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Separate module for custom backend code and UI

I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now but UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
So,
I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend and I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of the box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford it :)

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Taher Alkhateeb <sl...@gmail.com>.
You can simply create your own theme, that would customize the interface
heavily while utilizing the DSL that comes with OFBiz

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018, 8:11 PM gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Rajesh! As of now I'm just looking to use my UI instead of out of
> the box, so was checking how can I do that or the best way of doing that.
>
> On 2018/06/01 15:41:46, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Gaurav ,
> >
> > In my case i have built an backend application using by favorite
> > platform that communicates to OFBiz using XML/RPC .
> >
> > my backend speaks to frontend using JSON and to backend
> > ofbiz webservices using XML/RPC.
> >
> >
> > This is one of the "options" .
> >
> > Please note since XML/RPC or SOAP is language-agnostic you
> > could use your favorite backend tool/framework to talk to backend.
> >
> > Things that i miss in this approach are:
> > (1) Seamless user session handling .
> > (2) Lack of transaction control.
> >       ( eg if you do 5 things in XML/RPC and 1 to 4 commits in DB and
> your
> >        5 things fails , there is no easy way to undo/rollback 1 to 4,
> this
> > is becoz
> >        each webservice is running in its on transaction , there is no way
> > to bundle
> >        N number of webservices call in one transaction context )
> >
> > pls note these are not limitation of OFBiz but of this approach.
> >
> >
> > regds
> > mallah.
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:52 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <gauravjlj@gmail.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I'm not quite sure at that moment but my primary goal is to build my
> own
> > > UI, can you just what might be the options for me.
> > >
> > > On 2018/05/31 19:15:06, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > > >
> > > > Senior/experienced members might suggest more.
> > > >
> > > > It would also help if you could tell us more about your primary
> > > > development setup like web-framework , frontend layer etc.
> > > >
> > > > OFBiz is a very flexible and open system hence you can apply
> > > > your own choice regarding how to integrate it, initial learning curve
> > > > is bit high.
> > > > Documentation can be seen in various links under :
> > > > http://ofbiz.apache.org/  --> DOCS
> > > >
> > > > If you are comfortable with database schemas you may
> > > > browse  ,
> > > >
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Data+Model+Diagrams
> > > > to get idea of various entities and relationships.
> > > >
> > > > I have been playing around with OFBiz for past 6-7 months and i feel
> > > > comfortable now.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > Regds
> > > > mallah.
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:15 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to
> > > redirect
> > > > > me to documentation for this or something to start with and to
> > > understand
> > > > > this stuff.
> > > > >
> > > > > On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> > > > > > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> > > > > > I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core
> > > backend.
> > > > > > I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of
> them
> > > .
> > > > > >
> > > > > > regds
> > > > > > mallah.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > > > > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > > > > > wrote:
> > > > > >
> > > > > > > I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for
> the
> > > now
> > > > > but
> > > > > > > UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > > > > > > So,
> > > > > > > I would be having many changing in business logic in
> > > backend/frontend
> > > > > and
> > > > > > > I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to
> build a
> > > top
> > > > > > > layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So
> out
> > > of
> > > > > the
> > > > > > > box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if
> any
> > > new
> > > > > > > release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system.
> Is
> > > that
> > > > > > > possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't
> > > afford
> > > > > it :)
> > > > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by ga...@gmail.com, ga...@gmail.com.
Thanks Rajesh! As of now I'm just looking to use my UI instead of out of the box, so was checking how can I do that or the best way of doing that.

