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Posted to general@incubator.apache.org by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> on 2013/09/13 02:10:13 UTC
[DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Hi Folks,
Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
website :-) ).
https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
project.
So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
Cheers
--
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Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
txs, fine for me.
LieGrue,
strub
----- Original Message -----
> From: Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> To: "general@incubator.apache.org" <ge...@incubator.apache.org>; Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>
> Cc:
> Sent: Saturday, 14 September 2013, 15:00
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>
> Hi
>
> Tammo/Mark I have added you as mentor.
> Let us know if it's the role you want to have?
>
> On 14 September 2013 18:18, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>> I'm in.
>>
>> +1
>>
>> LieGrue,
>> strub
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>> Cc:
>>> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:29
>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
>>> (Olivier spoke about it first)
>>> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen"
>>> <tv...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Romain,
>>>>
>>>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked
> to the
>>>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e.
> it is not
>>>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
> librato et
>>>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2.
> Persistence
>>>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage
> (similar to
>>>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tammo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>> > Hi
>>>> >
>>>> > basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
>>>> > 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
>>>> > 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
>>>> > 3) we will handle aggregation
>>>> > and hopefully much more ;)
>>>> >
>>>> > Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache
> project
>>>> > (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> >
>>>> > 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
>>>> > > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related
> to other
>>> metrics
>>>> > > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a
> similar
>>> scope?
>>>> > >
>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>> > > Tammo
>>>> > >
>>>> > > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy
>>> <ol...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> > >
>>>> > >> Hi Folks,
>>>> > >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project
> called Apache
>>>> > >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I
> imagine few
>>> people
>>>> > >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use
>>> monitoring.a.o as
>>>> > >> website :-) ).
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons
> Sandbox but as
>>> the code
>>>> > >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to
> have a
>>> separate
>>>> > >> project.
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >> Cheers
>>>> > >> --
>>>> > >> Olivier Lamy
>>>> > >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>> > >> http://twitter.com/olamy |
> http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>> > >>
>>>> > >>
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>>>> > >>
>>>> > >
>>>> > >
>>>> > > --
>>>> > > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>>>> >
>>>> >
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>>>>
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>>>>
>>>
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>
>
> --
> Olivier Lamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Am 15.09.13 14:12, schrieb Tammo van Lessen:
> Thanks. Mentor would be fine with me, but I'm not sure if I'm eligible. I'm
> Apache Member but not IPMC member.
As a member you can join by requesting IPMC membership.
You should to that, if you would like to mentor
>
>
> On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi
>>
>> Tammo/Mark I have added you as mentor.
>> Let us know if it's the role you want to have?
>>
>> On 14 September 2013 18:18, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
>>> I'm in.
>>>
>>> +1
>>>
>>> LieGrue,
>>> strub
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>>>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>>>> Cc:
>>>> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:29
>>>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
>>>> (Olivier spoke about it first)
>>>> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen"
>>>> <tv...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Romain,
>>>>>
>>>>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to
>> the
>>>>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is
>> not
>>>>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
>> librato et
>>>>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2.
>> Persistence
>>>>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
>>>>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> > Hi
>>>>> >
>>>>> > basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
>>>>> > 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
>>>>> > 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
>>>>> > 3) we will handle aggregation
>>>>> > and hopefully much more ;)
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
>>>>> > (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>>> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>>> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>>> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>> > 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
>>>>> > > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other
>>>> metrics
>>>>> > > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar
>>>> scope?
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > Thanks,
>>>>> > > Tammo
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy
>>>> <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >> Hi Folks,
>>>>> > >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>>>>> > >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few
>>>> people
>>>>> > >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use
>>>> monitoring.a.o as
>>>>> > >> website :-) ).
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as
>>>> the code
>>>>> > >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a
>>>> separate
>>>>> > >> project.
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >> Cheers
>>>>> > >> --
>>>>> > >> Olivier Lamy
>>>>> > >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>> > >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
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>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >>
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > >
>>>>> > > --
>>>>> > > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>>>>> >
>>>>> >
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>>>>> >
>>>>> >
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>
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>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier Lamy
>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Thanks. Mentor would be fine with me, but I'm not sure if I'm eligible. I'm
Apache Member but not IPMC member.
On Sat, Sep 14, 2013 at 3:00 PM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi
>
> Tammo/Mark I have added you as mentor.
> Let us know if it's the role you want to have?
>
> On 14 September 2013 18:18, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > I'm in.
> >
> > +1
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:29
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
> >> (Olivier spoke about it first)
> >> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen"
> >> <tv...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> >>
> >>> Hi Romain,
> >>>
> >>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to
> the
> >>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is
> not
> >>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
> librato et
> >>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2.
> Persistence
> >>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
> >>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
> >>>
> >>> Thanks,
> >>> Tammo
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>
> >>> > Hi
> >>> >
> >>> > basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> >>> > 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> >>> > 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> >>> > 3) we will handle aggregation
> >>> > and hopefully much more ;)
> >>> >
> >>> > Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> >>> > (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >>> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >>> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >>> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>> > 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> >>> > > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other
> >> metrics
> >>> > > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar
> >> scope?
> >>> > >
> >>> > > Thanks,
> >>> > > Tammo
> >>> > >
> >>> > > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy
> >> <ol...@apache.org>
> >>> wrote:
> >>> > >
> >>> > >> Hi Folks,
> >>> > >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> >>> > >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few
> >> people
> >>> > >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use
> >> monitoring.a.o as
> >>> > >> website :-) ).
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as
> >> the code
> >>> > >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a
> >> separate
> >>> > >> project.
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >> Cheers
> >>> > >> --
> >>> > >> Olivier Lamy
> >>> > >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >>> > >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> >>> > >>
> >>> > >>
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> >>> > >>
> >>> > >
> >>> > >
> >>> > > --
> >>> > > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
> >>> >
> >>> >
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> >>> >
> >>> >
> >>>
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>
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>
>
> --
> Olivier Lamy
> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
Hi
Tammo/Mark I have added you as mentor.
Let us know if it's the role you want to have?
On 14 September 2013 18:18, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> I'm in.
>
> +1
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:29
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
>> (Olivier spoke about it first)
>> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen"
>> <tv...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>>> Hi Romain,
>>>
>>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the
>>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not
>>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite, librato et
>>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persistence
>>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
>>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>> Tammo
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>
>>> > Hi
>>> >
>>> > basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
>>> > 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
>>> > 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
>>> > 3) we will handle aggregation
>>> > and hopefully much more ;)
>>> >
>>> > Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
>>> > (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>> >
>>> >
>>> >
>>> > 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
>>> > > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other
>> metrics
>>> > > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar
>> scope?
>>> > >
>>> > > Thanks,
>>> > > Tammo
>>> > >
>>> > > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy
>> <ol...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>> > >
>>> > >> Hi Folks,
>>> > >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>>> > >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few
>> people
>>> > >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use
>> monitoring.a.o as
>>> > >> website :-) ).
>>> > >>
>>> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>> > >>
>>> > >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as
>> the code
>>> > >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a
>> separate
>>> > >> project.
>>> > >>
>>> > >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>> > >>
>>> > >> Cheers
>>> > >> --
>>> > >> Olivier Lamy
>>> > >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>> > >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>> > >>
>>> > >>
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>>> > >>
>>> > >>
>>> > >
>>> > >
>>> > > --
>>> > > Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>>> >
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>>> >
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Tammo van Lessen - http://www.taval.de
>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
I'm in.
+1
LieGrue,
strub
----- Original Message -----
> From: Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Friday, 13 September 2013, 21:29
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>
> Hi
>
> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
> (Olivier spoke about it first)
> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen"
> <tv...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Romain,
>>
>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the
>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not
>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite, librato et
>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persistence
>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tammo
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>> > Hi
>> >
>> > basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
>> > 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
>> > 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
>> > 3) we will handle aggregation
>> > and hopefully much more ;)
>> >
>> > Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
>> > (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > Romain Manni-Bucau
>> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
>> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>> >
>> >
>> >
>> > 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
>> > > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other
> metrics
>> > > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar
> scope?
>> > >
>> > > Thanks,
>> > > Tammo
>> > >
>> > > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy
> <ol...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Hi Folks,
>> > >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>> > >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few
> people
>> > >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use
> monitoring.a.o as
>> > >> website :-) ).
>> > >>
>> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>> > >>
>> > >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as
> the code
>> > >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a
> separate
>> > >> project.
>> > >>
>> > >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>> > >>
>> > >> Cheers
>> > >> --
>> > >> Olivier Lamy
>> > >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>> > >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>> > >>
>> > >>
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>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > --
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
I saw both and in particular plain text or html (i was surprised too), the
robot was not parsing anything
Le 15 sept. 2013 18:03, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Am 15.09.13 15:56, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> > Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl) too
> ;).
>
> they surely prefer something like JSON instead of raw html?
>
> > But im not so extremist that i looked :p
>
> Good to hear :-)
>
> > Le 15 sept. 2013 15:53, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >> Am 15.09.13 15:35, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without
> js.
