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Posted to dev@dubbo.apache.org by Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> on 2020/08/19 13:33:47 UTC
[Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
hello, dubbo community,
I found a new link to the microservice summit[1] on the homepage of dubbo's
website[2],
and was introduced by this commit[3].
This summit is hosted by Alibaba Cloud, so I want to know whether this
change has passed the community discussion?
[1] https://developer.aliyun.com/topic/microservices2020#/
[2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/index.html
[3]
https://github.com/apache/dubbo-website/commit/17e5e47ad666a892ad3892bd9f0b72cafc4f46c2
Thanks,
Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
Twitter: _WenMing
Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>.
Hello, community,
5 days have passed, is there any progress?
cc to iluo@apache.org, who is the Dubbo PMC chair.
Thanks,
Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
Twitter: _WenMing
Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午6:13写道：
> Hi, Jun,
> According to Apache Project Website Branding Policy[1],
> I think adding commercial company link in the main navigation bar does
> not meet the policy of the apache brand.
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
>
> Thanks,
> Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
> Twitter: _WenMing
>
>
> Jun Liu <li...@apache.org> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午2:22写道：
>
>> Hi, Ming
>>
>> I don’t think it’s a brand issue, we just want people to notice the
>> "Dubbo 3.0 topic” more easily as we just had this topic on this summit.
>> Dubbo 3.0 is considered as our next major version, so we want developers to
>> know more about it and get involved in the Roadmap[1] discuss, this submit
>> is a great chance for us to spread this concept out as it’s very likely to
>> have a wide audience in China.
>>
>> I think it doesn’t matter who is the sponsor or organizer of this summit,
>> the Dubbo 3.0 topic has been discussed in here[2]
>>
>> 1.
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r80eb7a40ae91790c7ea99cef76e2081e06de6dbdd1c33f850530b833%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
>> 2.
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r5fec24516ecf426b1653e9e953055e1989a32ce0a4ede541d674ff8f%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
>>
>> Jun
>>
>> > On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>> >
>> > hello, dubbo community,
>> > I found a new link to the microservice summit[1] on the homepage of
>> dubbo's
>> > website[2],
>> > and was introduced by this commit[3].
>> > This summit is hosted by Alibaba Cloud, so I want to know whether this
>> > change has passed the community discussion?
>> >
>> > [1] https://developer.aliyun.com/topic/microservices2020#/
>> > [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/index.html
>> > [3]
>> >
>> https://github.com/apache/dubbo-website/commit/17e5e47ad666a892ad3892bd9f0b72cafc4f46c2
>> >
>> > Thanks,
>> > Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
>> > Twitter: _WenMing
>>
>>
Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by Ian Luo <ia...@gmail.com>.
Ming,
Would you mind to quote where this action is prohibited from apache's
policy so that we can avoid the potential risk in the future?
Thanks,
-Ian.
On Wed, Aug 26, 2020 at 4:10 PM jun liu <ke...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > According to Apache Project Website Branding Policy[1],
> > I think adding commercial company link in the main navigation bar does
> not
> > meet the policy of the apache brand.
>
> I read this page before, still, I don’t see why this volatiles the Apache
> rule. I think Apache Dubbo can attend this conference and is free to put it
> in the homepage or in a blog hosted by the website. It’s an open summit
> with some open topics.
>
> Please correct me if I am wrong. BTW, I have removed the summit link from
> the website to avoid further risks before this is clear.
>
> Jun
>
> > On Aug 20, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > Hi, Jun,
> > According to Apache Project Website Branding Policy[1],
> > I think adding commercial company link in the main navigation bar does
> not
> > meet the policy of the apache brand.
> >
> > [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
> > Twitter: _WenMing
> >
> >
> > Jun Liu <li...@apache.org> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午2:22写道：
> >
> >> Hi, Ming
> >>
> >> I don’t think it’s a brand issue, we just want people to notice the
> "Dubbo
> >> 3.0 topic” more easily as we just had this topic on this summit. Dubbo
> 3.0
> >> is considered as our next major version, so we want developers to know
> more
> >> about it and get involved in the Roadmap[1] discuss, this submit is a
> great
> >> chance for us to spread this concept out as it’s very likely to have a
> wide
> >> audience in China.
> >>
> >> I think it doesn’t matter who is the sponsor or organizer of this
> summit,
> >> the Dubbo 3.0 topic has been discussed in here[2]
> >>
> >> 1.