On 2018/06/01 15:41:46, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Gaurav ,
> 
> In my case i have built an backend application using by favorite
> platform that communicates to OFBiz using XML/RPC .
> 
> my backend speaks to frontend using JSON and to backend
> ofbiz webservices using XML/RPC.
> 
> 
> This is one of the "options" .
> 
> Please note since XML/RPC or SOAP is language-agnostic you
> could use your favorite backend tool/framework to talk to backend.
> 
> Things that i miss in this approach are:
> (1) Seamless user session handling .
> (2) Lack of transaction control.
>       ( eg if you do 5 things in XML/RPC and 1 to 4 commits in DB and your
>        5 things fails , there is no easy way to undo/rollback 1 to 4, this
> is becoz
>        each webservice is running in its on transaction , there is no way
> to bundle
>        N number of webservices call in one transaction context )
> 
> pls note these are not limitation of OFBiz but of this approach.
> 
> 
> regds
> mallah.
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:52 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I'm not quite sure at that moment but my primary goal is to build my own
> > UI, can you just what might be the options for me.
> >
> > On 2018/05/31 19:15:06, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > >
> > > Senior/experienced members might suggest more.
> > >
> > > It would also help if you could tell us more about your primary
> > > development setup like web-framework , frontend layer etc.
> > >
> > > OFBiz is a very flexible and open system hence you can apply
> > > your own choice regarding how to integrate it, initial learning curve
> > > is bit high.
> > > Documentation can be seen in various links under :
> > > http://ofbiz.apache.org/  --> DOCS
> > >
> > > If you are comfortable with database schemas you may
> > > browse  ,
> > > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Data+Model+Diagrams
> > > to get idea of various entities and relationships.
> > >
> > > I have been playing around with OFBiz for past 6-7 months and i feel
> > > comfortable now.
> > >
> > >
> > > Regds
> > > mallah.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:15 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to
> > redirect
> > > > me to documentation for this or something to start with and to
> > understand
> > > > this stuff.
> > > >
> > > > On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > > > >
> > > > > Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> > > > > I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core
> > backend.
> > > > > I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them
> > .
> > > > >
> > > > > regds
> > > > > mallah.
> > > > >
> > > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > > > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the
> > now
> > > > but
> > > > > > UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > > > > > So,
> > > > > > I would be having many changing in business logic in
> > backend/frontend
> > > > and
> > > > > > I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a
> > top
> > > > > > layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out
> > of
> > > > the
> > > > > > box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any
> > new
> > > > > > release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is
> > that
> > > > > > possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't
> > afford
> > > > it :)
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Gaurav ,

In my case i have built an backend application using by favorite
platform that communicates to OFBiz using XML/RPC .

my backend speaks to frontend using JSON and to backend
ofbiz webservices using XML/RPC.


This is one of the "options" .

Please note since XML/RPC or SOAP is language-agnostic you
could use your favorite backend tool/framework to talk to backend.

Things that i miss in this approach are:
(1) Seamless user session handling .
(2) Lack of transaction control.
      ( eg if you do 5 things in XML/RPC and 1 to 4 commits in DB and your
       5 things fails , there is no easy way to undo/rollback 1 to 4, this
is becoz
       each webservice is running in its on transaction , there is no way
to bundle
       N number of webservices call in one transaction context )

pls note these are not limitation of OFBiz but of this approach.


regds
mallah.



On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 8:52 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I'm not quite sure at that moment but my primary goal is to build my own
> UI, can you just what might be the options for me.
>
> On 2018/05/31 19:15:06, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> >
> > Senior/experienced members might suggest more.
> >
> > It would also help if you could tell us more about your primary
> > development setup like web-framework , frontend layer etc.
> >
> > OFBiz is a very flexible and open system hence you can apply
> > your own choice regarding how to integrate it, initial learning curve
> > is bit high.
> > Documentation can be seen in various links under :
> > http://ofbiz.apache.org/  --> DOCS
> >
> > If you are comfortable with database schemas you may
> > browse  ,
> > https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Data+Model+Diagrams
> > to get idea of various entities and relationships.
> >
> > I have been playing around with OFBiz for past 6-7 months and i feel
> > comfortable now.
> >
> >
> > Regds
> > mallah.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:15 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to
> redirect
> > > me to documentation for this or something to start with and to
> understand
> > > this stuff.
> > >
> > > On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > > >
> > > > Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> > > > I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core
> backend.
> > > > I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them
> .
> > > >
> > > > regds
> > > > mallah.
> > > >
> > > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the
> now
> > > but
> > > > > UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > > > > So,
> > > > > I would be having many changing in business logic in
> backend/frontend
> > > and
> > > > > I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a
> top
> > > > > layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out
> of
> > > the
> > > > > box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any
> new
> > > > > release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is
> that
> > > > > possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't
> afford
> > > it :)
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> >
>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by ga...@gmail.com, ga...@gmail.com.
I'm not quite sure at that moment but my primary goal is to build my own UI, can you just what might be the options for me.

On 2018/05/31 19:15:06, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Gauravjlj ,
> 
> Senior/experienced members might suggest more.
> 
> It would also help if you could tell us more about your primary
> development setup like web-framework , frontend layer etc.
> 
> OFBiz is a very flexible and open system hence you can apply
> your own choice regarding how to integrate it, initial learning curve
> is bit high.
> Documentation can be seen in various links under :
> http://ofbiz.apache.org/  --> DOCS
> 
> If you are comfortable with database schemas you may
> browse  ,
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Data+Model+Diagrams
> to get idea of various entities and relationships.
> 
> I have been playing around with OFBiz for past 6-7 months and i feel
> comfortable now.
> 
> 
> Regds
> mallah.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:15 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to redirect
> > me to documentation for this or something to start with and to understand
> > this stuff.
> >
> > On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > >
> > > Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> > > I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
> > > I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
> > >
> > > regds
> > > mallah.
> > >
> > > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now
> > but
> > > > UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > > > So,
> > > > I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend
> > and
> > > > I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
> > > > layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of
> > the
> > > > box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> > > > release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
> > > > possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford
> > it :)
> > > >
> > >
> >
> 

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Gauravjlj ,

Senior/experienced members might suggest more.