> >> In
> >>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
> >>> want and well use ;)
> >>
> >> Without JS in 2013? There is definitely a need to discuss this! :-)
> >> Let's do so when there is a mailing list.
> >>
> >> Cheers!
> >>
> >>> Le 15 sept. 2013 15:29, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
> >>> écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Great proposal.
> >>>>
> >>>> You have already enough mentors, otherwise I would step up as one.
> >>>>
> >>>> Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> >>>>> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
> >>>>> (Olivier spoke about it first)
> >>>>
> >>>> Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help with the
> >>>> GUI stuff. I would like to see such a gui myself, preferrably build
> with
> >>>> AngularJS.
> >>>>
> >>>> If you don't mind about my yet unclear time situation, you can count
> me
> >>>> in as initial committer.
> >>>>
> >>>>> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> a
> >>>> écrit :
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Romain,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to
> >> the
> >>>>>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is
> >> not
> >>>>>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
> >>>> librato et
> >>>>>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2.
> >> Persistence
> >>>>>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar
> to
> >>>>>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> >>>>>>> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> >>>>>>> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> >>>>>>> 3) we will handle aggregation
> >>>>>>> and hopefully much more ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> >>>>>>> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >>>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >>>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>>>> Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other
> metrics
> >>>>>>>> libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>>>>>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> >>>>>>>>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few
> people
> >>>>>>>>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> >>>>>>>>> website :-) ).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the
> >>>> code
> >>>>>>>>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> >>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
> >>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Am 15.09.13 15:56, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl) too ;).
they surely prefer something like JSON instead of raw html?
> But im not so extremist that i looked :p
Good to hear :-)
> Le 15 sept. 2013 15:53, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Am 15.09.13 15:35, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js.
>> In
>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
>>> want and well use ;)
>>
>> Without JS in 2013? There is definitely a need to discuss this! :-)
>> Let's do so when there is a mailing list.
>>
>> Cheers!
>>
>>> Le 15 sept. 2013 15:29, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
>>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Great proposal.
>>>>
>>>> You have already enough mentors, otherwise I would step up as one.
>>>>
>>>> Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
>>>>> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
>>>>> (Olivier spoke about it first)
>>>>
>>>> Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help with the
>>>> GUI stuff. I would like to see such a gui myself, preferrably build with
>>>> AngularJS.
>>>>
>>>> If you don't mind about my yet unclear time situation, you can count me
>>>> in as initial committer.
>>>>
>>>>> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> a
>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi Romain,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to
>> the
>>>>>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is
>> not
>>>>>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
>>>> librato et
>>>>>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2.
>> Persistence
>>>>>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
>>>>>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
>>>>>>> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
>>>>>>> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
>>>>>>> 3) we will handle aggregation
>>>>>>> and hopefully much more ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
>>>>>>> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>>>> Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
>>>>>>>> libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>>>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>>>>>>>>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
>>>>>>>>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
>>>>>>>>> website :-) ).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the
>>>> code
>>>>>>>>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Sure, keep in mind monitoring interfaces are used by robots (curl) too ;).
But im not so extremist that i looked :p
Le 15 sept. 2013 15:53, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Am 15.09.13 15:35, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> > Hi
> >
> > Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js.
> In
> > all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
> > want and well use ;)
>
> Without JS in 2013? There is definitely a need to discuss this! :-)
> Let's do so when there is a mailing list.
>
> Cheers!
>
> > Le 15 sept. 2013 15:29, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
> > écrit :
> >
> >> Great proposal.
> >>
> >> You have already enough mentors, otherwise I would step up as one.
> >>
> >> Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> >>> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
> >>> (Olivier spoke about it first)
> >>
> >> Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help with the
> >> GUI stuff. I would like to see such a gui myself, preferrably build with
> >> AngularJS.
> >>
> >> If you don't mind about my yet unclear time situation, you can count me
> >> in as initial committer.
> >>
> >>> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> a
> >> écrit :
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Romain,
> >>>>
> >>>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to
> the
> >>>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is
> not
> >>>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
> >> librato et
> >>>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2.
> Persistence
> >>>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
> >>>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Tammo
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi
> >>>>>
> >>>>> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> >>>>> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> >>>>> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> >>>>> 3) we will handle aggregation
> >>>>> and hopefully much more ;)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> >>>>> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> >>>>>> Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
> >>>>>> libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Thanks,
> >>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>>>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> >>>>>>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> >>>>>>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> >>>>>>> website :-) ).
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the
> >> code
> >>>>>>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> >>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
> >>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> >>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Am 15.09.13 15:35, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> Hi
>
> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js. In
> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
> want and well use ;)
Without JS in 2013? There is definitely a need to discuss this! :-)
Let's do so when there is a mailing list.
Cheers!
> Le 15 sept. 2013 15:29, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
>
>> Great proposal.
>>
>> You have already enough mentors, otherwise I would step up as one.
>>
>> Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
>>> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
>>> (Olivier spoke about it first)
>>
>> Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help with the
>> GUI stuff. I would like to see such a gui myself, preferrably build with
>> AngularJS.
>>
>> If you don't mind about my yet unclear time situation, you can count me
>> in as initial committer.
>>
>>> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> a
>> écrit :
>>>
>>>> Hi Romain,
>>>>
>>>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the
>>>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not
>>>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
>> librato et
>>>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persistence
>>>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
>>>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tammo
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
>>>>> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
>>>>> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
>>>>> 3) we will handle aggregation
>>>>> and hopefully much more ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
>>>>> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
>>>>>> Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
>>>>>> libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>>>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>>>>>>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
>>>>>>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
>>>>>>> website :-) ).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the
>> code
>>>>>>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>
>>>>
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>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
I like it!
+1
JLouis
2013/10/2 Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> +1
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>
>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>> Any objections?
>>
>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
>>> stands
>>> for. But I like its sound.
>>>
>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
>>> used
>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>>
>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/**celtic.htm<http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm>
>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>>
>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>>> monitoring.
>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/**de/merlin/<http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/>
>>>
>>> I believe we currently have:
>>>
>>> Apache Leitstand
>>> Apache Nechtan
>>> Apache Merlin
>>> Apache Sirona
>>> Apache Heimdall
>>> Apache Dagr
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>
>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to
>>>> the
>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
>>>> good
>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
>>>>> is
>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was
>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>>
>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
>>>>> myths
>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
>>>>> heaven.
>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
>>>>>> we'd
>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
>>>>>>>> grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/****foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>> <h**ttp://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would
>>>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more
>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
>>>>>>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/******Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <http://de.**wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>> **>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>> <http://de.**wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org
>>>>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
It works for me.
Regards
JB
On 10/02/2013 10:19 AM, Mark Struberg wrote:
> -1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :(
> There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many of them in the software area
>
>
>
> +1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for any software related product so far.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>>> Any objections?
>>>
>>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on
>> the english
>>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
>> stands
>>>> for. But I like its sound.
>>>>
>>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring
>> is
>>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However,
>> Sirona is used
>>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>>>
>>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>>>
>>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>>>> monitoring.
>>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>>>>
>>>> I believe we currently have:
>>>>
>>>> Apache Leitstand
>>>> Apache Nechtan
>>>> Apache Merlin
>>>> Apache Sirona
>>>> Apache Heimdall
>>>> Apache Dagr
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache
>> Nechtan" due to
>>>>> the
>>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am
>> not good
>>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with
>> Heimdall, who
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more
>> known because he was
>>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server
>> ;-)
>>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames:
>> Heimdall was
>>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when
>> danger
>>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the
>> end of our
>>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the
>> tool
>>>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for
>> "Day". In old myths
>>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi
>> through heaven.
>>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
>> imagine
>>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our
>> applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology.
>> Its so
>>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the
>> similarity to Apache
>>>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already
>> very much a
>>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be
>> avoided, we'd
>>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy"
>> <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then
>> change the name for
>>>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we
>> start the process
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add
>> a few comments
>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a
>> company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not
>> find any repositories
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is
>> usually something were you
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so
>> on). Monitoring would be
>>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it
>> expresses things well
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot
>> of people use that
>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we
>> need to check this more in
>>>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the
>> best catch from a
>>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that
>> meaning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons
>> monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste
>> Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand"
>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van
>> Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already,
>> I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I
>> think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of
>> course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the
>> case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM,
>> Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested
>> folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote
>> I'd like to find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed
>> "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this
>> proposition looks to be rude for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions,
>> it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25,
>> Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb
>> "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i
>> hope well keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least
>> a thread on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that
>> discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even
>> http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy |
>> http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
No worries.
I got few kids so I know how it can be hard and long to find the good
name and have all agree on it :-)
On 7 October 2013 22:26, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Thanks a lot Olivier
>
>
> On 7 Oct 2013, at 1:26, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>
>> Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal
>> I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote.
>>
>>
>> On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> +1 for Sirona
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> +1, sounds good
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>>>>> Any objections?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>>>>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
>>>>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
>>>>>
>>>>> stands
>>>>>>
>>>>>> for. But I like its sound.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
>>>>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona
>>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>> used
>>>>>>
>>>>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>>>>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>>>>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>>>>>> monitoring.
