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Wicket in Php
Hi,
Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
project.
I already have an application that is written in php.
I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which I
prefer to use wicket.
I am afraid if this is possible?
Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Steve Swinsburg <s....@lancaster.ac.uk>.
Only if you call it Picket!
Sound cool, massive job.
On 21 May 2009, at 11:43, Martin Sachs wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> wicket in php is a very cool idea. It occurred to me that we can
> start a
> port the wicket to a php Framework.
>
> I dont know a php-Framework with features like wicket have. Many
> frameworks
> works more like struts IMHO.
>
> Maybe someone can help me, estimated the work of such porting of
> Wicket.
> - Model Concept
> - plain HTML and plain PHP
> - Server-side state
>
> This could be very useful because you can run php on a little
> vserver or you
> can handle much more Users on one server. This safes a lot of money
> at the
> end. Understand me correctly, i like JAVA and Wicket on Java-
> plattform, but
> php is very interesting to push little apps on small servers.
>
>
> Any opinion to that ?
>
> By the way, you can use the wicket include component to add php-
> pages to
> wicket and from PHP you can use an iFrame or mount another page to
> the php
> or write ajax-code which requests php-sites without statechange in
> wicket.
>
> Martin
>
>
>
> Ajayi Yinka wrote:
>>
>> Thanks
>>
>>
>> May I get the description on how to do the integration. I may not
>> mind the
>> integration, provided it can handle my session for me (As in if a
>> user log
>> in through a wicket page, we can use this same log in instance to
>> manage
>> the
>> wicket page).
>>
>>
>> regards,
>> yinka
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
>> <jeremy@wickettraining.com
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application
>>> in
>>> Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
>>> integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
>>> you are looking at a complex project.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Jeremy Thomerson
>>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
>>> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into
>>>> php
>>>> project.
>>>>
>>>> I already have an application that is written in php.
>>>>
>>>> I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in
>>>> which
>>> I
>>>> prefer to use wicket.
>>>>
>>>> I am afraid if this is possible?
>>>>
>>>
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Martin Sachs <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
wicket in php is a very cool idea. It occurred to me that we can start a
port the wicket to a php Framework.
I dont know a php-Framework with features like wicket have. Many frameworks
works more like struts IMHO.
Maybe someone can help me, estimated the work of such porting of Wicket.
- Model Concept
- plain HTML and plain PHP
- Server-side state
This could be very useful because you can run php on a little vserver or you
can handle much more Users on one server. This safes a lot of money at the
end. Understand me correctly, i like JAVA and Wicket on Java-plattform, but
php is very interesting to push little apps on small servers.
Any opinion to that ?
By the way, you can use the wicket include component to add php-pages to
wicket and from PHP you can use an iFrame or mount another page to the php
or write ajax-code which requests php-sites without statechange in wicket.
Martin
Ajayi Yinka wrote:
>
> Thanks
>
>
> May I get the description on how to do the integration. I may not mind the
> integration, provided it can handle my session for me (As in if a user log
> in through a wicket page, we can use this same log in instance to manage
> the
> wicket page).
>
>
> regards,
> yinka
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Thomerson
> <jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application in
>> Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
>> integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
>> you are looking at a complex project.
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
>> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
>> > project.
>> >
>> > I already have an application that is written in php.
>> >
>> > I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which
>> I
>> > prefer to use wicket.
>> >
>> > I am afraid if this is possible?
>> >
>>
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by James Carman <jc...@carmanconsulting.com>.
I don't think they said it's impossible, but it's definitely impractical.
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 3:12 PM, Paolo Di Tommaso
<pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In other words .. impossible
>
> -- paolo
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> wrote:
>
>> That's for you to decide. Typically it involves some kind of jump
>> page between the two applications that once you are signed in, it
>> sends the user to a page in the other app with a key (perhaps a UUID,
>> etc) that correlates to that user in the DB so that the other app can
>> automatically sign the user in.
>>
>> The problem of course will be keeping session data in sync between the
>> two since they can't share the same object. This typically means
>> persisting much of the session state to a database or memcache layer.
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ajayi Yinka
>> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> > May I get the description on how to do the integration. I may not mind
>> the
>> > integration, provided it can handle my session for me (As in if a user
>> log
>> > in through a wicket page, we can use this same log in instance to manage
>> the
>> > wicket page).
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > yinka
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <
>> jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application in
>> >> Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
>> >> integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
>> >> you are looking at a complex project.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jeremy Thomerson
>> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
>> >> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
>> >> > project.
>> >> >
>> >> > I already have an application that is written in php.
