8,
so that an appropriate disposition is determined for this httpd subproject.

Bill

Re: Next Mission, DOA or interest?

[Tonko Juricic <to...@yahoo.com>]

Re: poll

 * I will help author the module

  * I will help test the module, including writing
tests and examples

  * I will help document the module and it's API

Sorry, other issues and considerations mentioned in
recent and related exchanges tend to be somewhat
high-level for me and I have nothing else significant
to add.

Tony
Still running mod_asp and Apache compiled with VS 2003
more than a year ago.



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