>>>>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>>>>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I believe we currently have:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Apache Leitstand
>>>>>> Apache Nechtan
>>>>>> Apache Merlin
>>>>>> Apache Sirona
>>>>>> Apache Heimdall
>>>>>> Apache Dagr
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due
>>>>
>>>> to
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
>>>>>
>>>>> good
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>>>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall,
>>>>
>>>> who
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
>>>>
>>>> was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>>>>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall
>>>>
>>>> was
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>>>>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of
>>>>
>>>> our
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>>>>>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
>>>>>
>>>>> myths
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
>>>>>
>>>>> heaven.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
>>>>
>>>> imagine
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>>>>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>>>>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>>>>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
>>>>>
>>>>> we'd
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
>>>>>
>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
>>>>>
>>>>> grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
>>>>>
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>>>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a
>>>>>>>>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any
>>>>
>>>> repositories
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were
>>>>
>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
>>>>
>>>> would
>>>>>
>>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things
>>>>
>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use
>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this
>>>>
>>>> more
>>>>>
>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
>>>>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and
>>>>
>>>> closer
>>>>>
>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache
>>>>
>>>> Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
>>>>>
>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>
>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
>>>>>
>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
>>>>>
>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
>>>>>
>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <
>>>>
>>>> olamy@apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name
>>>>
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude
>>>>
>>>> for
>>>>>
>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility
>>>>
>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about
>>>>
>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer
>>>>
>>>> progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org
>>>>
>>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Thanks a lot Olivier
On 7 Oct 2013, at 1:26, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal
> I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote.
>
>
> On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>> +1 for Sirona
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <pa...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> +1, sounds good
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>>>> Any objections?
>>>>
>>>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier
>>>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>>>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the
>>>>> english
>>>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what
>>>>> Nechtan
>>>> stands
>>>>> for. But I like its sound.
>>>>>
>>>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
>>>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However,
>>>>> Sirona is
>>>> used
>>>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>>>>
>>>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>>>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>>>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>>>>
>>>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related
>>>>> to
>>>>> monitoring.
>>>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>>>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>>>>>
>>>>> I believe we currently have:
>>>>>
>>>>> Apache Leitstand
>>>>> Apache Nechtan
>>>>> Apache Merlin
>>>>> Apache Sirona
>>>>> Apache Heimdall
>>>>> Apache Dagr
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan"
>>>>>> due
>>> to
>>>>>> the
>>>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am
>>>>>> not
>>>> good
>>>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way
>>>>>> cooler
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with
>>>>>>> Heimdall,
>>> who
>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known
>>>>>>> because he
>>> was
>>>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server
>>>>>>> ;-)
>>>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames:
>>>>>>> Heimdall
>>> was
>>>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when
>>>>>>> danger
>>>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the
>>>>>>> end of
>>> our
>>>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the
>>>>>>> tool
>>>>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In
>>>>>>> old
>>>> myths
>>>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
>>>> heaven.
>>>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
>>> imagine
>>>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our
>>>>>>> applications.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology.
>>>>>>> Its so
>>>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to
>>>>>>>>> Apache
>>>>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very
>>>>>>>> much a
>>>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be
>>>>>>>> avoided,
>>>> we'd
>>>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the
>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
>>>> grobmeier@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the
>>>>>>>>>>> process
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few
>>>>>>>>>>> comments
>>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a
>>>>>>>>>>> trademarks
>>>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any
>>> repositories
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something
>>>>>>>>>>> were
>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
>>> would
>>>> be
>>>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses
>>>>>>>>>>> things
>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use
>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check
>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>> more
>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch
>>>>>>>>>>> from a
>>>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and
>>> closer
>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré"
>>>>>>>>>>>> <jb@nanthrax.net
>>>>
>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache
>>> Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> GUI is
>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <
>>> olamy@apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> name
>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rude
>>> for
>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility
>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about
>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer
>>> progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even
>>>>>>>>>>> http://roca-style.org
>>> .
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
Page renamed: https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/SironaProposal
I will wait until tomorrow if no more objections then start the vote.
On 7 October 2013 09:59, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1 for Sirona
>
>
> On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> +1, sounds good
>>
>>
>> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> > So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>> > Any objections?
>> >
>> > On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> > wrote:
>> > > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>> > > translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
>> > > wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
>> > stands
>> > > for. But I like its sound.
>> > >
>> > > I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
>> > > "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
>> > used
>> > > by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>> > >
>> > > What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>> > > http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>> > > of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>> > >
>> > > A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>> > > monitoring.
>> > > There is a project management software called marlin:
>> > > http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>> > >
>> > > I believe we currently have:
>> > >
>> > > Apache Leitstand
>> > > Apache Nechtan
>> > > Apache Merlin
>> > > Apache Sirona
>> > > Apache Heimdall
>> > > Apache Dagr
>> > >
>> > > Cheers
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due
>> to
>> > >> the
>> > >> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
>> > good
>> > >> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>> > >>
>> > >>
>> > >> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >>
>> > >>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>> > >>> status.apache.org
>> > >>>
>> > >>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>> > >>>
>> > >>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall,
>> who
>> > >>> is
>> > >>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
>> was
>> > >>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>> > >>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall
>> was
>> > >>> named as the "father of all humans".
>> > >>>
>> > >>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>> > >>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of
>> our
>> > >>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>> > >>>
>> > >>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>> > >>> happens ;-)
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
>> > myths
>> > >>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
>> > heaven.
>> > >>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
>> imagine
>> > >>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>> > >>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>> > >>>
>> > >>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>> > >>>>> Buildr.
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>> > >>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
>> > we'd
>> > >>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>> > >>>> infrastructure.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>> With regards,
>> > >>>> Daniel.
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>
>> > >>>>> Tammo
>> > >>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>> > >>>>>
>> > >>>>> So what about Baldr?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
>> > for
>> > >>>>>> TLP?
>> > >>>>>> WDYT?
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
>> > grobmeier@gmail.com>
>> > >>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
>> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>> officially.
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>> > >>>>>>> already.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> - CoMon
>> > >>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>> > >>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> - Leitstand
>> > >>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any
>> repositories
>> > >>>>>>> at
>> > >>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were
>> you
>> > >>>>>>> can
>> > >>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
>> would
>> > be
>> > >>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things
>> well
>> > >>>>>>> and
>> > >>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> - Thor
>> > >>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
>> > >>>>>>> name
>> > >>>>>>> for their code :-(
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>> > >>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this
>> more
>> > in
>> > >>>>>>> detail.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
>> > >>>>>>> unique
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and
>> closer
>> > to
>> > >>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>> > >>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
>> >
>> > a
>> > >>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> écrit :
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> Regards
>> > >>>>>>>>> JB
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache
>> Leitstand"
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> [1],
>> > >>>>>>>>>> which
>> > >>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
>> > when
>> > >>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
>> > an
>> > >>>>>>>>>> important
>> > >>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
>> > correctly.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>> > >>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> [1]
>> > >>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
>> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
>> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <
>> olamy@apache.org
>> > >
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name
>> for
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> project.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude
>> for
>> > me
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>> :-).
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> :
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility
>> possible
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> js.
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about
>> the
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer
>> progressive
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org
>> .
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>>
>> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
+1 for Sirona
On Fri, Oct 4, 2013 at 4:44 PM, Ashish <pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> +1, sounds good
>
>
> On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>
> > So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> > Any objections?
> >
> > On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
> > > translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
> > > wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
> > stands
> > > for. But I like its sound.
> > >
> > > I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
> > > "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
> > used
> > > by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
> > >
> > > What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
> > > http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
> > > of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
> > >
> > > A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
> > > monitoring.
> > > There is a project management software called marlin:
> > > http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
> > >
> > > I believe we currently have:
> > >
> > > Apache Leitstand
> > > Apache Nechtan
> > > Apache Merlin
> > > Apache Sirona
> > > Apache Heimdall
> > > Apache Dagr
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> > >
> > >> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due
> to
> > >> the
> > >> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
> > good
> > >> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
> > >>
> > >>
> > >> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>
> > >>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
> > >>> status.apache.org
> > >>>
> > >>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
> > >>>
> > >>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall,
> who
> > >>> is
> > >>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
> was
> > >>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
> > >>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
> > >>>
> > >>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall
> was
> > >>> named as the "father of all humans".
> > >>>
> > >>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
> > >>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of
> our
> > >>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
> > >>>
> > >>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
> > >>> happens ;-)
> > >>>
> > >>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
> > myths
> > >>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
> > heaven.
> > >>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
> imagine
> > >>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
> > >>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>>
> > >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
> > >>>>> Buildr.
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
> > >>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
> > we'd
> > >>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
> > >>>> infrastructure.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> With regards,
> > >>>> Daniel.
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> So what about Baldr?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
> > for
> > >>>>>> TLP?
> > >>>>>> WDYT?