It would also help if you could tell us more about your primary
development setup like web-framework , frontend layer etc.

OFBiz is a very flexible and open system hence you can apply
your own choice regarding how to integrate it, initial learning curve
is bit high.
Documentation can be seen in various links under :
http://ofbiz.apache.org/  --> DOCS

If you are comfortable with database schemas you may
browse  ,
https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Data+Model+Diagrams
to get idea of various entities and relationships.

I have been playing around with OFBiz for past 6-7 months and i feel
comfortable now.


Regds
mallah.






On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 12:15 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to redirect
> me to documentation for this or something to start with and to understand
> this stuff.
>
> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote:
> > Hi Gauravjlj ,
> >
> > Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> > I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
> > I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
> >
> > regds
> > mallah.
> >
> > On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now
> but
> > > UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > > So,
> > > I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend
> and
> > > I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
> > > layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of
> the
> > > box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> > > release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
> > > possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford
> it :)
> > >
> >
>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Aditya ,
Thanks for the link to Service Engine Guide , looks nice at a cursory
glance.

Regds
mallah.

On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 11:10 AM, Aditya Sharma <
aditya.sharma@hotwaxsystems.com> wrote:

> Hi Gauravjlj,
>
> You can have your own custom plugin with custom UI. Refer the following
> link
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/
> OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide+for+16.11#OFBizTutorial-
> ABeginnersDevelopmentGuidefor16.11-CustomizingUserInterface
>
> You can override core services & events according to your custom needs in
> your component.
>
> Refer the following link:
>
> https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Service+Engine+Guide
>
> HTH
>
> Thanks and Regards,
>
> *Aditya Sharma* | Enterprise Software Engineer
> HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems
> <http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>
>
> <https://www.linkedin.com/in/aditya-sharma-78291810a/>
>
>
> On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:44 AM Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com>
> wrote:
>
> > May be I can be more specific in the ideal implementation.
> >
> > As there are lots of commercial templates (some are of decent quality,
> but
> > still quite buggy) for various carts in the marketplace, may be we can
> have
> > most of the up-front front end work done by buying these templates and
> just
> > work on integrating the template into OFBiz.
> >
> > This should reduce a substantial portion of effort needed to have a
> modern
> > front end (without being an expert in CSS, JavaScript, JQuery, blah blah
> > blah).
> >
> > Charles
> >
> > > On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:08 AM, Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com>
> wrote:
> > >
> > > Hello all
> > >
> > > I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too.
> > >
> > > I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not
> > easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only
> > choice we have is OpenCart.
> > >
> > > Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap.
> > >
> > > Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a
> > look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop
> > within OFBiz.
> > >
> > > Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle
> > the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a
> > services company to do a modern front end for us?
> > >
> > > Much thx!
> > > Charles
> > >
> > >> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>
> > >> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to
> > redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to
> > understand this stuff.
> > >>
> > >>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> > >>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
> > >>>
> > >>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> > >>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core
> backend.
> > >>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them
> .
> > >>>
> > >>> regds
> > >>> mallah.
> > >>>
> > >>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> > gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> > >>> wrote:
> > >>>
> > >>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the
> now
> > but
> > >>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > >>>> So,
> > >>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in
> backend/frontend
> > and
> > >>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a
> top
> > >>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out
> of
> > the
> > >>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> > >>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is
> that
> > >>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford
> > it :)
> > >>>>
> > >>>
> > >
> >
> >
>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Aditya Sharma <ad...@hotwaxsystems.com>.
Hi Gauravjlj,

You can have your own custom plugin with custom UI. Refer the following link

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/OFBiz+Tutorial+-+A+Beginners+Development+Guide+for+16.11#OFBizTutorial-ABeginnersDevelopmentGuidefor16.11-CustomizingUserInterface

You can override core services & events according to your custom needs in
your component.

