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Posted to dev@ofbiz.apache.org by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com> on 2009/03/13 07:57:39 UTC
Board Report Mar 2009
I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
available here:
http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
better and more complete!
-David
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:35 PM, Adam Heath wrote:
> Adam Heath wrote:
>> David E Jones wrote:
>>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It
>>> is
>>> available here:
>>>
>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>>
>>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left
>>> before I
>>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>>> better and more complete!
>>
>> +0
>>
>> Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks. Then I'll change to
>> +1.
>
> Actually, now that I think about it, before we make that release
> branch, we should make a concerted effort to make certain we are using
> the latest versions of any library we have in OfBiz.
This thread isn't really about the release branch, it's about the
board report (and I guess the +1 voting like thing is not really
voting and just a way of expressing support). The board report only
mentions "planning on" a release branch at the end of March.
There will certainly be separate threads and a voting thread about the
actual release branch.
-David
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Adam Heath <do...@brainfood.com>.
Adam Heath wrote:
> David E Jones wrote:
>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
>> available here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>
>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>> better and more complete!
>
> +0
>
> Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks. Then I'll change to +1.
Actually, now that I think about it, before we make that release
branch, we should make a concerted effort to make certain we are using
the latest versions of any library we have in OfBiz.
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Ean Schuessler <ea...@brainfood.com>.
> David E Jones wrote:
> > I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> > available here:
> >
> > http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
----- "Adam Heath" wrote:
> Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks. Then I'll change to +1.
This looks good to me.
--
Ean Schuessler, CTO Brainfood.com
ean@brainfood.com - http://www.brainfood.com - 214-720-0700 x 315
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Adam Heath <do...@brainfood.com>.
David E Jones wrote:
>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
+0
Need to pass this by Ean, see what he thinks. Then I'll change to +1.
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by "risalitim@gmail.com" <ri...@gmail.com>.
+1
Il giorno 13/mar/09, alle ore 07:57, David E Jones ha scritto:
>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It
> is available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before
> I have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Ashish Vijaywargiya <as...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
Board report looks good to me.
+1
--
Ashish
David E Jones wrote:
>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Jacopo Cappellato <ja...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
+1
On Mar 13, 2009, at 7:57 AM, David E Jones wrote:
>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It
> is available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before
> I have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Jacques Le Roux <ja...@les7arts.com>.
Just one question, what PRC stands for in "but unless we somehow made that official ASF infrastructure there are PRC as well as
survivability issues with it" ?
Ha, I found it : Public Relation Commitee (I found a clue in the previous report : Ted Husted :o)
Jacques
From: "David E Jones" <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>
>
> I'm confused, do you mean aside from the issues I listed in my initial write up (that was included in the board report)?
>
> In addition to those issues, for Confluence (docs.ofbiz.org) there is no sense investing time in migrating it to cwiki.apache.org
> if we're only going to move it to an OFBiz instance running somewhere in a few months.
>
> Also, to complicate things further we still need to figure out where the demo instance of OFBiz and the instance we'll use to
> manage the project (replacing Jira, Confluence, possibly the web site and various other things) will be hosted. The answer to
> that question may help with some of these other issues.
>
> If infra can find a place, they could setup a demo instance right away (there is nothing move for that... just checkout, build,
> install, run)... but I don't know if they really have a place and I'm not sure the Hudson spaces will be adequate for it.
>
> The API and daily builds are probably easier, and there isn't really anything to move for those I don't think... just setting it
> up based on the OFBiz SVN repo.
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
>> David,
>> I copied the intention on the private@ofbiz.apache.org list on Jan25.
>>
>> My intention was to first move and then change the installation to what
>> we wanted. At that time i did not see any problems from our end. Do we
>> have them now?
>>
>> Regards,
>> Hans
>>
>> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 01:38 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>> That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a
>>> conversation... though somewhat surprising.
>>>
>>> However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move? As
>>> described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...
>>> and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running many
>>> of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools
>>> (especially Confluence and Jira).
>>>
>>> Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the community
>>> before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by
>>> varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!
>>>
>>> In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF
>>> infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private
>>> mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation
>>> and coordination).
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>>
>>>> You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
>>>> infrastructure:
>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
>>>>> available here:
>>>>>
>>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>>>>
>>>>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left
>>>>> before I
>>>>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>>>>> better and more complete!