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
> > grobmeier@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>> officially.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
> > >>>>>>> already.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - CoMon
> > >>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
> > >>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - Leitstand
> > >>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any
> repositories
> > >>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were
> you
> > >>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
> would
> > be
> > >>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things
> well
> > >>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - Thor
> > >>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
> > >>>>>>> name
> > >>>>>>> for their code :-(
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> > >>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this
> more
> > in
> > >>>>>>> detail.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
> > >>>>>>> unique
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and
> closer
> > to
> > >>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> > >>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb@nanthrax.net
> >
> > a
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> écrit :
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>>> JB
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache
> Leitstand"
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> [1],
> > >>>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
> > when
> > >>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
> > an
> > >>>>>>>>>> important
> > >>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
> > correctly.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
> > >>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <
> olamy@apache.org
> > >
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name
> for
> > >>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>> project.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
> > >>>>>>>>>>> germanic
> > >>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude
> for
> > me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> :-).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
> > >>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility
> possible
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> js.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about
> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer
> progressive
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org
> .
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Ashish <pa...@gmail.com>.
+1, sounds good
On Wed, Oct 2, 2013 at 4:31 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> Any objections?
>
> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
> > translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
> > wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
> stands
> > for. But I like its sound.
> >
> > I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
> > "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
> used
> > by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
> >
> > What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
> > http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
> > of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
> >
> > A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
> > monitoring.
> > There is a project management software called marlin:
> > http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
> >
> > I believe we currently have:
> >
> > Apache Leitstand
> > Apache Nechtan
> > Apache Merlin
> > Apache Sirona
> > Apache Heimdall
> > Apache Dagr
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >
> >> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to
> >> the
> >> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
> good
> >> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
> >>> status.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
> >>>
> >>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
> >>> is
> >>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was
> >>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
> >>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
> >>>
> >>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
> >>> named as the "father of all humans".
> >>>
> >>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
> >>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
> >>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
> >>>
> >>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
> >>> happens ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
> myths
> >>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
> heaven.
> >>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
> >>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
> >>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
> >>>>> Buildr.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
> >>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
> we'd
> >>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
> >>>> infrastructure.
> >>>>
> >>>> With regards,
> >>>> Daniel.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Tammo
> >>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So what about Baldr?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
> for
> >>>>>> TLP?
> >>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
> grobmeier@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> officially.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
> >>>>>>> already.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - CoMon
> >>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
> >>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Leitstand
> >>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would
> be
> >>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Thor
> >>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
> >>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>> for their code :-(
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> >>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more
> in
> >>>>>>> detail.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
> >>>>>>> unique
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer
> to
> >>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> >>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [1],
> >>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
> when
> >>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
> an
> >>>>>>>>>> important
> >>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
> correctly.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
> >>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
> >>>>>>>>>>> germanic
> >>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for
> me
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> :-).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
> >>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> js.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
> >>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
No problem, that sounds good as well.
JLouis
2013/10/3 Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>
> works for me too
>
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>
> 2013/10/3 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>
> > Sounds good for me too.
> >
> >
> > On 2 October 2013 18:19, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > > -1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :(
> > > There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many
> of
> > them in the software area
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > +1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for
> > any software related product so far.
> > >
> > > LieGrue,
> > > strub
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > >> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> > >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> > >> Cc:
> > >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46
> > >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
> > >>
> > >> +1
> > >>
> > >> Regards
> > >> JB
> > >>
> > >> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> > >>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> > >>> Any objections?
> > >>>
> > >>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <
> grobmeier@gmail.com>
> > >> wrote:
> > >>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
> > >>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on
> > >> the english
> > >>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
> > >> stands
> > >>>> for. But I like its sound.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring
> > >> is
> > >>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However,
> > >> Sirona is used
> > >>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
> > >>>>
> > >>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
> > >>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
> > >>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
> > >>>>
> > >>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related
> to
> > >>>> monitoring.
> > >>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
> > >>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
> > >>>>
> > >>>> I believe we currently have:
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Apache Leitstand
> > >>>> Apache Nechtan
> > >>>> Apache Merlin
> > >>>> Apache Sirona
> > >>>> Apache Heimdall
> > >>>> Apache Dagr
> > >>>>
> > >>>> Cheers
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>>
> > >>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> > >>>>
> > >>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache
> > >> Nechtan" due to
> > >>>>> the
> > >>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am
> > >> not good
> > >>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier
> > >> <gr...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>
> > >>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
> > >>>>>> status.apache.org
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with
> > >> Heimdall, who
> > >>>>>> is
> > >>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more
> > >> known because he was
> > >>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server
> > >> ;-)
> > >>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames:
> > >> Heimdall was
> > >>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when
> > >> danger
> > >>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the
> > >> end of our
> > >>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the
> > >> tool
> > >>>>>> happens ;-)
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for
> > >> "Day". In old myths
> > >>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi
> > >> through heaven.
> > >>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
> > >> imagine
> > >>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our
> > >> applications.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology.
> > >> Its so
> > >>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> > >>>>>>
> > >>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the
> > >> similarity to Apache
> > >>>>>>>> Buildr.
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already
> > >> very much a
> > >>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be
> > >> avoided, we'd
> > >>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
> > >>>>>>> infrastructure.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>> With regards,
> > >>>>>>> Daniel.
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy"
> > >> <ol...@apache.org>:
> > >>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then
> > >> change the name for
> > >>>>>>>>> TLP?
> > >>>>>>>>> WDYT?
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
> > >> <gr...@gmail.com>
> > >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we
> > >> start the process
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>> officially.
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add
> > >> a few comments
> > >>>>>>>>>> already.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
> > >>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a
> > >> company. We might have a trademarks
> > >>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
> > >>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not
> > >> find any repositories
> > >>>>>>>>>> at
> > >>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is
> > >> usually something were you
> > >>>>>>>>>> can
> > >>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so
> > >> on). Monitoring would be
> > >>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it
> > >> expresses things well
> > >>>>>>>>>> and
> > >>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> - Thor
> > >>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot
> > >> of people use that
> > >>>>>>>>>> name
> > >>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> > >>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we
> > >> need to check this more in
> > >>>>>>>>>> detail.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the
> > >> best catch from a
> > >>>>>>>>>> unique
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that
> > >> meaning.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons
> > >> monitoring, that's fun and closer to
> > >>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> > >>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste
> > >> Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
> > >>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand"
> > >> name.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> JB
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van
> > >> Lessen wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already,
> > >> I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I
> > >> think it would make also a nice name when
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of
> > >> course only works if the GUI is an
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> important
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the
> > >> case if I understood correctly.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> > http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM,
> > >> Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested
> > >> folks.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote
> > >> I'd like to find an other name for
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed
> > >> "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this
> > >> proposition looks to be rude for me
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions,
> > >> it's time to speak.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25,
> > >> Tammo van Lessen
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb
> > >> "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> :
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i
> > >> hope well keep extensibility possible
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> js.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least
> > >> a thread on it to discuss about the
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that
> > >> discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even
> > >> http://roca-style.org.
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> > >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy |
> > >> http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
works for me too
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2013/10/3 Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> Sounds good for me too.
>
>
> On 2 October 2013 18:19, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> > -1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :(
> > There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many of
> them in the software area
> >
> >
> >
> > +1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for
> any software related product so far.
> >
> > LieGrue,
> > strub
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> >> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> >> Cc:
> >> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46
> >> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
> >>
> >> +1
> >>
> >> Regards
> >> JB
> >>
> >> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> >>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> >>> Any objections?
> >>>
> >>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
> >>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on
> >> the english
> >>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
> >> stands
> >>>> for. But I like its sound.
> >>>>
> >>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring
> >> is
> >>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However,
> >> Sirona is used
> >>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
> >>>>
> >>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
> >>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
> >>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
> >>>>
> >>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
> >>>> monitoring.
> >>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
> >>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
> >>>>
> >>>> I believe we currently have:
> >>>>
> >>>> Apache Leitstand
> >>>> Apache Nechtan
> >>>> Apache Merlin
> >>>> Apache Sirona
> >>>> Apache Heimdall
> >>>> Apache Dagr
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache
> >> Nechtan" due to
> >>>>> the
> >>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am
> >> not good
> >>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier
> >> <gr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
> >>>>>> status.apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with
> >> Heimdall, who
> >>>>>> is
> >>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more
> >> known because he was
> >>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server
> >> ;-)
> >>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames:
> >> Heimdall was
> >>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when
> >> danger
> >>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the
> >> end of our
> >>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the
> >> tool
> >>>>>> happens ;-)
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for
> >> "Day". In old myths
> >>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi
> >> through heaven.
> >>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
> >> imagine
> >>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our
> >> applications.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology.
> >> Its so
> >>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the
> >> similarity to Apache
> >>>>>>>> Buildr.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already
> >> very much a
> >>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be
> >> avoided, we'd
> >>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
> >>>>>>> infrastructure.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> With regards,
> >>>>>>> Daniel.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy"
> >> <ol...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then
> >> change the name for
> >>>>>>>>> TLP?
