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[GitHub] [iceberg] jackye1995 opened a new pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

jackye1995 opened a new pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842


   continuation of #2832 
   
   Based on the discussion, proposing a way to refactor engines pages to accommodate more Iceberg support in the future.
   
   @rdblue @electrum please see if this version is better.


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[GitHub] [iceberg] jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#issuecomment-883004642


   @electrum this page is only there I believe for backwards compatibility, as there is no direct links to it. I can separate them into different pages.


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[GitHub] [iceberg] jackye1995 commented on a change in pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
jackye1995 commented on a change in pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#discussion_r677813496



##########
File path: site/mkdocs.yml
##########
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ plugins:
   - redirects:
       redirect_maps:
         'time-travel.md': 'spark-queries/#time-travel'
-        'presto.md': 'trino.md'
-  - markdownextradata  
+        'presto.md': 'prestodb.md'

Review comment:
       Based on what @electrum says, it seems to violate the Presto trademark if the link to Presto is linked to Trino. But I think it's also fine to remove it if we go with the current refactoring.




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[GitHub] [iceberg] rdblue commented on a change in pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
rdblue commented on a change in pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#discussion_r689127729



##########
File path: site/mkdocs.yml
##########
@@ -55,6 +55,7 @@ nav:
     - Blogs: blogs.md
     - Trademarks: trademarks.md
     - How to Release: how-to-release.md
+  - Getting Started: getting-started.md

Review comment:
       +1 for this.




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[GitHub] [iceberg] cwsteinbach commented on a change in pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
cwsteinbach commented on a change in pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#discussion_r690746728



##########
File path: site/docs/index.md
##########
@@ -20,8 +20,7 @@
 # ![Iceberg](img/Iceberg-logo.png)
 
 
-**Apache Iceberg is an open table format for huge analytic datasets.** Iceberg adds tables to Trino and Spark that use a high-performance format that works just like a SQL table.
-
+**Apache Iceberg is an open table format for huge analytic datasets.** Iceberg adds tables to compute engines including Spark, Trino, PrestoDB, Flink and Hive using a high-performance format that works just like a SQL table.

Review comment:
       s/high-performance format/high-performance table format/

##########
File path: site/docs/trino-prestodb.md
##########
@@ -17,4 +17,11 @@
 
 # Trino (formerly Presto SQL)
 
-The Iceberg connector is available with Trino. It is feature complete and usage details can be found in the [documentation](https://trino.io/docs/current/connector/iceberg.html)
+The Iceberg connector is available with PrestoSQL, which is rebranded as Trino since January 2021.

Review comment:
       The title already states that Trino used to be called Presto SQL, stating it again in the paragraph seems redundant. Please consider replacing this with: "The documentation for Iceberg's Trino connector has moved to the Trino website. Please consult the [Iceberg section](https://trino.io/docs/current/connector/iceberg.html) of the Trino docs for more information."

##########
File path: site/docs/getting-started.md
##########
@@ -17,10 +17,14 @@
 
 # Getting Started
 
-## Using Iceberg in Spark 3
-
 The latest version of Iceberg is [{{ versions.iceberg }}](./releases.md).
 
+Spark is currently the most feature-rich compute engine for Iceberg operations. 

Review comment:
       Please consider rewording: "We recommend using Spark to learn Iceberg concepts and features since it is currently the most feature-rich compute engine for Iceberg operations. However, if you prefer to start with a different engine, we ask that you consult the documentation for directions on using Iceberg with other compute engines. This documentation is located under the **Engines** tab."




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[GitHub] [iceberg] rdblue commented on a change in pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
rdblue commented on a change in pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#discussion_r689127622



##########
File path: site/mkdocs.yml
##########
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ plugins:
   - redirects:
       redirect_maps:
         'time-travel.md': 'spark-queries/#time-travel'
-        'presto.md': 'trino.md'
-  - markdownextradata  
+        'presto.md': 'prestodb.md'

Review comment:
       I think the redirect is fine because this is respecting the existing redirect. We should not refer to Trino as Presto any more, but I don't think that keeping a permalink (that is not referenced from our content) pointed consistently to the same engine is a violation of the Presto trademark.