Refer the following link:

https://cwiki.apache.org/confluence/display/OFBIZ/Service+Engine+Guide

HTH

Thanks and Regards,

*Aditya Sharma* | Enterprise Software Engineer
HotWax Commerce <http://www.hotwax.co/> by HotWax Systems
<http://www.hotwaxsystems.com/>

<https://www.linkedin.com/in/aditya-sharma-78291810a/>


On Fri, Jun 1, 2018 at 5:44 AM Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com> wrote:

> May be I can be more specific in the ideal implementation.
>
> As there are lots of commercial templates (some are of decent quality, but
> still quite buggy) for various carts in the marketplace, may be we can have
> most of the up-front front end work done by buying these templates and just
> work on integrating the template into OFBiz.
>
> This should reduce a substantial portion of effort needed to have a modern
> front end (without being an expert in CSS, JavaScript, JQuery, blah blah
> blah).
>
> Charles
>
> > On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:08 AM, Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com> wrote:
> >
> > Hello all
> >
> > I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too.
> >
> > I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not
> easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only
> choice we have is OpenCart.
> >
> > Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap.
> >
> > Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a
> look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop
> within OFBiz.
> >
> > Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle
> the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a
> services company to do a modern front end for us?
> >
> > Much thx!
> > Charles
> >
> >> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to
> redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to
> understand this stuff.
> >>
> >>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
> >>>
> >>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> >>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
> >>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
> >>>
> >>> regds
> >>> mallah.
> >>>
> >>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <
> gauravjlj@gmail.com>
> >>> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now
> but
> >>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> >>>> So,
> >>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend
> and
> >>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
> >>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of
> the
> >>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> >>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
> >>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford
> it :)
> >>>>
> >>>
> >
>
>

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com>.
May be I can be more specific in the ideal implementation. 

As there are lots of commercial templates (some are of decent quality, but still quite buggy) for various carts in the marketplace, may be we can have most of the up-front front end work done by buying these templates and just work on integrating the template into OFBiz. 

This should reduce a substantial portion of effort needed to have a modern front end (without being an expert in CSS, JavaScript, JQuery, blah blah blah). 

Charles

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 8:08 AM, Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com> wrote:
> 
> Hello all
> 
> I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too. 
> 
> I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only choice we have is OpenCart. 
> 
> Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap. 
> 
> Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop within OFBiz. 
> 
> Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a services company to do a modern front end for us?
> 
> Much thx!
> Charles
> 
>> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to understand this stuff.
>> 
>>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
>>> 
>>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
>>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
>>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
>>> 
>>> regds
>>> mallah.
>>> 
>>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now but
>>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
>>>> So,
>>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend and
>>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
>>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of the
>>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
>>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
>>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford it :)
>>>> 
>>> 
> 


Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Charles LC So <ch...@tourdefarm.com>.
Hello all

I’m evaluating the same aspect of OFBiz too. 

I evaluated OFBiz 10 years ago. At that time the front end was not easily changed, and we need to have our Store online ASAP, so the only choice we have is OpenCart. 

Gosh, as some of us swear, OC is total crap. 

Now our shop has been live for almost 6 years, and we want to take a look at OFBiz again, and hopefully re-implement what we need in our shop within OFBiz. 

Is there a templating framework (or something that enables us to handle the needs of B2C) within OFBiz for the DIYers now, or do we need to pay a services company to do a modern front end for us?

Much thx!
Charles

> On 1 Jun 2018, at 2:45 AM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to understand this stuff.
> 
>> On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote: 
>> Hi Gauravjlj ,
>> 
>> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
>> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
>> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
>> 
>> regds
>> mallah.
>> 
>> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now but
>>> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
>>> So,
>>> I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend and
>>> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
>>> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of the
>>> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
>>> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
>>> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford it :)
>>> 
>> 


Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by ga...@gmail.com, ga...@gmail.com.
Thanks Rajesh. I'm kind of newbie for ofbiz, would you be kind to redirect me to documentation for this or something to start with and to understand this stuff.

On 2018/05/31 15:46:17, Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com> wrote: 
> Hi Gauravjlj ,
> 
> Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
> I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
> I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .
> 
> regds
> mallah.
> 
> On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> 
> > I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now but
> > UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> > So,
> > I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend and
> > I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
> > layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of the
> > box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> > release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
> > possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford it :)
> >
> 

Re: Separate module for custom backend code and UI

Posted by Rajesh Mallah <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Gauravjlj ,

Its very much possible. And there are multiple solutions.
I am doing the same in my own way utilizing OFBiz as the core backend.
I use XML/RPC to interact with OFBiz webservices there 3600+ of them .

regds
mallah.

On Thu, May 31, 2018 at 8:38 PM, gauravjlj@gmail.com <ga...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> I want to use ofbiz as an online eCommerce store at least for the now but
> UI seems very old and can't fit in today's time.
> So,
> I would be having many changing in business logic in backend/frontend and
> I don't want to change the existing logic rather I want to build a top
> layer which will include my new UI and custom backend code, So out of the
> box code remains intact in that modular approach and also if any new
> release comes then it would be very easy to upgrade my system. Is that
> possible. We do the same thing in Oracle Commerce but I can't afford it :)
>