> >>>>>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
> >> <gr...@gmail.com>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we
> >> start the process
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> officially.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add
> >> a few comments
> >>>>>>>>>> already.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
> >>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a
> >> company. We might have a trademarks
> >>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
> >>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not
> >> find any repositories
> >>>>>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is
> >> usually something were you
> >>>>>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so
> >> on). Monitoring would be
> >>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it
> >> expresses things well
> >>>>>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Thor
> >>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot
> >> of people use that
> >>>>>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> >>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we
> >> need to check this more in
> >>>>>>>>>> detail.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the
> >> best catch from a
> >>>>>>>>>> unique
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that
> >> meaning.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons
> >> monitoring, that's fun and closer to
> >>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste
> >> Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand"
> >> name.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van
> >> Lessen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already,
> >> I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I
> >> think it would make also a nice name when
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of
> >> course only works if the GUI is an
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> important
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the
> >> case if I understood correctly.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM,
> >> Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested
> >> folks.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote
> >> I'd like to find an other name for
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed
> >> "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this
> >> proposition looks to be rude for me
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions,
> >> it's time to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25,
> >> Tammo van Lessen
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb
> >> "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i
> >> hope well keep extensibility possible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> js.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least
> >> a thread on it to discuss about the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that
> >> discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even
> >> http://roca-style.org.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy |
> >> http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
Sounds good for me too.
On 2 October 2013 18:19, Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de> wrote:
> -1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :(
> There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many of them in the software area
>
>
>
> +1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for any software related product so far.
>
> LieGrue,
> strub
>
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>> To: general@incubator.apache.org
>> Cc:
>> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46
>> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>>
>> +1
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>>> Any objections?
>>>
>>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on
>> the english
>>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
>> stands
>>>> for. But I like its sound.
>>>>
>>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring
>> is
>>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However,
>> Sirona is used
>>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>>>
>>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>>>
>>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>>>> monitoring.
>>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>>>>
>>>> I believe we currently have:
>>>>
>>>> Apache Leitstand
>>>> Apache Nechtan
>>>> Apache Merlin
>>>> Apache Sirona
>>>> Apache Heimdall
>>>> Apache Dagr
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache
>> Nechtan" due to
>>>>> the
>>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am
>> not good
>>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>>>
>>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with
>> Heimdall, who
>>>>>> is
>>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more
>> known because he was
>>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server
>> ;-)
>>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames:
>> Heimdall was
>>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when
>> danger
>>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the
>> end of our
>>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the
>> tool
>>>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for
>> "Day". In old myths
>>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi
>> through heaven.
>>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
>> imagine
>>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our
>> applications.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology.
>> Its so
>>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the
>> similarity to Apache
>>>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already
>> very much a
>>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be
>> avoided, we'd
>>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy"
>> <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then
>> change the name for
>>>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we
>> start the process
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add
>> a few comments
>>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a
>> company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not
>> find any repositories
>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is
>> usually something were you
>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so
>> on). Monitoring would be
>>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it
>> expresses things well
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot
>> of people use that
>>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we
>> need to check this more in
>>>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the
>> best catch from a
>>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that
>> meaning.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons
>> monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste
>> Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand"
>> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van
>> Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already,
>> I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I
>> think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of
>> course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the
>> case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM,
>> Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested
>> folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote
>> I'd like to find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed
>> "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this
>> proposition looks to be rude for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions,
>> it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25,
>> Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb
>> "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i
>> hope well keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least
>> a thread on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that
>> discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even
>> http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Mark Struberg <st...@yahoo.de>.
-1 for Merlin. Just too widely used :(
There are 10++ pages of trademarks in all fields in trademarkia, many of them in the software area
+1 for Sirona as it has a nice meaning and it seems to not be used for any software related product so far.
LieGrue,
strub
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> From: Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> To: general@incubator.apache.org
> Cc:
> Sent: Wednesday, 2 October 2013, 8:46
> Subject: Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
>
> +1
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
>> Any objections?
>>
>> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on
> the english
>>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
> stands
>>> for. But I like its sound.
>>>
>>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring
> is
>>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However,
> Sirona is used
>>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>>
>>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>>
>>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>>> monitoring.
>>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>>>
>>> I believe we currently have:
>>>
>>> Apache Leitstand
>>> Apache Nechtan
>>> Apache Merlin
>>> Apache Sirona
>>> Apache Heimdall
>>> Apache Dagr
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>>
>>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache
> Nechtan" due to
>>>> the
>>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am
> not good
>>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>>
>>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>>
>>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with
> Heimdall, who
>>>>> is
>>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more
> known because he was
>>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server
> ;-)
>>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>>
>>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames:
> Heimdall was
>>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>>
>>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when
> danger
>>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the
> end of our
>>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>>
>>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the
> tool
>>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for
> "Day". In old myths
>>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi
> through heaven.
>>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
> imagine
>>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our
> applications.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology.
> Its so
>>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the
> similarity to Apache
>>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already
> very much a
>>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be
> avoided, we'd
>>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> With regards,
>>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy"
> <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then
> change the name for
>>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we
> start the process
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add
> a few comments
>>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a
> company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not
> find any repositories
>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is
> usually something were you
>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so
> on). Monitoring would be
>>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it
> expresses things well
>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot
> of people use that
>>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we
> need to check this more in
>>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the
> best catch from a
>>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that
> meaning.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons
> monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste
> Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand"
> name.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van
> Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already,
> I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I
> think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of
> course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the
> case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM,
> Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested
> folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote
> I'd like to find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed
> "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this
> proposition looks to be rude for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions,
> it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25,
> Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb
> "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i
> hope well keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least
> a thread on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that
> discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even
> http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy |
> http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
+1
Regards
JB
On 10/02/2013 01:01 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> Any objections?
>
> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
>> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
>> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan stands
>> for. But I like its sound.
>>
>> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
>> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is used
>> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>>
>> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
>> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
>> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>>
>> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
>> monitoring.
>> There is a project management software called marlin:
>> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>>
>> I believe we currently have:
>>
>> Apache Leitstand
>> Apache Nechtan
>> Apache Merlin
>> Apache Sirona
>> Apache Heimdall
>> Apache Dagr
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>>
>>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to
>>> the
>>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not good
>>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>>> status.apache.org
>>>>
>>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>>
>>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
>>>> is
>>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was
>>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>>
>>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
>>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>>
>>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
>>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>>
>>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>>>> happens ;-)
>>>>
>>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old myths
>>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through heaven.
>>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
>>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, we'd
>>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>>
>>>>> With regards,
>>>>> Daniel.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for
>>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories
>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you
>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
>>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well
>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
>>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
>>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
>>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> --
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
+1, sounds like the logo idea will be easy ;)
Le 2 oct. 2013 01:01, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> a écrit :
> So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
> Any objections?
>
> On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
> > translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
> > wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
> stands
> > for. But I like its sound.
> >
> > I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
> > "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
> used
> > by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
> >
> > What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
> > http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
> > of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
> >
> > A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
> > monitoring.
> > There is a project management software called marlin:
> > http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
> >
> > I believe we currently have:
> >
> > Apache Leitstand
> > Apache Nechtan
> > Apache Merlin
> > Apache Sirona
> > Apache Heimdall
> > Apache Dagr
> >
> > Cheers
> >
> >
> >
> > On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> >
> >> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to
> >> the
> >> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
> good
> >> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
> >>
> >>
> >> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>
> >>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
> >>> status.apache.org
> >>>
> >>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
> >>>
> >>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
> >>> is
> >>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was
> >>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
> >>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
> >>>
> >>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
> >>> named as the "father of all humans".
> >>>
> >>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
> >>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
> >>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
> >>>
> >>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
> >>> happens ;-)
> >>>
> >>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
> myths
> >>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
> heaven.
> >>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
> >>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
> >>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> >>>
> >>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
> >>>>> Buildr.
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
> >>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
> we'd
> >>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
> >>>> infrastructure.
> >>>>
> >>>> With regards,
> >>>> Daniel.
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>> Tammo
> >>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So what about Baldr?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
> for
> >>>>>> TLP?
> >>>>>> WDYT?
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <
> grobmeier@gmail.com>
> >>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> officially.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
> >>>>>>> already.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - CoMon
> >>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
> >>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Leitstand
> >>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories
> >>>>>>> at
> >>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you
> >>>>>>> can
> >>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would
> be
> >>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well
> >>>>>>> and
> >>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Thor
> >>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
> >>>>>>> name
> >>>>>>> for their code :-(
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> >>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more
> in
> >>>>>>> detail.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
> >>>>>>> unique
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer
> to
> >>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> >>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net>
> a
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> écrit :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Regards
> >>>>>>>>> JB
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [1],
> >>>>>>>>>> which
> >>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
> when
> >>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
> an
> >>>>>>>>>> important
> >>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
> correctly.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
> >>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> [1]
> >>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
> >>>>>>>>>> <
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <olamy@apache.org
> >
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for
> >>>>>>>>>>> the
> >>>>>>>>>>> project.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
> >>>>>>>>>>> germanic
> >>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for
> me
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> :-).
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
> >>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> :
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> without
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> js.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> In
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
So Apache Merlin sounds good to me.
Any objections?
On 25 September 2013 23:47, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
> translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
> wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan stands
> for. But I like its sound.
>
> I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
> "identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is used
> by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
>
> What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
> http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
> of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
>
> A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
> monitoring.