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>> --
>>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>>
>>>
>> --
>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>
>
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
I'm confused, do you mean aside from the issues I listed in my initial
write up (that was included in the board report)?
In addition to those issues, for Confluence (docs.ofbiz.org) there is
no sense investing time in migrating it to cwiki.apache.org if we're
only going to move it to an OFBiz instance running somewhere in a few
months.
Also, to complicate things further we still need to figure out where
the demo instance of OFBiz and the instance we'll use to manage the
project (replacing Jira, Confluence, possibly the web site and various
other things) will be hosted. The answer to that question may help
with some of these other issues.
If infra can find a place, they could setup a demo instance right away
(there is nothing move for that... just checkout, build, install,
run)... but I don't know if they really have a place and I'm not sure
the Hudson spaces will be adequate for it.
The API and daily builds are probably easier, and there isn't really
anything to move for those I don't think... just setting it up based
on the OFBiz SVN repo.
-David
On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:47 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> David,
> I copied the intention on the private@ofbiz.apache.org list on Jan25.
>
> My intention was to first move and then change the installation to
> what
> we wanted. At that time i did not see any problems from our end. Do we
> have them now?
>
> Regards,
> Hans
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 01:38 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a
>> conversation... though somewhat surprising.
>>
>> However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move?
>> As
>> described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...
>> and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running
>> many
>> of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools
>> (especially Confluence and Jira).
>>
>> Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the
>> community
>> before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by
>> varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!
>>
>> In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF
>> infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private
>> mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation
>> and coordination).
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>>
>>> You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
>>> infrastructure:
>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
>>>
>>>
>>> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>>>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009.
>>>> It is
>>>> available here:
>>>>
>>>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>>>
>>>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left
>>>> before I
>>>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>>>> better and more complete!
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>> --
>>> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>>>
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>.
David,
I copied the intention on the private@ofbiz.apache.org list on Jan25.
My intention was to first move and then change the installation to what
we wanted. At that time i did not see any problems from our end. Do we
have them now?
Regards,
Hans
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 01:38 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a
> conversation... though somewhat surprising.
>
> However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move? As
> described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...
> and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running many
> of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools
> (especially Confluence and Jira).
>
> Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the community
> before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by
> varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!
>
> In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF
> infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private
> mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation
> and coordination).
>
> -David
>
>
> On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
>
> > You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
> > infrastructure:
> > https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
> >
> >
> > On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> >> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> >> available here:
> >>
> >> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
> >>
> >> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left
> >> before I
> >> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> >> better and more complete!
> >>
> >> -David
> >>
> > --
> > Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
> >
>
--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by David E Jones <da...@hotwaxmedia.com>.
That's an interesting link, and an interesting start of a
conversation... though somewhat surprising.
However, what do you mean when you wrote that we are ready to move? As
described in the board report there are various barriers to a move...
and this is complicated quite a bit by wanting to move to running many
of these things on OFBiz instead of on existing ASF infra tools
(especially Confluence and Jira).
Whatever the case... could we at least coordinate within the community
before approaching infra? They're going to get pretty confused by
varied and inconsistent requests coming from OFBiz!
In the last few days I heard of a couple of people approaching ASF
infra without any mention of it on the dev or at least the private
mailing lists (though I think dev IS the place for this conversation
and coordination).
-David
On Mar 13, 2009, at 1:31 AM, Hans Bakker wrote:
> You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
> infrastructure:
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
>
>
> On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
>> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
>> available here:
>>
>> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>>
>> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left
>> before I
>> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
>> better and more complete!
>>
>> -David
>>
> --
> Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
>
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Hans Bakker <ma...@antwebsystems.com>.
You might want to mention the issue i raised about the Apache
infrastructure:
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-1877
On Fri, 2009-03-13 at 00:57 -0600, David E Jones wrote:
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>
--
Antwebsystems.com: Quality OFBiz services for competitive rates
Re: Board Report Mar 2009
Posted by Adrian Crum <ad...@hlmksw.com>.
+1
-Adrian
David E Jones wrote:
>
> I wrote an early rough draft for the Board Report for Mar 2009. It is
> available here:
>
> http://docs.ofbiz.org/display/OFBADMIN/ASF+Board+Report+2009-03
>
> This is not finalized yet and there are a couple of days left before I
> have to submit it, so please send comments and thoughts to make it
> better and more complete!
>
> -David
>
>