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[HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Hi all,
the HttpAsync component has no home in JIRA yet. I've assigned previous
issues to HttpClient 4.0, but I think we should introduce at least a
separate component, if not project. Since the future role of HttpAsync
within HttpComponents is yet unclear, I have no preference for either.
What do you think?
cheers,
Roland
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 2006-06-25 at 16:33 +0200, Roland Weber wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
> HttpComponents Async is not listed in the "Jakarta" category. The manual at
> http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/docs/v3.5.3/project_management.html
> shows a "select category" link in the "Project Category:" line of the screen-
> shot, but that link is not available when I visit the administration page:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/project/ViewProject.jspa?pid=12310504
>
> Can you add the category?
>
Taken care of.
Oleg
> cheers and thanks,
> Roland
>
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Hi Oleg,
HttpComponents Async is not listed in the "Jakarta" category. The manual at
http://www.atlassian.com/software/jira/docs/v3.5.3/project_management.html
shows a "select category" link in the "Project Category:" line of the screen-
shot, but that link is not available when I visit the administration page:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/project/ViewProject.jspa?pid=12310504
Can you add the category?
cheers and thanks,
Roland
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Hi Oleg,
> I have added your account to the jakarta-administrators group. Please
> try it again
Works now. Thanks.
I'll add some stuff over the weekend.
I have to visit a friend's birthday party today :-)
cheers,
Roland
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Fri, 2006-06-23 at 21:12 +0200, Roland Weber wrote:
> Update: I've been able to get to the "ViewProject" page, though it is
> not shown in the navigation. Operation "view all projects" displays:
>
> > You do not have the permissions to administer any projects, or there are
> none created.
>
> cheers,
> Roland
>
Roland,
I have added your account to the jakarta-administrators group. Please
try it again
Oleg
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Update: I've been able to get to the "ViewProject" page, though it is
not shown in the navigation. Operation "view all projects" displays:
> You do not have the permissions to administer any projects, or there are
none created.
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Hi Oleg,
> Done.
Thanks!
> Roland, please go ahead and add project components and versions
>
> http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/project/ViewProject.jspa?pid=12310504
The link gives me "Access Denied" from JIRA (not from the HTTP server).
Browsing the project manually shows only "issue" stuff, but nothing
to create components or versions. Do I need to become an administrator?
cheers,
Roland
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
Done. Roland, please go ahead and add project components and versions
http://issues.apache.org/jira/secure/project/ViewProject.jspa?pid=12310504
Oleg
On Tue, 2006-06-20 at 20:36 -0700, Michael Becke wrote:
> Works for me.
>
> Mike
>
> On 6/19/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> > On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 16:15 +0200, Roland Weber wrote:
> > > Hi Oleg,
> > >
> > ...
> > > I am strongly in favor of having separate release cycles for
> > > HttpClient and HttpAsync. Here are some reasons:
> > >
> > > HttpClient has a more steady development cycle. I'm working
> > > on HttpAsync only in short, intensive bursts every few months.
> > > At least as far as coding is concerned. My job can require
> > > customer related travel on short notice. Since my development
> > > environment is not portable, I can't work on HttpAsync during
> > > the week at such times, and I might need the weekends to take
> > > care of other things. I'd hate to be the reason why a combined
> > > release is late.
> > >
> > > I expect HttpClient to reach both alpha and beta stage long
> > > before HttpAsync does. In particular the API freeze with the
> > > beta is an issue here. There is no point in freezing the
> > > HttpAsync API prematurely, nor in delaying the HttpClient
> > > API freeze because of HttpAsync. While the async interfaces may
> > > stabilize quite fast, the API includes more than just those.
> > >
> > > I expect HttpAsync to initially be buggier (or less stable).
> > > At the same time, it appeals to a much smaller community.
> > > I don't want to cut a new release for full HttpClient just to
> > > have some bugs fixed or features added for the HttpAsync users.
> > >
> >
> > Sounds reasonable. If I get a nod from Odi and Mike and no one else
> > raises an objection I'll go ahead and set up a Jira project for
> > HttpAsync
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> > Oleg
> >
> >
> > >
> > > cheers,
> > > Roland
> > >
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com>.
Works for me.
Mike
On 6/19/06, Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 16:15 +0200, Roland Weber wrote:
> > Hi Oleg,
> >
> ...
> > I am strongly in favor of having separate release cycles for
> > HttpClient and HttpAsync. Here are some reasons:
> >
> > HttpClient has a more steady development cycle. I'm working
> > on HttpAsync only in short, intensive bursts every few months.
> > At least as far as coding is concerned. My job can require
> > customer related travel on short notice. Since my development
> > environment is not portable, I can't work on HttpAsync during
> > the week at such times, and I might need the weekends to take
> > care of other things. I'd hate to be the reason why a combined
> > release is late.
> >
> > I expect HttpClient to reach both alpha and beta stage long
> > before HttpAsync does. In particular the API freeze with the
> > beta is an issue here. There is no point in freezing the
> > HttpAsync API prematurely, nor in delaying the HttpClient
> > API freeze because of HttpAsync. While the async interfaces may
> > stabilize quite fast, the API includes more than just those.
> >
> > I expect HttpAsync to initially be buggier (or less stable).