> There is a project management software called marlin:
> http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
>
> I believe we currently have:
>
> Apache Leitstand
> Apache Nechtan
> Apache Merlin
> Apache Sirona
> Apache Heimdall
> Apache Dagr
>
> Cheers
>
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
>
>> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to
>> the
>> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not good
>> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>>
>>
>> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>>> status.apache.org
>>>
>>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>>
>>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
>>> is
>>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was
>>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>>
>>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
>>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>>
>>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
>>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>>
>>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>>> happens ;-)
>>>
>>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old myths
>>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through heaven.
>>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
>>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>>>
>>>
>>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>>
>>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>>>> Buildr.
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, we'd
>>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>>> infrastructure.
>>>>
>>>> With regards,
>>>> Daniel.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Tammo
>>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>>
>>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for
>>>>>> TLP?
>>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> officially.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories
>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you
>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
>>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
>>>>>>> name
>>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
>>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
>>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Nechtan sounds cool also. Please note, in the german wikipedia its
translated with "The tremendousness". This is not noted on the english
wikipedia. After reading wikipedia I am still not sure what Nechtan
stands for. But I like its sound.
I just found "Sirona", goddess of healing. Because monitoring is
"identifying the sickness before its getting worse". However, Sirona is
used by companies related to healing (aka dental works).
What I found interesting is this page claims Merlin being a god:
http://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/celtic.htm
of protecting, counseling, crystal reading and so.
A few projects use Merlin, but all are very small ant not related to
monitoring.
There is a project management software called marlin:
http://www.projectwizards.net/de/merlin/
I believe we currently have:
Apache Leitstand
Apache Nechtan
Apache Merlin
Apache Sirona
Apache Heimdall
Apache Dagr
Cheers
On 25 Sep 2013, at 15:03, Stephen Connolly wrote:
> Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due
> to the
> association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not
> good
> on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
>
>
> On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
>> I also see thor is being used by infra:
>> status.apache.org
>>
>> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>>
>> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall,
>> who is
>> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
>> was
>> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
>> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>>
>> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall
>> was
>> named as the "father of all humans".
>>
>> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
>> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of
>> our
>> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>>
>> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
>> happens ;-)
>>
>> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old
>> myths
>> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through
>> heaven.
>> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I
>> imagine
>> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>>
>>
>> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
>> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>>
>> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>
>>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>>> Buildr.
>>>>
>>>
>>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
>>> we'd
>>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
>>> infrastructure.
>>>
>>> With regards,
>>> Daniel.
>>>
>>>
>>>> Tammo
>>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>>
>>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
>>>>> for
>>>>> TLP?
>>>>> WDYT?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
>>>>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>>>>>
>>>>> officially.
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>>>>>> already.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any
>>>>>> repositories at
>>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were
>>>>>> you can
>>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring
>>>>>> would be
>>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things
>>>>>> well and
>>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Thor
>>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
>>>>>> name
>>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>>
>>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this
>>>>>> more in
>>>>>> detail.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
>>>>>> unique
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and
>>>>>>> closer to
>>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré"
>>>>>>> <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache
>>>>>>>> Leitstand"
>>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
>>>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> [1]
>>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>> <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name
>>>>>>>>>> for the
>>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude
>>>>>>>>>> for me
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>>
>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>>>> <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility
>>>>>>>>>>>> possible
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>>
>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>>
>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer
>>>>>>>>>>>> progressive
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>>
>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
>>>>>>>> Talend - http://www.talend.com
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Stephen Connolly <st...@gmail.com>.
Why not try Celtic mythology.... I was thinking "Apache Nechtan" due to the
association with access to knowledge and floods... but heck I am not good
on my Irish mythology and the Norse ones always sounded way cooler
On 25 September 2013 13:23, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I also see thor is being used by infra:
> status.apache.org
>
> (mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
>
> However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who is
> the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he was
> able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
> A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
>
> For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
> named as the "father of all humans".
>
> He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
> appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
> time and the fall of the gods) starts.
>
> I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
> happens ;-)
>
> Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old myths
> Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through heaven.
> The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
> Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
>
>
> Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
> poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
>
> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>
>>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>>> Buildr.
>>>
>>
>> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
>> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, we'd
>> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our infrastructure.
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>>
>>> Tammo
>>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>>
>>> So what about Baldr?
>>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for
>>>> TLP?
>>>> WDYT?
>>>>
>>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>>> http://www.apache.org/**foundation/marks/naming.html<http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html>
>>>>>
>>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>>>>
>>>> officially.
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already.
>>>>>
>>>>> - CoMon
>>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Leitstand
>>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories at
>>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you can
>>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
>>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well and
>>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>>
>>>>> - Thor
>>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that name
>>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>>
>>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
>>>>> detail.
>>>>>
>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique
>>>>>>
>>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>>>>>>
>>>>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/****Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand>
>>>>>>>> <
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>> >
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
>>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> :-).
>>>>
>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tvanlessen@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>
>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> without
>>>>
>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> stack we
>>>>
>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> enhancement
>>>>
>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
I also see thor is being used by infra:
status.apache.org
(mentioning, because it has been proposed as name too).
However, it's not so bad. I actually mixed up Baldur with Heimdall, who
is the actual "protector" of Bifröst. Baldur was more known because he
was able to return from Hel (sounds like a good name for a server ;-)
A quick crosscheck told me Heimdall is not used that often.
For those who were concerned about using nordic godnames: Heimdall was
named as the "father of all humans".
He was also known for his horn Gjallarhorn which he blew when danger
appeared. Most notable he blew that horn when Ragnarökr (the end of our
time and the fall of the gods) starts.
I imagine the sound of a horn when critical notification of the tool
happens ;-)
Another idea i just had was "Dagr". It old norsk for "Day". In old myths
Dagr is the son of night and he rides his horse Skinfaxi through heaven.
The crest of the horse lights the earth with golden shimmer. I imagine
Apache Dagr to shed light on the dark corners of our applications.
Heck, when I was young i read a lot about northern mythology. Its so
poetic. I should spend some time to read again.
On 25 Sep 2013, at 10:19, Daniel Gruno wrote:
> On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache
>> Buildr.
>
> Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
> thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided,
> we'd
> really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our
> infrastructure.
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
>>
>> Tammo
>> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>>
>>> So what about Baldr?
>>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name
>>> for TLP?
>>> WDYT?
>>>
>>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier
>>> <gr...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
>>>>
>>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>>> officially.
>>>>
>>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments
>>>> already.
>>>>
>>>> - CoMon
>>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>>
>>>> - Leitstand
>>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories
>>>> at
>>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you
>>>> can
>>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would
>>>> be
>>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well
>>>> and
>>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>>
>>>> - Thor
>>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that
>>>> name
>>>> for their code :-(
>>>>
>>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more
>>>> in
>>>> detail.
>>>>
>>>>> From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a
>>>>> unique
>>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>>
>>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer
>>>>> to
>>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net>
>>>>> a
>>> écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards
>>>>>> JB
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand"
>>>>>>> [1],
>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is
>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>> important
>>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood
>>>>>>> correctly.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
>>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular
>>>>>>>> germanic
>>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for
>>>>>>>> me
>>> :-).
>>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen
>>>>>>>> <tv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
>>> without
>>>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about
>>>>>>>>>> the
>>> stack we
>>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>>> enhancement
>>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even
>>>>>>>>> http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
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>>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Daniel Gruno <ru...@cord.dk>.
On 09/25/2013 09:21 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache Buildr.
Just a heads up from infra; baldr.apache.org is already very much a
thing, and has been for more than five years. If it can be avoided, we'd
really appreciate it if we can keep the name Baldr for our infrastructure.
With regards,
Daniel.
>
> Tammo
> Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
>
>> So what about Baldr?
>> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP?
>> WDYT?
>>
>> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>> I would like to throw in this document:
>>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
>>>
>>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process
>> officially.
>>>
>>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already.
>>>
>>> - CoMon
>>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>>> problem because of similarity.
>>>
>>> - Leitstand
>>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories at
>>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you can
>>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
>>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well and
>>> it is a unused word so far.
>>>
>>> - Thor
>>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that name
>>> for their code :-(
>>>
>>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
>>> detail.
>>>
>>> >From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique
>>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>>
>>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
>> écrit :
>>>>
>>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>> JB
>>>>>
>>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1],
>>>>>> which
>>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>>> important
>>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
>> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
>>>>>>> project.
>>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
>>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me
>> :-).
>>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
>> rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
>> without
>>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
>> stack we
>>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
>> enhancement
>>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
>>>>> jbonofre@apache.org
>>>>> http://blog.nanthrax.net
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Baldr is fine with me, my only concern is the similarity to Apache Buildr.
Tammo
Am 25.09.2013 01:18 schrieb "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org>:
> So what about Baldr?
> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP?
> WDYT?
>
> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I would like to throw in this document:
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
> >
> > We should make a few tests already before we start the process
> officially.
> >
> > here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already.
> >
> > - CoMon
> > There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
> > problem because of similarity.
> >
> > - Leitstand
> > Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories at
> > github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you can
> > adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
> > only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well and
> > it is a unused word so far.
