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Posted to user@jmeter.apache.org by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> on 2012/11/06 23:25:48 UTC
SoapSampler deprecation ?
Hello,
I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
Here are the reasons for that:
- Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
- It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which seems
to me rather a big one:
- https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
- It relies on rather old library
--
Regards.
Philippe
Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by "Mikhail T." <mi...@aldan.algebra.com>.
On 06.11.2012 17:25, Philippe Mouawad wrote:
> I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
As a newcomer to JMeter I am (was) not aware of the problems with the sampler.
But it did seem useful, when I looked at it... My test-plans, for example, all
start with looking up some data -- hostnames and port-numbers -- in our
configuration database.
Though I ended up using the HTTP-request and XML-extractor combination to
extract the configuration data, SOAP was my other option...
While, strictly-speaking, you don't need anything other than regexp-extractor
(just as you don't need any language above assembler), interfacing certain
data-sources can be much easier with SOAP. Whether this convenience trumps the
problems with the current implementation, I do not know...
-mi
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Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by Shmuel Krakower <sh...@gmail.com>.
Yep, I don't see any need for this sampler neither.
Shmuel Krakower.
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On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Philippe Mouawad <
philippe.mouawad@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
>
> Here are the reasons for that:
>
> - Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
> rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
> - It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
> because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which
> seems
> to me rather a big one:
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
> - It relies on rather old library
>
>
> --
> Regards.
> Philippe
>
Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by Mark Miller <ma...@gmail.com>.
I use it extensively because it is the least cluttered UI for the job (and
I have not run into any limitations relative to my targets). I'm imagining
my conversion script to migrate off it...
Mark
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 10:43 AM, Adrian Speteanu <as...@gmail.com>wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I guess if people who used don't speak up it means it's not needed anymore
> :)
>
> Don't see the need for it anymore, also.
>
> Cheers,
> Adrian S
>
> On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Philippe Mouawad <
> philippe.mouawad@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > Hello,
> > I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
> >
> > Here are the reasons for that:
> >
> > - Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
> > rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
> > - It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
> > because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which
> > seems
> > to me rather a big one:
> > - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
> > - It relies on rather old library
> >
> >
> > --
> > Regards.
> > Philippe
> >
>
Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by "Mikhail T." <mi...@aldan.algebra.com>.
On 07.11.2012 12:43, Adrian Speteanu wrote:
> I guess if people who used don't speak up it means it's not needed anymore
I think, it is a mistake to assume, such users would be always be subscribed to
this list.
-mi
Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by Adrian Speteanu <as...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
I guess if people who used don't speak up it means it's not needed anymore
:)
Don't see the need for it anymore, also.
Cheers,
Adrian S
On Wed, Nov 7, 2012 at 12:25 AM, Philippe Mouawad <
philippe.mouawad@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
>
> Here are the reasons for that:
>
> - Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
> rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
> - It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
> because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which
> seems
> to me rather a big one:
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
> - It relies on rather old library
>
>
> --
> Regards.
> Philippe
>
Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 7 November 2012 19:29, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> One thing we could do is put wsdl helper that computes method names and
> soapaction in a dialog like function helper.
> Although in my opinion it is not as complete as it does not compute soap
> ws body which is the most complete part.
Not sure it's worth the effort of doing so, as the WSDL parser is
quite limited - it does not support WSDL 2.0.
> But at least we would not lose any feature.
Nor would we if we just kept the sampler.
> Regards
> Philippe
> On Wednesday, November 7, 2012, sebb wrote:
>
>> On 6 November 2012 22:25, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
>> wrote:
>> > Hello,
>> > I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
>> >
>> > Here are the reasons for that:
>> >
>> > - Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
>> > rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
>> > - It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
>> > because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which
>> seems
>> > to me rather a big one:
>> > - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
>> > - It relies on rather old library
>>
>> It is also quite inefficient compared with the other HTTP samplers.
>>
>> I agree we should deprecate it, but I would just leave the code there
>> for people to use if they want.
>> The docs should be updated to say it is end of life.
>> We then need not make any further bug fixes or improvements.
>>
>> >
>> > --
>> > Regards.
>> > Philippe
>>
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>
> --
> Cordialement.
> Philippe Mouawad.
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Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com>.
One thing we could do is put wsdl helper that computes method names and
soapaction in a dialog like function helper.
Although in my opinion it is not as complete as it does not compute soap
ws body which is the most complete part.
But at least we would not lose any feature.
Regards
Philippe
On Wednesday, November 7, 2012, sebb wrote:
> On 6 November 2012 22:25, Philippe Mouawad <philippe.mouawad@gmail.com<javascript:;>>
> wrote:
> > Hello,
> > I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
> >
> > Here are the reasons for that:
> >
> > - Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
> > rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
> > - It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
> > because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which
> seems
> > to me rather a big one:
> > - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
> > - It relies on rather old library
>
> It is also quite inefficient compared with the other HTTP samplers.
>
> I agree we should deprecate it, but I would just leave the code there
> for people to use if they want.
> The docs should be updated to say it is end of life.
> We then need not make any further bug fixes or improvements.
>
> >
> > --
> > Regards.
> > Philippe
>
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Cordialement.
Philippe Mouawad.
SV: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by Carsten Petersen <cp...@testhuset.dk>.
And here are my 2 cents.
I use it because it provides a nicer looking and easier to use interface in the GUI, and I have not found/seen any bug which others seems have.
I do however agree with Sebb that it could be deprecated in the manual to indicate that it is no longer maintained, because as I understand the code (soap.jar) cannot be found anymore.
This is not the same as removing it so as long as it, in its current form, is compatible with JMeter I believe it should stay in.
Regards, Carsten.
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Emne: Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
On 6 November 2012 22:25, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
>
> Here are the reasons for that:
>
> - Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
> rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
> - It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
> because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which seems
> to me rather a big one:
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
> - It relies on rather old library
It is also quite inefficient compared with the other HTTP samplers.
I agree we should deprecate it, but I would just leave the code there for people to use if they want.
The docs should be updated to say it is end of life.
We then need not make any further bug fixes or improvements.
>
> --
> Regards.
> Philippe
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Re: SoapSampler deprecation ?
Posted by sebb <se...@gmail.com>.
On 6 November 2012 22:25, Philippe Mouawad <ph...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hello,
> I was wondering if we shouldn't deprecate Soap Sampler .
>
> Here are the reasons for that:
>
> - Since introduction of Raw Post body in HTTP Sampler it has become
> rather useless except for SoapAction computation inside GUI
> - It suffers from a bug which seems hard to fix (not technically but
> because we don't know where the source code of soap.jar is) and which seems
> to me rather a big one:
> - https://issues.apache.org/bugzilla/show_bug.cgi?id=54006
> - It relies on rather old library
It is also quite inefficient compared with the other HTTP samplers.
I agree we should deprecate it, but I would just leave the code there
for people to use if they want.
The docs should be updated to say it is end of life.
We then need not make any further bug fixes or improvements.
>
> --
> Regards.
> Philippe
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