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[jira] Closed: (INFRA-549) Please create a virtual list for forrest and lenya
[ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-549?page=all ]
Roy T. Fielding closed INFRA-549:
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Resolution: Won't Fix
As Nicola said: "Basically it's an automatic and transparent cross-posting."
It would not be easy to set up -- it would require disabling the subscriber-only
posting for both lists and open them up for megaspam. It is far easier to simply
cross-post the few messages that are actually applicable to both groups.
If one of the projects wants to set up a single lefo list (no need for two),
then please request that as a new issue. People can then choose to
subscribe to that list if they want to participate in the overlap.
....Roy
> Please create a virtual list for forrest and lenya
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> Key: INFRA-549
> URL: http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-549
> Project: Infrastructure
> Type: Task
> Components: Mailing Lists
> Reporter: Thorsten Scherler
>
> I would like to ask whether it is possible to create a virtual list for
> forrest and lenya. Like described in
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?t=112004132700001&r=1&w=2
> "If we make a virtual list (which I prefer) that posts mails on both
> developer lists with added [lefo] in the subject, then each PMC will be
> responsible for their dev list, as is now."
> http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=forrest-dev&m=112013695014297&w=2
> It should work like in the following scenario:
> "subsciberName.at.domain.com sends mail to lefo.at.apache.org.
> 1) lefo.at.apache.org is subscribed to dev.at.forrest.apache.org and
> dev.at.lenya.apache.org and posts (fowards) all mails to both list.
> 2) Ideally it will add [lefo] to the subject line.
> 3) The lefo list will set the reply-to header to itself, so that all
> replies go to both lists again."
> Here is what I did/would have done (I did not have permissions for doing
> it myself and I prefer that the infrastructure team gives green
> lights). ;-) BTW how can I get rights to help here on infrastructure?
> I logged in to minotaur and 'cd /var/qmail/alias/'.
> Then I 'cat .qmail-committers'. This file is responsible to mail all
> committers at apache if somebody sends a mail to
> committers.at.apache.org. It is doing this with a piped command.
> I reckon the following commands would create the correct .qmail-lefo
> and .qmail-lefo-commits:
> echo "| /var/qmail/bin/forward lenya-dev forrest-dev">.qmail-lefo
> echo "| /var/qmail/bin/forward lenya-commits
> forrest-svn">.qmail-lefo-commits
> That would be sufficient for 1), if I understood the above mentioned
> README right:
> "Yes, this also means that
> bar-foo@apache.org
> is going to be the same as
> foo@bar.apache.org"
> So I just tried further this beautiful README. I started with
> > sudo -H -u apmail tcsh
> Password:
> thorsten is not in the sudoers file. This incident will be reported.
> Ok, I do not have permissions. ;-)
> The command that I wanted to invoke afterward is (replace .at. with @):
> /home/apmail/bin/makelist.roy.sh -m thorsten.at.apache.org lefo
> lefo-commits
> Following http://www.ezmlm.org/ezman/ezman3.html#ss3.7 "Adding a subject
> prefix to messages" I would have then
> "...just place the text in the file DIR/prefix." where the text would be
> [lefo]. This would do 2) from the scenario.
> The last step 3) I would have done with
> http://www.ezmlm.org/faq/FAQ-9.html#ss9.8 "put ``reply-to'' into
> DIR/headerremove, and ``Reply-To: list@host.dom'' into DIR/headeradd."
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Re: [jira] Closed: (INFRA-549) Please create a virtual list for
forrest and lenya
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 08:21 +0200, Roy T. Fielding (JIRA) wrote:
> [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-549?page=all ]
>
> Roy T. Fielding closed INFRA-549:
> ---------------------------------
>
> Resolution: Won't Fix
>
> As Nicola said: "Basically it's an automatic and transparent
> cross-posting."
>
> It would not be easy to set up -- it would require disabling the
> subscriber-only
> posting for both lists and open them up for megaspam.
Hmm, why do you think it requires disabling the subscriber only posting?
Any poster that want to post to the list has to be subscribed too. He
only do not get mail from it directly.
People would have to subscribe to the list before posting but never
receive mail only by subscribing to forrest-dev or lenya-dev, is that
not possible?
> It is far easier to simply
> cross-post the few messages that are actually applicable to both
> groups.
That should be done by this list to simplify the process. Is it not a
simple foreword like in:
cd /var/qmail/alias/
echo "| /var/qmail/bin/forward lenya-dev forrest-dev">.qmail-lefo
That would exclude all subscriber. Mails only go to both lists.
> If one of the projects wants to set up a single lefo list (no need for
> two),
> then please request that as a new issue. People can then choose to
> subscribe to that list if they want to participate in the overlap.
>
Can both projects request such a list or has it to be *one* of the
projects?
Can we then implement to forward all messages written to this list by
only forwarding to both mailing lists instead of the subscriber?
salu2
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)
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Re: [jira] Closed: (INFRA-549) Please create a virtual list for
forrest and lenya
Posted by Thorsten Scherler <th...@apache.org>.
On Sat, 2005-09-10 at 08:21 +0200, Roy T. Fielding (JIRA) wrote:
> [ http://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-549?page=all ]
>
> Roy T. Fielding closed INFRA-549:
> ---------------------------------
>
> Resolution: Won't Fix
>
> As Nicola said: "Basically it's an automatic and transparent
> cross-posting."
>
> It would not be easy to set up -- it would require disabling the
> subscriber-only
> posting for both lists and open them up for megaspam.
Hmm, why do you think it requires disabling the subscriber only posting?
Any poster that want to post to the list has to be subscribed too. He
only do not get mail from it directly.
People would have to subscribe to the list before posting but never
receive mail only by subscribing to forrest-dev or lenya-dev, is that
not possible?
> It is far easier to simply
> cross-post the few messages that are actually applicable to both
> groups.
That should be done by this list to simplify the process. Is it not a
simple foreword like in:
cd /var/qmail/alias/
echo "| /var/qmail/bin/forward lenya-dev forrest-dev">.qmail-lefo
That would exclude all subscriber. Mails only go to both lists.
> If one of the projects wants to set up a single lefo list (no need for
> two),
> then please request that as a new issue. People can then choose to
> subscribe to that list if they want to participate in the overlap.
>
Can both projects request such a list or has it to be *one* of the
projects?
Can we then implement to forward all messages written to this list by
only forwarding to both mailing lists instead of the subscriber?
salu2
thorsten
"Together we stand, divided we fall!"
Hey you (Pink Floyd)