> >
> > - Thor
> > Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that name
> > for their code :-(
> >
> > - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> > I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
> > detail.
> >
> > >From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique
> > point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
> >
> > Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> >> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
> >> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> >> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
> écrit :
> >>
> >>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1],
> >>>> which
> >>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
> >>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
> >>>> important
> >>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Tammo
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> >>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
> >>>>> project.
> >>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
> >>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me
> :-).
> >>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> >>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Olivier
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
> without
> >>>>>>> js.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> In
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
> stack we
> >>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
> enhancement
> >>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Olivier Lamy
> >>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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> >>> jbonofre@apache.org
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
It sounds good.
Regards
JB
On 09/25/2013 01:17 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> So what about Baldr?
> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP?
> WDYT?
>
> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> I would like to throw in this document:
>> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
>>
>> We should make a few tests already before we start the process officially.
>>
>> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already.
>>
>> - CoMon
>> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
>> problem because of similarity.
>>
>> - Leitstand
>> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories at
>> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you can
>> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
>> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well and
>> it is a unused word so far.
>>
>> - Thor
>> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that name
>> for their code :-(
>>
>> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
>> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
>> detail.
>>
>> >From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique
>> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>>
>> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>> JB
>>>>
>>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1],
>>>>> which
>>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>>>>> important
>>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers,
>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
>>>>>> project.
>>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
>>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
>>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>>> :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without
>>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> In
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
>>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
>>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
I'd start with Baldr (if a vote passes) to avoid relocation
Le 25 sept. 2013 01:18, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> a écrit :
> So what about Baldr?
> BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP?
> WDYT?
>
> On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > I would like to throw in this document:
> > http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
> >
> > We should make a few tests already before we start the process
> officially.
> >
> > here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already.
> >
> > - CoMon
> > There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
> > problem because of similarity.
> >
> > - Leitstand
> > Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories at
> > github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you can
> > adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
> > only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well and
> > it is a unused word so far.
> >
> > - Thor
> > Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that name
> > for their code :-(
> >
> > - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> > I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
> > detail.
> >
> > >From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique
> > point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
> >
> > Lets see if there are more names the next days.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> >> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
> >> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> >> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a
> écrit :
> >>
> >>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
> >>>
> >>> Regards
> >>> JB
> >>>
> >>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1],
> >>>> which
> >>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
> >>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
> >>>> important
> >>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Tammo
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<
> http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> >>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
> >>>>> project.
> >>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
> >>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me
> :-).
> >>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> >>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Olivier
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <
> rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >>>>>> :
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible
> without
> >>>>>>> js.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> In
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the
> stack we
> >>>>>>> want and well use ;)
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive
> enhancement
> >>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Tammo
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Olivier Lamy
> >>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
So what about Baldr?
BTW we can start incubation using Monitoring then change the name for TLP?
WDYT?
On 21 September 2013 06:30, Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com> wrote:
> I would like to throw in this document:
> http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
>
> We should make a few tests already before we start the process officially.
>
> here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already.
>
> - CoMon
> There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
> problem because of similarity.
>
> - Leitstand
> Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories at
> github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you can
> adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
> only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well and
> it is a unused word so far.
>
> - Thor
> Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that name
> for their code :-(
>
> - Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
> I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
> detail.
>
> >From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique
> point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
>
> Lets see if there are more names the next days.
>
>
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
>> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
>> english so easier to propagate IMO.
>> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
>>
>>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> JB
>>>
>>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>>
>>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1],
>>>> which
>>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>>>> important
>>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Tammo
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
>>>>> project.
>>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
>>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
>>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier
>>>>>
>>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>>> :
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without
>>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> In
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
>>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
>>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
I would like to throw in this document:
http://www.apache.org/foundation/marks/naming.html
We should make a few tests already before we start the process officially.
here is the current list, i felt so free to add a few comments already.
- CoMon
There is "Common Software", a company. We might have a trademarks
problem because of similarity.
- Leitstand
Not sure if I like the sound :-), but did not find any repositories at
github. From the meaning, a Leitstand is usually something were you can
adjust things (more power, less steam and so on). Monitoring would be
only a part of it. But on the other hand, it expresses things well and
it is a unused word so far.
- Thor
Great name, great god, but unfortunately a lot of people use that name
for their code :-(
- Balder / Baldur, also possible: Baldr
I haven't see a lot with that name, but we need to check this more in
detail.
>From that perspective, Leitstand would be the best catch from a unique
point of view. I like Baldr very much from that meaning.
Lets see if there are more names the next days.
Romain Manni-Bucau schrieb:
> Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
> english so easier to propagate IMO.
> Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
>
>> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>>
>> Regards
>> JB
>>
>> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>>
>>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1],
>>> which
>>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>>> important
>>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>>
>>> Cheers,
>>> Tammo
>>>
>>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
>>>> project.
>>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
>>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
>>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier
>>>>
>>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>>> :
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without
>>>>>> js.
>>>>>>
>>>>> In
>>>>>
>>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
>>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
>>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>>
>>>>> Tammo
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Why not "CoMon"? Remind commons monitoring, that's fun and closer to
english so easier to propagate IMO.
Le 20 sept. 2013 12:59, "Jean-Baptiste Onofré" <jb...@nanthrax.net> a écrit :
> I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
> On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
>
>> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1],
>> which
>> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
>> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an
>> important
>> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Tammo
>>
>> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/**Leitstand<http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand>
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>>
>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
>>> project.
>>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
>>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
>>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> --
>>> Olivier
>>>
>>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>>> :
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Hi
>>>>>
>>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without
>>>>> js.
>>>>>
>>>> In
>>>>
>>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
>>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
>>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>>
>>>> Tammo
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> Olivier Lamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
I like the "Apache Leitstand" name.
Regards
JB
On 09/20/2013 09:51 AM, Tammo van Lessen wrote:
> So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1], which
> means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
> pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an important
> piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
>
> Cheers,
> Tammo
>
> [1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> So It looks we have more interested folks.
>> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
>> project.
>> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
>> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
>> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
>> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Olivier
>>
>> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibucau@gmail.com
>>> :
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js.
>>> In
>>>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
>>>> want and well use ;)
>>>
>>> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
>>> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>>>
>>> Tammo
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Olivier Lamy
>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
So if German is en vogue already, I'd propose "Apache Leitstand" [1], which
means "control room". I think it would make also a nice name when
pronounced in English. This of course only works if the GUI is an important
piece of the project, which is the case if I understood correctly.
Cheers,
Tammo
[1] http://de.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leitstand
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 3:23 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
> project.
> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Olivier
>
> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js.
> > In
> >> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
> >> want and well use ;)
> >
> > Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
> > over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
> >
> > Tammo
>
>
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
+1 for Balder not baldur in french (add a a and that's weird ;)
Le 20 sept. 2013 03:23, "Olivier Lamy" <ol...@apache.org> a écrit :
> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
> project.
> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Olivier
>
> On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rmannibucau@gmail.com
> >:
> >>
> >> Hi
> >>
> >> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js.
> > In
> >> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
> >> want and well use ;)
> >
> > Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
> > over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
> >
> > Tammo
>
>
>
> --
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Ashish <pa...@gmail.com>.
On Fri, Sep 20, 2013 at 6:53 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> So It looks we have more interested folks.
> But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the
> project.
> Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
> god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
> More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
> If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
>
> Cheers
> --
> Olivier
How about "Apache Thor" (picked up from the movie Thor)
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
So It looks we have more interested folks.
But before starting the vote I'd like to find an other name for the project.
Someone proposed "Baldur" or "Balder" (note, It's a popular germanic
god). So as a French guy this proposition looks to be rude for me :-).
More seriously, this name doesn't hurt me.
If any other propositions, it's time to speak.
Cheers
--
Olivier
On 16 September 2013 08:25, Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rm...@gmail.com>:
>>
>> Hi
>>
>> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js.
> In
>> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
>> want and well use ;)
>
> Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
> over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
>
> Tammo
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Am 15.09.2013 15:35 schrieb "Romain Manni-Bucau" <rm...@gmail.com>:
>
> Hi
>
> Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js.
In
> all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
> want and well use ;)
Looking forward to that discussion ;) I'd prefer progressive enhancement
over SPAs in this context as well. Or even http://roca-style.org.
Tammo
Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi
Angular is great but i hope well keep extensibility possible without js. In
all case well get at least a thread on it to discuss about the stack we
want and well use ;)
Le 15 sept. 2013 15:29, "Christian Grobmeier" <gr...@gmail.com> a
écrit :
> Great proposal.
>
> You have already enough mentors, otherwise I would step up as one.
>
> Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> > The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
> > (Olivier spoke about it first)
>
> Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help with the
> GUI stuff. I would like to see such a gui myself, preferrably build with
> AngularJS.
>
> If you don't mind about my yet unclear time situation, you can count me
> in as initial committer.