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r80eb7a40ae91790c7ea99cef76e2081e06de6dbdd1c33f850530b833%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> >> 2.
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r5fec24516ecf426b1653e9e953055e1989a32ce0a4ede541d674ff8f%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> >>
> >> Jun
> >>
> >>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> hello, dubbo community,
> >>> I found a new link to the microservice summit[1] on the homepage of
> >> dubbo's
> >>> website[2],
> >>> and was introduced by this commit[3].
> >>> This summit is hosted by Alibaba Cloud, so I want to know whether this
> >>> change has passed the community discussion?
> >>>
> >>> [1] https://developer.aliyun.com/topic/microservices2020#/
> >>> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/index.html
> >>> [3]
> >>>
> >>
> https://github.com/apache/dubbo-website/commit/17e5e47ad666a892ad3892bd9f0b72cafc4f46c2
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
> >>> Twitter: _WenMing
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by Jun Liu <li...@apache.org>.
Please refer to below links:
http://dubbo.apache.org/zh-cn/docs/developers/contributor-guide/mailing-list-subscription-guide_dev.html <http://dubbo.apache.org/zh-cn/docs/developers/contributor-guide/mailing-list-subscription-guide_dev.html>
http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#subscribing <http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#subscribing>
请参考以下网址：
http://dubbo.apache.org/zh-cn/docs/developers/contributor-guide/mailing-list-subscription-guide_dev.html <http://dubbo.apache.org/zh-cn/docs/developers/contributor-guide/mailing-list-subscription-guide_dev.html>
http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#subscribing <http://apache.org/foundation/mailinglists.html#subscribing>
Jun
> On Aug 31, 2020, at 4:13 PM, Brooks <br...@chtrak.com> wrote:
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Re:Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
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Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by Jun Liu <li...@apache.org>.
Thanks Ming and Justin for helping make this clear.
We should be more careful about the brand issue the next time. I will move the "Dubbo 3.0 Roadmap” topic along with the summit link to the Blog column by writing up a blog.
Jun
> On Aug 27, 2020, at 6:59 AM, Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com> wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
>> I read this page before, still, I don’t see why this volatiles the Apache rule. I think Apache Dubbo can attend this conference and is free to put it in the homepage or in a blog hosted by the website. It’s an open summit with some open topics.
>
> This has been discussed a few times on various lists. In general links to 3rd parties cannot be on the front page of an Apache project and must have a no-follow attribute if they are elsewhere. If you want to do something like this check with trademarks / branding first.
>
> This may also bee useful. [1]
>
> Thanks,
> Justin
>
> 1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking
Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by Justin Mclean <ju...@classsoftware.com>.
Hi,
> I read this page before, still, I don’t see why this volatiles the Apache rule. I think Apache Dubbo can attend this conference and is free to put it in the homepage or in a blog hosted by the website. It’s an open summit with some open topics.
This has been discussed a few times on various lists. In general links to 3rd parties cannot be on the front page of an Apache project and must have a no-follow attribute if they are elsewhere. If you want to do something like this check with trademarks / branding first.
This may also bee useful. [1]
Thanks,
Justin
1. https://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/linking
Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by jun liu <ke...@gmail.com>.
> According to Apache Project Website Branding Policy[1],
> I think adding commercial company link in the main navigation bar does not
> meet the policy of the apache brand.
I read this page before, still, I don’t see why this volatiles the Apache rule. I think Apache Dubbo can attend this conference and is free to put it in the homepage or in a blog hosted by the website. It’s an open summit with some open topics.
Please correct me if I am wrong. BTW, I have removed the summit link from the website to avoid further risks before this is clear.
Jun
> On Aug 20, 2020, at 6:13 PM, Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> Hi, Jun,
> According to Apache Project Website Branding Policy[1],
> I think adding commercial company link in the main navigation bar does not
> meet the policy of the apache brand.
>
> [1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
>
> Thanks,
> Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
> Twitter: _WenMing
>
>
> Jun Liu <li...@apache.org> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午2:22写道：
>
>> Hi, Ming
>>
>> I don’t think it’s a brand issue, we just want people to notice the "Dubbo
>> 3.0 topic” more easily as we just had this topic on this summit. Dubbo 3.0
>> is considered as our next major version, so we want developers to know more
>> about it and get involved in the Roadmap[1] discuss, this submit is a great
>> chance for us to spread this concept out as it’s very likely to have a wide
>> audience in China.
