Re[4]: MOD_JK Problem ?

[Jacob Kjome <ho...@visi.com>]

Hello Mark,

Sorry, didn't get that email before I sent mine.  Also, I don't
use Solaris so I can't help you there.

Good luck!

Jake

Monday, June 24, 2002, 9:42:52 AM, you wrote:

FM> Thanks, for your reply but I think I apologized already.  Still I do agree
FM> with what you say (for the most part).  Also, I'm trying to build for
FM> Solaris 8.  Got a binary for that?  I do, but mine doesn't seem to be
FM> working.

FM> Thanks,
FM> -Mark


FM> -----Original Message-----
FM> From: Jacob Kjome [mailto:hoju@visi.com] 
FM> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 9:39 AM
FM> To: Tomcat Users List
FM> Subject: Re[2]: MOD_JK Problem ?


FM> Hello Mark,

FM> A binary version of mod_jk for Windows that works with Apache 2.0.39 has
FM> been made available at this
FM> site:
FM> http://www.acg-gmbh.de/mod_jk/

FM> Note that the only reason the old module didn't work with Apache 2.0.39 is
FM> that something changed in Apache, not the Tomcat connectors. The connectors
FM> just needed to be compiled against the newer version of Apache.

FM> As much as you and I would like the Apache developers to produce binary
FM> versions of the software they develop, it is not really their
FM> responsibility.  It is all of ours.  If you believe differently, then you
FM> misunderstand open source.  I'm not so familiar with how to compile mod_jk,
FM> but that is no reason to expect someone else to do it for me.  Luckily,
FM> people from the open source community pitch in and help each other out.
FM> That is what the person at the site mentioned above has done.  He's given
FM> his time to help out others.  This help should not be taken for granted.
FM> Your business is not Apache Software's responsibility.  They provide the
FM> tools.  You need to be resourceful, or know someone who is resourceful,
FM> enough to use them. And keep in mind that Open source is not free as in
FM> "free beer", it is free as in "freedom of thought and expression".  If you
FM> don't want to use it, that is up to you, but the source is available for you
FM> to use as freely as you like.  However, no one owes you anything.  Keep that
FM> in mind at all times.

FM> Jake

FM> Monday, June 24, 2002, 7:09:51 AM, you wrote:

FM>> Nothing but agreement here, today will be the 5th business day that 
FM>> I will spend trying to figure out why Apache 2 and Tomcat 4 will not 
FM>> work together. I should be able to download them configure them and 
FM>> just go.  Everyone says use Apache/Tomcat it's free, what they don't 
FM>> say is it's free for a reason.

FM>> -Thanks,
FM>> Mark

FM>> -----Original Message-----
FM>> From: Turner, John [mailto:JTurner@AAS.com]
FM>> Sent: Monday, June 24, 2002 6:47 AM
FM>> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
FM>> Subject: RE: MOD_JK Problem ?



FM>> Well said, and I agree 100%.  I spent 8 business days trying to get
FM> Apache 2
FM>> with Tomcat 4 working, both with mod_webapp and mod_jk, before giving up
FM> and
FM>> going back to Apache 1.3.  Granted, I am not experienced with tomcat,
FM> which
FM>> may account for some of the delay, but your comments are right on the
FM> money.

FM>> All due respect to the developers, but the idea that Apache 2, Tomcat 4,
FM> and
FM>> the connectors are all separate projects, with little or no coordination
FM> (as
FM>> far as I can tell) is really disappointing.  To me, that seems like a
FM> big
FM>> mistake.

FM>> John Turner
FM>> jturner@NOSPAMaas.com

FM>> -----Original Message-----
FM>> From: Andy Eastham [mailto:andy.eastham@gliant.com]
FM>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 6:26 PM
FM>> To: Tomcat Users List
FM>> Subject: RE: MOD_JK Problem ?


FM>> I think everyone who uses Tomcat should back off using Apache2 until all
FM> the
FM>> connectors and more so the documentation get beyond pre-alpha state.

FM>> I'm a big fan of Apache and Tomcat, but I'm afraid the current state of
FM> the
FM>> connectors SUCKS.

FM>> I've held my tongue from writing this email for over a month, but now I
FM>> can't help it. I've wasted days trying to get this working myself, and
FM> I've
FM>> downgraded back to apache 1 again...

FM>> Given that Apache Tomcat is the reference Servlet Implementation, I
FM> think
FM>> that something needs to be done soon.  You basically can't use it with
FM> the
FM>> world's most popular web server.  It seems to me that there is very
FM> little
FM>> co-ordination between the separate Apache, Tomcat and Apache-Tomcat
FM>> connectors projects. Just take a look under
FM>> http://jakarta.apache.org/builds/jakarta-tomcat-connectors/ - apart from
FM>> coyote, there is rather a sad dearth of content.

FM>> I'm very sorry to have written this message which I'm sure will offend
FM> some
FM>> very hard working people.  I don't want to offend anyone, but I think
FM>> someone needs to say this.  The Apache organisation has set and achieved
FM>> some very high standards, and this area is significantly below par.

FM>> Sorry.

FM>> Andy

>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:Jerry.Jalenak@LABONE.com]
>>> Sent: 21 June 2002 14:03
>>> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
>>> Subject: RE: MOD_JK Problem ?
>>>
>>>
>>> Sounds like I need to back off from 4.1.3beta and go back to the last 
>>> 4.0.x build.
>>>
>>> Thanks!
>>>
>>> Jerry Jalenak
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Turner, John [mailto:JTurner@AAS.com]
>>> Sent: Friday, June 21, 2002 7:58 AM
>>> To: 'Tomcat Users List'
>>> Subject: RE: MOD_JK Problem ?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> According to this thread, there seems to be a problem with mod_jk and 
>>> the latest apache (2.0.39):
>>>
>>> http://mailman.real-time.com/pipermail/tomcat-users/2002-June/069534.h
>>> tml
>>>
>>> John Turner
>>> jturner@aas.com
>>> http://www.aas.com
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Jerry Jalenak [mailto:Jerry.Jalenak@LABONE.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 20, 2002 7:50 PM
>>> To: 'tomcat-user@jakarta.apache.org'
>>> Subject: MOD_JK Problem ?
>>>
>>>
>>> All,
>>>
>>> I've been trying to get the following configuration to work.
>>>
>>>       Windows NT
>>>       Apache 2.0.39
>>>       Tomcat 4.1.3 beta
>>>
>>> Separately, I can see the Apache default 'Welcome' by going to 
>>> http://localhost; in a similar vein I can see Tomcat's default 
>>> 'Welcome' by going to http://localhost:8080/index.jsp.  What I can't 
>>> make work is seeing
>>> Tomcat's 'Welcome' page by going to http://localhost/index.jsp
>>> (or any other
>>> path for that matter!).  I've rebuilt the connectors for Tomcat, download
>>> the mod_jk.dll from www.acg-gmbh.de/mod_jk, and set up my
>>> workers.properties
>>> and mod_jk.conf files (similar to what I used under Tomcat 3.3.1
>>> - maybe the
>>> problem?)  Does anyone have any ideas why I can't see my JSP pages
FM> without
>>> needing to specify the port?
>>>
>>> Thanks in advance!
>>>
>>> Jerry
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 Jacob                            mailto:hoju@visi.com


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