> > At the same time, it appeals to a much smaller community.
> > I don't want to cut a new release for full HttpClient just to
> > have some bugs fixed or features added for the HttpAsync users.
> >
>
> Sounds reasonable. If I get a nod from Odi and Mike and no one else
> raises an objection I'll go ahead and set up a Jira project for
> HttpAsync
>
> Cheers
>
> Oleg
>
>
> >
> > cheers,
> > Roland
> >
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Mon, 2006-06-19 at 16:15 +0200, Roland Weber wrote:
> Hi Oleg,
>
...
> I am strongly in favor of having separate release cycles for
> HttpClient and HttpAsync. Here are some reasons:
>
> HttpClient has a more steady development cycle. I'm working
> on HttpAsync only in short, intensive bursts every few months.
> At least as far as coding is concerned. My job can require
> customer related travel on short notice. Since my development
> environment is not portable, I can't work on HttpAsync during
> the week at such times, and I might need the weekends to take
> care of other things. I'd hate to be the reason why a combined
> release is late.
>
> I expect HttpClient to reach both alpha and beta stage long
> before HttpAsync does. In particular the API freeze with the
> beta is an issue here. There is no point in freezing the
> HttpAsync API prematurely, nor in delaying the HttpClient
> API freeze because of HttpAsync. While the async interfaces may
> stabilize quite fast, the API includes more than just those.
>
> I expect HttpAsync to initially be buggier (or less stable).
> At the same time, it appeals to a much smaller community.
> I don't want to cut a new release for full HttpClient just to
> have some bugs fixed or features added for the HttpAsync users.
>
Sounds reasonable. If I get a nod from Odi and Mike and no one else
raises an objection I'll go ahead and set up a Jira project for
HttpAsync
Cheers
Oleg
>
> cheers,
> Roland
>
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net>.
Hi Oleg,
> Both HttpCore and HttpAsync are being developed within the
> HttpComponents project along with other components and I see no reason
> for changing that. The trouble is that Jira requires a separate
> "project" per a versioned artifact.
Thanks for the reminder. I knew there was a reason :-)
> Therefore there is no way around
> creating a new project in Jira for HttpAsync if we want to be able to
> release separately from other components. It is still open for
> discussion whether HttpAsync should have its own release cycle or
> whether it should be released along with HttpClient.
I am strongly in favor of having separate release cycles for
HttpClient and HttpAsync. Here are some reasons:
HttpClient has a more steady development cycle. I'm working
on HttpAsync only in short, intensive bursts every few months.
At least as far as coding is concerned. My job can require
customer related travel on short notice. Since my development
environment is not portable, I can't work on HttpAsync during
the week at such times, and I might need the weekends to take
care of other things. I'd hate to be the reason why a combined
release is late.
I expect HttpClient to reach both alpha and beta stage long
before HttpAsync does. In particular the API freeze with the
beta is an issue here. There is no point in freezing the
HttpAsync API prematurely, nor in delaying the HttpClient
API freeze because of HttpAsync. While the async interfaces may
stabilize quite fast, the API includes more than just those.
I expect HttpAsync to initially be buggier (or less stable).
At the same time, it appeals to a much smaller community.
I don't want to cut a new release for full HttpClient just to
have some bugs fixed or features added for the HttpAsync users.
cheers,
Roland
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Oleg Kalnichevski <ol...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 2006-06-18 at 13:03 -0700, Michael Becke wrote:
> I forget the history here, but I'm thinking everything should probably
> just be components under Jakarta HttpComponents. HttpCore has a
> separate project, but perhaps it should just become a component under
> HttpClient and then HttpClient should just be HttpComponents.
>
> Mike
>
Mike,
Both HttpCore and HttpAsync are being developed within the
HttpComponents project along with other components and I see no reason
for changing that. The trouble is that Jira requires a separate
"project" per a versioned artifact. Therefore there is no way around
creating a new project in Jira for HttpAsync if we want to be able to
release separately from other components. It is still open for
discussion whether HttpAsync should have its own release cycle or
whether it should be released along with HttpClient.
Does that make sense?
Oleg
> On 6/18/06, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> > Hi all,
> >
> > the HttpAsync component has no home in JIRA yet. I've assigned previous
> > issues to HttpClient 4.0, but I think we should introduce at least a
> > separate component, if not project. Since the future role of HttpAsync
> > within HttpComponents is yet unclear, I have no preference for either.
> >
> > What do you think?
> >
> > cheers,
> > Roland
> >
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Re: [HttpAsync] http-async in JIRA
Posted by Michael Becke <mb...@gmail.com>.
I forget the history here, but I'm thinking everything should probably
just be components under Jakarta HttpComponents. HttpCore has a
separate project, but perhaps it should just become a component under
HttpClient and then HttpClient should just be HttpComponents.
Mike
On 6/18/06, Roland Weber <ht...@dubioso.net> wrote:
> Hi all,
>
> the HttpAsync component has no home in JIRA yet. I've assigned previous
> issues to HttpClient 4.0, but I think we should introduce at least a
> separate component, if not project. Since the future role of HttpAsync
> within HttpComponents is yet unclear, I have no preference for either.
>
> What do you think?
>
> cheers,
> Roland
>
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