>>
>> I think it doesn’t matter who is the sponsor or organizer of this summit,
>> the Dubbo 3.0 topic has been discussed in here[2]
>>
>> 1.
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r80eb7a40ae91790c7ea99cef76e2081e06de6dbdd1c33f850530b833%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
>> 2.
>> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r5fec24516ecf426b1653e9e953055e1989a32ce0a4ede541d674ff8f%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
>>
>> Jun
>>
>>> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> hello, dubbo community,
>>> I found a new link to the microservice summit[1] on the homepage of
>> dubbo's
>>> website[2],
>>> and was introduced by this commit[3].
>>> This summit is hosted by Alibaba Cloud, so I want to know whether this
>>> change has passed the community discussion?
>>>
>>> [1] https://developer.aliyun.com/topic/microservices2020#/
>>> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/index.html
>>> [3]
>>>
>> https://github.com/apache/dubbo-website/commit/17e5e47ad666a892ad3892bd9f0b72cafc4f46c2
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
>>> Twitter: _WenMing
>>
>>
Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by Ming Wen <we...@apache.org>.
Hi, Jun,
According to Apache Project Website Branding Policy[1],
I think adding commercial company link in the main navigation bar does not
meet the policy of the apache brand.
[1] http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/pmcs
Thanks,
Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
Twitter: _WenMing
Jun Liu <li...@apache.org> 于2020年8月20日周四 下午2:22写道：
> Hi, Ming
>
> I don’t think it’s a brand issue, we just want people to notice the "Dubbo
> 3.0 topic” more easily as we just had this topic on this summit. Dubbo 3.0
> is considered as our next major version, so we want developers to know more
> about it and get involved in the Roadmap[1] discuss, this submit is a great
> chance for us to spread this concept out as it’s very likely to have a wide
> audience in China.
>
> I think it doesn’t matter who is the sponsor or organizer of this summit,
> the Dubbo 3.0 topic has been discussed in here[2]
>
> 1.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r80eb7a40ae91790c7ea99cef76e2081e06de6dbdd1c33f850530b833%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
> 2.
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r5fec24516ecf426b1653e9e953055e1989a32ce0a4ede541d674ff8f%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
>
> Jun
>
> > On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> > hello, dubbo community,
> > I found a new link to the microservice summit[1] on the homepage of
> dubbo's
> > website[2],
> > and was introduced by this commit[3].
> > This summit is hosted by Alibaba Cloud, so I want to know whether this
> > change has passed the community discussion?
> >
> > [1] https://developer.aliyun.com/topic/microservices2020#/
> > [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/index.html
> > [3]
> >
> https://github.com/apache/dubbo-website/commit/17e5e47ad666a892ad3892bd9f0b72cafc4f46c2
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
> > Twitter: _WenMing
>
>
Re: [Brand issue] microservices summit link in website
Posted by Jun Liu <li...@apache.org>.
Hi, Ming
I don’t think it’s a brand issue, we just want people to notice the "Dubbo 3.0 topic” more easily as we just had this topic on this summit. Dubbo 3.0 is considered as our next major version, so we want developers to know more about it and get involved in the Roadmap[1] discuss, this submit is a great chance for us to spread this concept out as it’s very likely to have a wide audience in China.
I think it doesn’t matter who is the sponsor or organizer of this summit, the Dubbo 3.0 topic has been discussed in here[2]
1. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r80eb7a40ae91790c7ea99cef76e2081e06de6dbdd1c33f850530b833%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
2. https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/r5fec24516ecf426b1653e9e953055e1989a32ce0a4ede541d674ff8f%40%3Cdev.dubbo.apache.org%3E
Jun
> On Aug 19, 2020, at 9:33 PM, Ming Wen <we...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> hello, dubbo community,
> I found a new link to the microservice summit[1] on the homepage of dubbo's
> website[2],
> and was introduced by this commit[3].
> This summit is hosted by Alibaba Cloud, so I want to know whether this
> change has passed the community discussion?
>
> [1] https://developer.aliyun.com/topic/microservices2020#/
> [2] http://dubbo.apache.org/en-us/index.html
> [3]
> https://github.com/apache/dubbo-website/commit/17e5e47ad666a892ad3892bd9f0b72cafc4f46c2
>
> Thanks,
> Ming Wen, Apache APISIX & Apache SkyWalking
> Twitter: _WenMing