>> >> >
>> >> > I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which
>> I
>> >> > prefer to use wicket.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am afraid if this is possible?
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >>
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>.
Not impossible. But you really need a reason for taking on such a big
project. I've done integration between disparate systems, for
example, between a ColdFusion application and a Tapestry application.
But they are difficult and time consuming.
You should not take on such a project just for "oh, I'd like to try
<new coolest thing>". This kind of project is best done if you can
migrate entire sections that do not need to inter-connect. Anytime
you have to sync session info between multiple applications, though,
it becomes very difficult.
If you are looking for something to make your PHP application better,
more object-oriented, and separate logic and presentation, I would
HIGHLY RECOMMEND the Symfony framework [1]. I recently signed on to
do a project where it had to be in PHP because of the existing talent
within the company, and I chose Symfony. It's the only reason I would
even take on a PHP project. Check it out. It's as close to Wicket as
you'll get in PHP.
[1] - http://www.symfony-project.org/
--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 2:12 PM, Paolo Di Tommaso
<pa...@gmail.com> wrote:
> In other words .. impossible
>
> -- paolo
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> wrote:
>
>> That's for you to decide. Typically it involves some kind of jump
>> page between the two applications that once you are signed in, it
>> sends the user to a page in the other app with a key (perhaps a UUID,
>> etc) that correlates to that user in the DB so that the other app can
>> automatically sign the user in.
>>
>> The problem of course will be keeping session data in sync between the
>> two since they can't share the same object. This typically means
>> persisting much of the session state to a database or memcache layer.
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ajayi Yinka
>> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Thanks
>> >
>> >
>> > May I get the description on how to do the integration. I may not mind
>> the
>> > integration, provided it can handle my session for me (As in if a user
>> log
>> > in through a wicket page, we can use this same log in instance to manage
>> the
>> > wicket page).
>> >
>> >
>> > regards,
>> > yinka
>> >
>> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <
>> jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> >> wrote:
>> >
>> >> Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application in
>> >> Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
>> >> integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
>> >> you are looking at a complex project.
>> >>
>> >> --
>> >> Jeremy Thomerson
>> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >>
>> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
>> >> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> >> > Hi,
>> >> >
>> >> > Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
>> >> > project.
>> >> >
>> >> > I already have an application that is written in php.
>> >> >
>> >> > I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which
>> I
>> >> > prefer to use wicket.
>> >> >
>> >> > I am afraid if this is possible?
>> >> >
>> >>
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>> >>
>> >>
>> >
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Paolo Di Tommaso <pa...@gmail.com>.
In other words .. impossible
-- paolo
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 6:24 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
> wrote:
> That's for you to decide. Typically it involves some kind of jump
> page between the two applications that once you are signed in, it
> sends the user to a page in the other app with a key (perhaps a UUID,
> etc) that correlates to that user in the DB so that the other app can
> automatically sign the user in.
>
> The problem of course will be keeping session data in sync between the
> two since they can't share the same object. This typically means
> persisting much of the session state to a database or memcache layer.
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ajayi Yinka
> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Thanks
> >
> >
> > May I get the description on how to do the integration. I may not mind
> the
> > integration, provided it can handle my session for me (As in if a user
> log
> > in through a wicket page, we can use this same log in instance to manage
> the
> > wicket page).
> >
> >
> > regards,
> > yinka
> >
> > On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <
> jeremy@wickettraining.com
> >> wrote:
> >
> >> Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application in
> >> Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
> >> integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
> >> you are looking at a complex project.
> >>
> >> --
> >> Jeremy Thomerson
> >> http://www.wickettraining.com
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
> >> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> > Hi,
> >> >
> >> > Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
> >> > project.
> >> >
> >> > I already have an application that is written in php.
> >> >
> >> > I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which
> I
> >> > prefer to use wicket.
> >> >
> >> > I am afraid if this is possible?
> >> >
> >>
> >> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
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> >>
> >>
> >
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>.
That's for you to decide. Typically it involves some kind of jump
page between the two applications that once you are signed in, it
sends the user to a page in the other app with a key (perhaps a UUID,
etc) that correlates to that user in the DB so that the other app can
automatically sign the user in.
The problem of course will be keeping session data in sync between the
two since they can't share the same object. This typically means
persisting much of the session state to a database or memcache layer.
--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 11:20 AM, Ajayi Yinka
<ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Thanks
>
>
> May I get the description on how to do the integration. I may not mind the
> integration, provided it can handle my session for me (As in if a user log
> in through a wicket page, we can use this same log in instance to manage the
> wicket page).
>
>
> regards,
> yinka
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
>> wrote:
>
>> Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application in
>> Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
>> integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
>> you are looking at a complex project.
