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logging-log4j repositories
Looking at LOG4J2-1705 <https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/LOG4J2-1705>,
I was thinking that requiring a separate repository for each language could
increase the barrier to entry for ideas like that.
Would it be a good idea to create a single repository
(logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM
languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Mikael Ståldal <mi...@magine.com>.
I think it's better to have one repo per language. Some languages may want
to use other build tools than Maven (e.g. sbt for Scala).
However, the documentation / site buinding is currently a barrier of entry
that we should try to mitigate.
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 7:29 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> OK, so we need an INFRA request for a log4j Kotlin repo.
>
> Gary
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I agree. I think language bindings and any language specific plugins
>> belong in their own repo.
>>
>> Ralph
>>
>> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:06 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Then you just have a project based on only one of the modules in the
>> repo, should be fine, no?
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> From a dev POV, it's not great to pull from one repo that has all these
>>> various language bindings.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:44 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> What do you mean, pick up? Are you talking from a user's point of view
>>>> about the distribution, or from a developer's POV about your workspace?
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> On 13 Nov 2016, at 11:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hm, on 2nd though I'm not sure if I'd want to pick up all JVM lang
>>>> updates if I only care about one...
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:08 PM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
>>>>>
>>>>> Gary
>>>>>
>>>>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate
>>>>> repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas
>>>>> like that.
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Would it be a good idea to create a single repository
>>>>> (logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM
>>>>> languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
OK, so we need an INFRA request for a log4j Kotlin repo.
Gary
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 8:56 AM, Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>
wrote:
> I agree. I think language bindings and any language specific plugins
> belong in their own repo.
>
> Ralph
>
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:06 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Then you just have a project based on only one of the modules in the repo,
> should be fine, no?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> From a dev POV, it's not great to pull from one repo that has all these
>> various language bindings.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:44 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> What do you mean, pick up? Are you talking from a user's point of view
>>> about the distribution, or from a developer's POV about your workspace?
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 13 Nov 2016, at 11:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hm, on 2nd though I'm not sure if I'd want to pick up all JVM lang
>>> updates if I only care about one...
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:08 PM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
>>>>
>>>> Gary
>>>>
>>>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate
>>>> repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas
>>>> like that.
>>>> >
>>>> > Would it be a good idea to create a single repository
>>>> (logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM
>>>> languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
>>>>
>>>
>
>
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Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Ralph Goers <ra...@dslextreme.com>.
I agree. I think language bindings and any language specific plugins belong in their own repo.
Ralph
> On Nov 13, 2016, at 12:06 AM, Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Then you just have a project based on only one of the modules in the repo, should be fine, no?
>
>
>
>
>
> On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> From a dev POV, it's not great to pull from one repo that has all these various language bindings.
>
> Gary
>
>
> On Nov 12, 2016 6:44 PM, "Remko Popma" <remko.popma@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
> What do you mean, pick up? Are you talking from a user's point of view about the distribution, or from a developer's POV about your workspace?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 13 Nov 2016, at 11:10, Gary Gregory <garydgregory@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>
>> Hm, on 2nd though I'm not sure if I'd want to pick up all JVM lang updates if I only care about one...
>>
>> Gary
>>
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:08 PM, "Gary Gregory" <garydgregory@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <remko.popma@gmail.com <ma...@gmail.com>> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas like that.
>> >
>> > Would it be a good idea to create a single repository (logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
>>
>
Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>.
Then you just have a project based on only one of the modules in the repo,
should be fine, no?
On Sun, Nov 13, 2016 at 1:12 PM, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> From a dev POV, it's not great to pull from one repo that has all these
> various language bindings.
>
> Gary
>
> On Nov 12, 2016 6:44 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> What do you mean, pick up? Are you talking from a user's point of view
>> about the distribution, or from a developer's POV about your workspace?
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 13 Nov 2016, at 11:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Hm, on 2nd though I'm not sure if I'd want to pick up all JVM lang
>> updates if I only care about one...
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:08 PM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
>>>
>>> Gary
>>>
>>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate
>>> repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas
>>> like that.
>>> >
>>> > Would it be a good idea to create a single repository
>>> (logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM
>>> languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
>>>
>>
Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
From a dev POV, it's not great to pull from one repo that has all these
various language bindings.
Gary
On Nov 12, 2016 6:44 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> What do you mean, pick up? Are you talking from a user's point of view
> about the distribution, or from a developer's POV about your workspace?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
> On 13 Nov 2016, at 11:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hm, on 2nd though I'm not sure if I'd want to pick up all JVM lang updates
> if I only care about one...
>
> Gary
>
> On Nov 12, 2016 6:08 PM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate
>> repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas
>> like that.
>> >
>> > Would it be a good idea to create a single repository
>> (logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM
>> languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
>>
>
Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Remko Popma <re...@gmail.com>.
What do you mean, pick up? Are you talking from a user's point of view about the distribution, or from a developer's POV about your workspace?
Sent from my iPhone
> On 13 Nov 2016, at 11:10, Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Hm, on 2nd though I'm not sure if I'd want to pick up all JVM lang updates if I only care about one...
>
> Gary
>
>
>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:08 PM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
>>
>> Gary
>>
>> On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> >
>> > Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas like that.
>> >
>> > Would it be a good idea to create a single repository (logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
Hm, on 2nd though I'm not sure if I'd want to pick up all JVM lang updates
if I only care about one...
Gary
On Nov 12, 2016 6:08 PM, "Gary Gregory" <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
>
> Gary
>
> On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate
> repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas
> like that.
> >
> > Would it be a good idea to create a single repository
> (logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM
> languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?
>
Re: logging-log4j repositories
Posted by Gary Gregory <ga...@gmail.com>.
I like that much better... log4j-jvm instead of jvmlang I think.
Gary
On Nov 12, 2016 6:00 PM, "Remko Popma" <re...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> Looking at LOG4J2-1705, I was thinking that requiring a separate
repository for each language could increase the barrier to entry for ideas
like that.
>
> Would it be a good idea to create a single repository
(logging-log4j-jvmlang?) which would hold modules for all non-java JVM
languages, like scala, kotlin, groovy, jruby, ... ?