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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by Mikael St�ldal <mi...@home.se> on 2001/06/29 10:51:26 UTC
Why XSP?
What is the need for XSP? Why not use XSLT with extensions instead?
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Re: Why XSP?
Posted by Frans Thamura <ft...@yahoo.com>.
Yah, after I try Cocoon 2, I prefer XSP still with XML extension. like
cocoon 1.82.
and advance the feature like create a lot of logicsheet references
like cinclude, session naming space is good, why in Cocoon 2 change to
xspsession
Strange yah..
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Subject: Why XSP?
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RE: Why XSP?
Posted by Leigh Dodds <ld...@ingenta.com>.
Actually thats not quite what the original poster was asking.
You're correct in that XSLT is for transforms, and XSP compares
favourably with JSP.
However you can extend XSLT using extension functions and elements,
thereby adding to its capabilities. So with XSLT alone you *do* have
a way to invoke arbitrary code during your transforms (although you
should take care not to introduce side-effects).
That said, XSP generates compiled classes, whereas most XSLT
processors don't do anything similar; although the Sun Translet
technology does go someway towards this.
The advantage of XSP is mainly its a cleaner form of JSP, the layering
seems better defined, and the syntax easier to read.
The other advantage of XSP over XSLT is that it exposes the HTTP
environment (i.e. the same info as in JSP/servlets), whereas you'd
have to produce some custom implementation to achieve that with
XSLT alone.
HtH,
L.
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: Eduardo Yanez [mailto:eyanez@eversystems.com]
> Sent: 03 July 2001 16:56
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: RE: Why XSP?
>
>
> Hi Mikael,
>
> XSLT is just a transforming language, you can use it for transform any xml
> document to any other textual format (html, txt, svg, pdf, etc).
>
> On the other side you can compare XSP with JSP, they technologies for
> dynamic content generation, JSP allow you to create servlets easily for
> dynamic html generation, with XSP you have dynamic XML generation!.
>
> In fact XSP uses XSLT in the transformers (C2) and in the XSP processor
> (C1).
>
> I hope the explanation aids you.
>
> Regards,
> Eduardo Yanez.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mikael Steldal [mailto:mikael.staldal@home.se]
> Sent: Viernes, 29 de Junio de 2001 04:51 a.m.
> To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Why XSP?
>
>
> What is the need for XSP? Why not use XSLT with extensions instead?
>
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RE: Why XSP?
Posted by Eduardo Yanez <ey...@eversystems.com>.
Hi Mikael,
XSLT is just a transforming language, you can use it for transform any xml
document to any other textual format (html, txt, svg, pdf, etc).
On the other side you can compare XSP with JSP, they technologies for
dynamic content generation, JSP allow you to create servlets easily for
dynamic html generation, with XSP you have dynamic XML generation!.
In fact XSP uses XSLT in the transformers (C2) and in the XSP processor
(C1).
I hope the explanation aids you.
Regards,
Eduardo Yanez.
-----Original Message-----
From: Mikael Steldal [mailto:mikael.staldal@home.se]
Sent: Viernes, 29 de Junio de 2001 04:51 a.m.
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Subject: Why XSP?
What is the need for XSP? Why not use XSLT with extensions instead?
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Re: Why XSP?
Posted by Mohamed Ramzy <m_...@yahoo.com>.
hi
XSLT is just for transforming, but XSP, think about it
as your gateway to include any java code in ur file,
or importing any custom/not java class/classes to your
file...it is the gate!!
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