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servlet 3.1 support?
So I read that the servlet 3.1 spec (and related EL specs, etc) is to go
final in "the second half of 2012".
Approximately when should we expect a Tomcat that supports the new specs
-- in terms of number of months after the specs' final release?
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Jess Holle
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Re: servlet 3.1 support?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
On 13/03/2012 12:47, Jess Holle wrote:
> So I read that the servlet 3.1 spec (and related EL specs, etc) is to go
> final in "the second half of 2012".
Those dates are no longer valid. The current date is Q1 2013.
> Approximately when should we expect a Tomcat that supports the new specs
> -- in terms of number of months after the specs' final release?
How long is a piece of string?
So far, none of the big Servlet 3.1 changes have made their way into trunk.
Mark
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Re: servlet 3.1 support?
Posted by Mark Thomas <ma...@apache.org>.
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On 13/03/2012 14:32, Pid wrote:
> On 13/03/2012 14:06, Jess Holle wrote:
>> On 3/13/2012 8:49 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>>> Jess,
>>>
>>> On 3/13/12 8:47 AM, Jess Holle wrote:
>>>> So I read that the servlet 3.1 spec (and related EL specs,
>>>> etc) is to go final in "the second half of 2012".
>>>>
>>>> Approximately when should we expect a Tomcat that supports
>>>> the new specs -- in terms of number of months after the
>>>> specs' final release?
>>> There's no guarantee of anything. Remember: everyone around
>>> here is a volunteer, and there's no mandated schedule.
>> Of course! This is an open-source community, not a commercial
>> enterprise. Even if it were a commercial enterprise, they get
>> their schedules wrong more often than they get them right!
>>> Here are some dates that may be relevant, but again, everything
>>> is up in the air:
>>>
>>> Servlet 3.0 spec finalized: December 2009 Tomcat 7.0.0
>>> (beta) released: June 2010 Tomcat 7.0.6 (first non-beta):
>>> January 2011
>>>
>>> Now, servlet 3.0 was a fairly big jump from 2.5 and 3.0->3.1 is
>>> likely to be less effort in general. As happened with Tomcat
>>> 7.0.x, Tomcat 8.0.x (first to support spec 3.1) is currently in
>>> active development and lots of little things (mostly
>>> clarifications) from 3.1 have already gone into the trunk.
>> I am hoping that the delay between 3.1 and non-beta 8.0.x isn't
>> 12-13 months as 3.1 is a much smaller step, but I understand
>> there are no guarantees. It is good to know that 8.0.x
>> development is ongoing, though.
>
> Try it out, it's there in tomcat/trunk.
And includes WebSocket support (soon to be ported to 7.0.x).
Mark
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Re: servlet 3.1 support?
Posted by Pid <pi...@pidster.com>.
On 13/03/2012 14:06, Jess Holle wrote:
> On 3/13/2012 8:49 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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>> Jess,
>>
>> On 3/13/12 8:47 AM, Jess Holle wrote:
>>> So I read that the servlet 3.1 spec (and related EL specs, etc) is
>>> to go final in "the second half of 2012".
>>>
>>> Approximately when should we expect a Tomcat that supports the new
>>> specs -- in terms of number of months after the specs' final
>>> release?
>> There's no guarantee of anything. Remember: everyone around here is a
>> volunteer, and there's no mandated schedule.
> Of course! This is an open-source community, not a commercial
> enterprise. Even if it were a commercial enterprise, they get their
> schedules wrong more often than they get them right!
>> Here are some dates that may be relevant, but again, everything is up
>> in the air:
>>
>> Servlet 3.0 spec finalized: December 2009
>> Tomcat 7.0.0 (beta) released: June 2010
>> Tomcat 7.0.6 (first non-beta): January 2011
>>
>> Now, servlet 3.0 was a fairly big jump from 2.5 and 3.0->3.1 is likely
>> to be less effort in general. As happened with Tomcat 7.0.x, Tomcat
>> 8.0.x (first to support spec 3.1) is currently in active development
>> and lots of little things (mostly clarifications) from 3.1 have
>> already gone into the trunk.
> I am hoping that the delay between 3.1 and non-beta 8.0.x isn't 12-13
> months as 3.1 is a much smaller step, but I understand there are no
> guarantees. It is good to know that 8.0.x development is ongoing, though.
Try it out, it's there in tomcat/trunk.
p
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Re: servlet 3.1 support?
Posted by Jess Holle <je...@ptc.com>.
On 3/13/2012 8:49 AM, Christopher Schultz wrote:
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> Jess,
>
> On 3/13/12 8:47 AM, Jess Holle wrote:
>> So I read that the servlet 3.1 spec (and related EL specs, etc) is
>> to go final in "the second half of 2012".
>>
>> Approximately when should we expect a Tomcat that supports the new
>> specs -- in terms of number of months after the specs' final
>> release?
> There's no guarantee of anything. Remember: everyone around here is a
> volunteer, and there's no mandated schedule.
Of course! This is an open-source community, not a commercial
enterprise. Even if it were a commercial enterprise, they get their
schedules wrong more often than they get them right!
> Here are some dates that may be relevant, but again, everything is up
> in the air:
>
> Servlet 3.0 spec finalized: December 2009
> Tomcat 7.0.0 (beta) released: June 2010
> Tomcat 7.0.6 (first non-beta): January 2011
>
> Now, servlet 3.0 was a fairly big jump from 2.5 and 3.0->3.1 is likely
> to be less effort in general. As happened with Tomcat 7.0.x, Tomcat
> 8.0.x (first to support spec 3.1) is currently in active development
> and lots of little things (mostly clarifications) from 3.1 have
> already gone into the trunk.
I am hoping that the delay between 3.1 and non-beta 8.0.x isn't 12-13
months as 3.1 is a much smaller step, but I understand there are no
guarantees. It is good to know that 8.0.x development is ongoing, though.
--
Jess Holle
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Re: servlet 3.1 support?
Posted by Christopher Schultz <ch...@christopherschultz.net>.
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Jess,
On 3/13/12 8:47 AM, Jess Holle wrote:
> So I read that the servlet 3.1 spec (and related EL specs, etc) is
> to go final in "the second half of 2012".
>
> Approximately when should we expect a Tomcat that supports the new
> specs -- in terms of number of months after the specs' final
> release?
There's no guarantee of anything. Remember: everyone around here is a
volunteer, and there's no mandated schedule.
Here are some dates that may be relevant, but again, everything is up
in the air:
Servlet 3.0 spec finalized: December 2009
Tomcat 7.0.0 (beta) released: June 2010
Tomcat 7.0.6 (first non-beta): January 2011
Now, servlet 3.0 was a fairly big jump from 2.5 and 3.0->3.1 is likely
to be less effort in general. As happened with Tomcat 7.0.x, Tomcat
8.0.x (first to support spec 3.1) is currently in active development
and lots of little things (mostly clarifications) from 3.1 have
already gone into the trunk.
If you're interested in helping out, patches are always welcome ;)
- -chris
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