>
> > Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> a
> écrit :
> >
> >> Hi Romain,
> >>
> >> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the
> >> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not
> >> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite,
> librato et
> >> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persistence
> >> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
> >> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
> >>
> >> Thanks,
> >> Tammo
> >>
> >>
> >> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> >> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi
> >>>
> >>> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> >>> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> >>> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> >>> 3) we will handle aggregation
> >>> and hopefully much more ;)
> >>>
> >>> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> >>> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Romain Manni-Bucau
> >>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> >>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> >>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> >>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> >>>> Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
> >>>> libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks,
> >>>> Tammo
> >>>>
> >>>> [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi Folks,
> >>>>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> >>>>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> >>>>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> >>>>> website :-) ).
> >>>>>
> >>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> >>>>>
> >>>>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the
> code
> >>>>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> >>>>> project.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> --
> >>>>> Olivier Lamy
> >>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Great proposal.
You have already enough mentors, otherwise I would step up as one.
Am 13.09.13 21:29, schrieb Romain Manni-Bucau:
> The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
> (Olivier spoke about it first)
Not sure how much time I will have but I might join and help with the
GUI stuff. I would like to see such a gui myself, preferrably build with
AngularJS.
If you don't mind about my yet unclear time situation, you can count me
in as initial committer.
> Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
>> Hi Romain,
>>
>> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the
>> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not
>> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite, librato et
>> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persistence
>> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
>> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>>
>> Thanks,
>> Tammo
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
>> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
>>> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
>>> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
>>> 3) we will handle aggregation
>>> and hopefully much more ;)
>>>
>>> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
>>> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Romain Manni-Bucau
>>> Twitter: @rmannibucau
>>> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
>>> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
>>> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
>>>> Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
>>>> libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
>>>>
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Tammo
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi Folks,
>>>>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>>>>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
>>>>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
>>>>> website :-) ).
>>>>>
>>>>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>>>>
>>>>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
>>>>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
>>>>> project.
>>>>>
>>>>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> --
>>>>> Olivier Lamy
>>>>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>>>>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>>>>>
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>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
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>>>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi
The gui is optional but a big added value for me. Rrd is on the radar
(Olivier spoke about it first)
Le 13 sept. 2013 20:43, "Tammo van Lessen" <tv...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> Hi Romain,
>
> cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the
> GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not
> planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite, librato et
> al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persistence
> sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
> rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
>
> Thanks,
> Tammo
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> > 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> > 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> > 3) we will handle aggregation
> > and hopefully much more ;)
> >
> > Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> > (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
> >
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> > > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
> > > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tammo
> > >
> > > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Folks,
> > >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> > >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> > >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> > >> website :-) ).
> > >>
> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> > >>
> > >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
> > >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> > >> project.
> > >>
> > >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >> --
> > >> Olivier Lamy
> > >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> > >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> > >>
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> > >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Hi Romain,
cool, count me in. Though, I still have some questions: 1. linked to the
GUI: does this mean, that it won't work without the GUI, i.e. it is not
planned to provide reporters that push data to statsd, graphite, librato et
al? Or does it just mean, that GUI is also in the focus? 2. Persistence
sounds very cool, would that include a time-series-storage (similar to
rrdtool) or just to keep the current values?
Thanks,
Tammo
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 6:04 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi
>
> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> 3) we will handle aggregation
> and hopefully much more ;)
>
> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>
>
>
> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
> > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tammo
> >
> > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks,
> >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> >> website :-) ).
> >>
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> >>
> >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
> >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> >> project.
> >>
> >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> --
> >> Olivier Lamy
> >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> >>
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> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi we use jmx too ATM. My opinion after some work is sharing counter/gauge
is loosing energy for few gain but if licence is compatible why not...
Le 13 sept. 2013 19:28, "Chris Geer" <ch...@cxtsoftware.com> a écrit :
> This seems to be similar to the Netflix Servo project [1]. They chose to
> expose the data over JMX instead of a web site but the collection seems
> like it has similar concepts. Maybe there is a possibility of providing
> value added services on top of it? Like aggregation, reporting....
>
> Chris
>
> [1] https://github.com/Netflix/servo/wiki
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
> <rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
>
> > Hi
> >
> > basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> > 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> > 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> > 3) we will handle aggregation
> > and hopefully much more ;)
> >
> > Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> > (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
> >
> >
> >
> > Romain Manni-Bucau
> > Twitter: @rmannibucau
> > Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> > LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> > Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
> >
> >
> >
> > 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> > > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
> > > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
> > >
> > > Thanks,
> > > Tammo
> > >
> > > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>
> wrote:
> > >
> > >> Hi Folks,
> > >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> > >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> > >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> > >> website :-) ).
> > >>
> > >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> > >>
> > >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
> > >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> > >> project.
> > >>
> > >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> > >>
> > >> Cheers
> > >> --
> > >> Olivier Lamy
> > >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> > >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> > >>
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> > >>
> > >>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Chris Geer <ch...@cxtsoftware.com>.
This seems to be similar to the Netflix Servo project [1]. They chose to
expose the data over JMX instead of a web site but the collection seems
like it has similar concepts. Maybe there is a possibility of providing
value added services on top of it? Like aggregation, reporting....
Chris
[1] https://github.com/Netflix/servo/wiki
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 9:04 AM, Romain Manni-Bucau
<rm...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi
>
> basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
> 1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
> 2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
> 3) we will handle aggregation
> and hopefully much more ;)
>
> Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
> (tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
>
>
>
> Romain Manni-Bucau
> Twitter: @rmannibucau
> Blog: http://rmannibucau.wordpress.com/
> LinkedIn: http://fr.linkedin.com/in/rmannibucau
> Github: https://github.com/rmannibucau
>
>
>
> 2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> > Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
> > libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
> >
> > Thanks,
> > Tammo
> >
> > [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Folks,
> >> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> >> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> >> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> >> website :-) ).
> >>
> >> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
> >>
> >> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
> >> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> >> project.
> >>
> >> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
> >>
> >> Cheers
> >> --
> >> Olivier Lamy
> >> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> >> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
> >>
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> >>
> >>
> >
> >
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
Hi
basis are close to metrics but it has some few differences:
1) it is extensible by design and linked to the GUI
2) we will handle persistence of counters/gauges
3) we will handle aggregation
and hopefully much more ;)
Then I hope we will integrate it deeply with other Apache project
(tomee, jbatch impl maybe....)
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2013/9/13 Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>:
> Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
> libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
>
> Thanks,
> Tammo
>
> [1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
>
>
> On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
>
>> Hi Folks,
>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
>> website :-) ).
>>
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>
>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
>> project.
>>
>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>
>> Cheers
>> --
>> Olivier Lamy
>> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
>> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Tammo van Lessen <tv...@gmail.com>.
Sounds interesting. I'm curious how this is related to other metrics
libraries, like Coda Hale's [1]. Does it have a similar scope?
Thanks,
Tammo
[1] http://metrics.codahale.com/
On Fri, Sep 13, 2013 at 2:10 AM, Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> website :-) ).
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>
> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> project.
>
> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>
> Cheers
> --
> Olivier Lamy
> Ecetera: http://ecetera.com.au
> http://twitter.com/olamy | http://linkedin.com/in/olamy
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Olivier Lamy <ol...@apache.org>.
On 13 September 2013 15:51, Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net> wrote:
> Hi Olivier,
>
> it sounds really interested, and it's a feature that I would expect in
> Kalumet.
>
> I'm really interested to join !
I just added you as a mentor.
>
> Regards
> JB
>
>
> On 09/13/2013 02:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
>>
>> Hi Folks,
>> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
>> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
>> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
>> website :-) ).
>>
>> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>>
>> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
>> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
>> project.
>>
>> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>
> --
> Jean-Baptiste Onofré
> jbonofre@apache.org
> http://blog.nanthrax.net
> Talend - http://www.talend.com
>
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Jean-Baptiste Onofré <jb...@nanthrax.net>.
Hi Olivier,
it sounds really interested, and it's a feature that I would expect in
Kalumet.
I'm really interested to join !
Regards
JB
On 09/13/2013 02:10 AM, Olivier Lamy wrote:
> Hi Folks,
> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> website :-) ).
>
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>
> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> project.
>
> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>
> Cheers
>
--
Jean-Baptiste Onofré
jbonofre@apache.org
http://blog.nanthrax.net
Talend - http://www.talend.com
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Re: [DISCUSS] [PROPOSAL] Apache Monitoring
Posted by Christian Grobmeier <gr...@gmail.com>.
Am 13.09.13 02:10, schrieb Olivier Lamy:
> Hi Folks,
> Below is a proposal for a new incubator project called Apache
> Monitoring. (the name will certainly change as I imagine few people
> won't be happy if we request to be able to use monitoring.a.o as
> website :-) ).
>
hehehe right! I would like to discuss the name prior podling creation
(avoids unnecessary work). Given there are no trademark issues, I would
like to propose something like "Baldur" or "Balder". It's a popular
germanic god who was guarding the rainbow bridge to the home of ase,
Asgard. The ase are typically called gods.
Cheers
> https://wiki.apache.org/incubator/MonitoringProposal
>
> The source code is currently hosted at Commons Sandbox but as the code
> is larger than a simple component, the idea is to have a separate
> project.
>
> So let us know if you want to join (etc...)
>
> Cheers
>
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