>>
>> --
>> Jeremy Thomerson
>> http://www.wickettraining.com
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
>> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
>> > project.
>> >
>> > I already have an application that is written in php.
>> >
>> > I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which I
>> > prefer to use wicket.
>> >
>> > I am afraid if this is possible?
>> >
>>
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Ajayi Yinka <ia...@googlemail.com>.
Thanks
May I get the description on how to do the integration. I may not mind the
integration, provided it can handle my session for me (As in if a user log
in through a wicket page, we can use this same log in instance to manage the
wicket page).
regards,
yinka
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 4:45 PM, Jeremy Thomerson <jeremy@wickettraining.com
> wrote:
> Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application in
> Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
> integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
> you are looking at a complex project.
>
> --
> Jeremy Thomerson
> http://www.wickettraining.com
>
>
>
>
> On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
> <ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
> > project.
> >
> > I already have an application that is written in php.
> >
> > I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which I
> > prefer to use wicket.
> >
> > I am afraid if this is possible?
> >
>
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Jeremy Thomerson <je...@wickettraining.com>.
Wicket is written in Java. You would need to build an application in
Java, running in a servlet container. Perhaps you could do an
integration and have some pages running in PHP and some in Java, but
you are looking at a complex project.
--
Jeremy Thomerson
http://www.wickettraining.com
On Wed, May 20, 2009 at 10:39 AM, Ajayi Yinka
<ia...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
> project.
>
> I already have an application that is written in php.
>
> I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which I
> prefer to use wicket.
>
> I am afraid if this is possible?
>
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Ajayi Yinka <ia...@googlemail.com>.
I have gone through both symphony and resins.
I am afraid resins will me both cash and time to get a fast development.
I think I would rather stick to php for the project.
Thanks to all for contribution
Ajayi
On Thu, May 21, 2009 at 12:36 PM, pkcinna <pk...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> I used quercus for a medium size project and it works great for accessing
> java packages since its implemented with a java servlet. My experience was
> the php.ini/configuration is limited and Quercus doesn't implement every
> method for every native php module. Also not sure about the licensing but
> if you grab a trial version of resin you can take the quercus.jar and run
> it
> from tomcat. Performance was very good and in some ways better than native
> PHP.
>
> For the most part Quercus worked good and if you run into a feature of your
> php app that is not support you can implement it as a java class.
>
>
> martin-g wrote:
> >
> > Hi Ajayi,
> >
> > Take a look at http://www.caucho.com/ Their web container (Resin) has an
> > addon for PHP (Quercus).
> > I have never use them but maybe you could mix the both apps ;-)
> >
> > El mié, 20-05-2009 a las 16:39 +0100, Ajayi Yinka escribió:
> >> Hi,
> >>
> >> Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
> >> project.
> >>
> >> I already have an application that is written in php.
> >>
> >> I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which I
> >> prefer to use wicket.
> >>
> >> I am afraid if this is possible?
> >
> >
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> >
> >
> >
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by pkcinna <pk...@gmail.com>.
I used quercus for a medium size project and it works great for accessing
java packages since its implemented with a java servlet. My experience was
the php.ini/configuration is limited and Quercus doesn't implement every
method for every native php module. Also not sure about the licensing but
if you grab a trial version of resin you can take the quercus.jar and run it
from tomcat. Performance was very good and in some ways better than native
PHP.
For the most part Quercus worked good and if you run into a feature of your
php app that is not support you can implement it as a java class.
martin-g wrote:
>
> Hi Ajayi,
>
> Take a look at http://www.caucho.com/ Their web container (Resin) has an
> addon for PHP (Quercus).
> I have never use them but maybe you could mix the both apps ;-)
>
> El mié, 20-05-2009 a las 16:39 +0100, Ajayi Yinka escribió:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
>> project.
>>
>> I already have an application that is written in php.
>>
>> I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which I
>> prefer to use wicket.
>>
>> I am afraid if this is possible?
>
>
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Re: Wicket in Php
Posted by Martin Grigorov <mc...@e-card.bg>.
Hi Ajayi,
Take a look at http://www.caucho.com/ Their web container (Resin) has an
addon for PHP (Quercus).
I have never use them but maybe you could mix the both apps ;-)
El mié, 20-05-2009 a las 16:39 +0100, Ajayi Yinka escribió:
> Hi,
>
> Can anyone give me an insight on how I can integrate wicket into php
> project.
>
> I already have an application that is written in php.
>
> I will like to upgrade the application with some new features in which I
> prefer to use wicket.
>
> I am afraid if this is possible?
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