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[GitHub] [iceberg] rdblue commented on a change in pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
rdblue commented on a change in pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#discussion_r689127661



##########
File path: site/docs/prestodb.md
##########
@@ -0,0 +1,20 @@
+<!--
+ - Licensed to the Apache Software Foundation (ASF) under one or more
+ - contributor license agreements.  See the NOTICE file distributed with
+ - this work for additional information regarding copyright ownership.
+ - The ASF licenses this file to You under the Apache License, Version 2.0
+ - (the "License"); you may not use this file except in compliance with
+ - the License.  You may obtain a copy of the License at
+ -
+ -   http://www.apache.org/licenses/LICENSE-2.0
+ -
+ - Unless required by applicable law or agreed to in writing, software
+ - distributed under the License is distributed on an "AS IS" BASIS,
+ - WITHOUT WARRANTIES OR CONDITIONS OF ANY KIND, either express or implied.
+ - See the License for the specific language governing permissions and
+ - limitations under the License.
+ -->
+
+# PrestoDB
+
+The Iceberg connector is available with PrestoDB. It is feature complete and usage details can be found in the [documentation](https://prestodb.io/docs/current/connector/iceberg.html)

Review comment:
       What is the value of having this page instead of linking to the PrestoDB documentation?




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[GitHub] [iceberg] cwsteinbach merged pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
cwsteinbach merged pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842


   


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[GitHub] [iceberg] findepi commented on a change in pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
findepi commented on a change in pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#discussion_r676193289



##########
File path: site/mkdocs.yml
##########
@@ -36,8 +36,8 @@ plugins:
   - redirects:
       redirect_maps:
         'time-travel.md': 'spark-queries/#time-travel'
-        'presto.md': 'trino.md'
-  - markdownextradata  
+        'presto.md': 'prestodb.md'

Review comment:
       That's a breaking change from content/links perspective.
   if you feel the redirect cannot stay, it feels safer to remove it, than change it




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[GitHub] [iceberg] cwsteinbach commented on a change in pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
cwsteinbach commented on a change in pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#discussion_r690746728



##########
File path: site/docs/index.md
##########
@@ -20,8 +20,7 @@
 # ![Iceberg](img/Iceberg-logo.png)
 
 
-**Apache Iceberg is an open table format for huge analytic datasets.** Iceberg adds tables to Trino and Spark that use a high-performance format that works just like a SQL table.
-
+**Apache Iceberg is an open table format for huge analytic datasets.** Iceberg adds tables to compute engines including Spark, Trino, PrestoDB, Flink and Hive using a high-performance format that works just like a SQL table.

Review comment:
       s/high-performance format/high-performance table format/

##########
File path: site/docs/trino-prestodb.md
##########
@@ -17,4 +17,11 @@
 
 # Trino (formerly Presto SQL)
 
-The Iceberg connector is available with Trino. It is feature complete and usage details can be found in the [documentation](https://trino.io/docs/current/connector/iceberg.html)
+The Iceberg connector is available with PrestoSQL, which is rebranded as Trino since January 2021.

Review comment:
       The title already states that Trino used to be called Presto SQL, stating it again in the paragraph seems redundant. Please consider replacing this with: "The documentation for Iceberg's Trino connector has moved to the Trino website. Please consult the [Iceberg section](https://trino.io/docs/current/connector/iceberg.html) of the Trino docs for more information."

##########
File path: site/docs/getting-started.md
##########
@@ -17,10 +17,14 @@
 
 # Getting Started
 
-## Using Iceberg in Spark 3
-
 The latest version of Iceberg is [{{ versions.iceberg }}](./releases.md).
 
+Spark is currently the most feature-rich compute engine for Iceberg operations. 

Review comment:
       Please consider rewording: "We recommend using Spark to learn Iceberg concepts and features since it is currently the most feature-rich compute engine for Iceberg operations. However, if you prefer to start with a different engine, we ask that you consult the documentation for directions on using Iceberg with other compute engines. This documentation is located under the **Engines** tab."




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[GitHub] [iceberg] jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#issuecomment-883004642


   @electrum this page is only there I believe for backwards compatibility, as there is no direct links to it. I can separate them into different pages.


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[GitHub] [iceberg] cwsteinbach merged pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
cwsteinbach merged pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842


   


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[GitHub] [iceberg] jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#issuecomment-887847557


   @rdblue any thoughts on this?


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[GitHub] [iceberg] jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842: Doc: refactor engines pages and add link to PrestoDB

Posted by GitBox <gi...@apache.org>.
jackye1995 commented on pull request #2842:
URL: https://github.com/apache/iceberg/pull/2842#issuecomment-883004642


   @electrum this page is only there I believe for backwards compatibility, as there is no direct links to it. I can separate them into different pages.


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