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Posted to dev@lucene.apache.org by "lajos@protulae.com" <la...@protulae.com> on 2013/10/02 12:34:13 UTC

Lucene/Solr 5?

Hi guys,

 

Your pending 4.5 release reminds me I wanted to ask - what is the expected timeframe for 5.0? Are we talking end of year? Q1 2014? Later?

 

I’m not asking for any commitment or firm date - I would just appreciate an indication of what y’all are thinking of right now.

 

Cheers,

 

L

Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Posted by Shawn Heisey <so...@elyograg.org>.
> The 4.x branch seems to be doing well enough, both from a stability
> perspective and momentum with new features.

I agree with this assessment. It is currently very easy to backport almost
all new functionality from trunk (5x) to the 4x branch. Although there are
some features unique to trunk, I don't think the list is extensive yet.

I thought that the switch to Java 7 in trunk would force a relatively
short time line to 5.0, but the Java 7 requirement itself was backported
to 4x, so that influence is no longer there.

> I'll offer a prediction: 5.0 will happen when the Lucene guys at
> Elasticsearch come up with some great new ideas for how to leapfrog Solr!
> (And then we watch how the Heliosearch guys respond to that!)

I still think that a serious push for 5.0 will not begin until backporting
small and medium sized code changes from trunk to 4x requires significant
manual intervention.

If the leapfrog situation happens as you describe, and the resulting Solr
changes can easily be backported to 4x, then I don't think it will spur a
new major release.

Thanks,
Shawn




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Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Posted by Yonik Seeley <yo...@heliosearch.com>.
On Wed, Jun 4, 2014 at 4:14 PM, Jack Krupansky <ja...@basetechnology.com> wrote:
> I'll offer a prediction: 5.0 will happen when the Lucene guys at
> Elasticsearch come up with some great new ideas for how to leapfrog Solr!
> (And then we watch how the Heliosearch guys respond to that!)

Well, today I'm working on native code faceting (single valued fields first...)

I'll be talking about it at Lucene/Solr Revolution provided my talk is
accepted.  You can throw up to 3 votes toward it here:
http://lucenerevolution.uservoice.com/forums/254256-internals-track/suggestions/5995635-native-code-and-off-heap-data-structures-for-solr

-Yonik
http://heliosearch.org - facet functions, subfacets, off-heap filters&fieldcache

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Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Posted by Alexandre Rafalovitch <ar...@gmail.com>.
I think Solr 5 should be a modularized deploy with plugins and plugin
registry. Either that or we will have to steal the Elephant logo from
the sister project and have to setup torrent-based software
distribution.

And I really wish HUE was a Java-based project. But, alas,....

Regards,
  Alex.
Personal website: http://www.outerthoughts.com/
Current project: http://www.solr-start.com/ - Accelerating your Solr proficiency


On Thu, Jun 5, 2014 at 11:35 PM, Shawn Heisey <so...@elyograg.org> wrote:
>> The 4.x branch seems to be doing well enough, both from a stability
>> perspective and momentum with new features.
>
> I agree with this assessment. It is currently very easy to backport almost
> all new functionality from trunk (5x) to the 4x branch. Although there are
> some features unique to trunk, I don't think the list is extensive yet.
>
> I thought that the switch to Java 7 in trunk would force a relatively
> short time line to 5.0, but the Java 7 requirement itself was backported
> to 4x, so that influence is no longer there.
>
>> I'll offer a prediction: 5.0 will happen when the Lucene guys at
>> Elasticsearch come up with some great new ideas for how to leapfrog Solr!
>> (And then we watch how the Heliosearch guys respond to that!)
>
> I still think that a serious push for 5.0 will not begin until backporting
> code changes from trunk to 4x requires signing manual intervention
>
>
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Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Posted by Shawn Heisey <so...@elyograg.org>.
> The 4.x branch seems to be doing well enough, both from a stability
> perspective and momentum with new features.

I agree with this assessment. It is currently very easy to backport almost
all new functionality from trunk (5x) to the 4x branch. Although there are
some features unique to trunk, I don't think the list is extensive yet.

I thought that the switch to Java 7 in trunk would force a relatively
short time line to 5.0, but the Java 7 requirement itself was backported
to 4x, so that influence is no longer there.

> I'll offer a prediction: 5.0 will happen when the Lucene guys at
> Elasticsearch come up with some great new ideas for how to leapfrog Solr!
> (And then we watch how the Heliosearch guys respond to that!)

I still think that a serious push for 5.0 will not begin until backporting
code changes from trunk to 4x requires signing manual intervention


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Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Posted by Jack Krupansky <ja...@basetechnology.com>.
The 4.x branch seems to be doing well enough, both from a stability 
perspective and momentum with new features.

Yeah, a year ago I would have expected a 5.0 around now, but... sometimes 
reality happens.

I'll offer a prediction: 5.0 will happen when the Lucene guys at 
Elasticsearch come up with some great new ideas for how to leapfrog Solr! 
(And then we watch how the Heliosearch guys respond to that!)

-- Jack Krupansky

-----Original Message----- 
From: Lajos
Sent: Wednesday, June 4, 2014 3:44 PM
To: dev@lucene.apache.org
Subject: Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Hi all,

Just coming back to this question of mine from the fall ... Given that
the pace of things has accelerated quite a bit (and quite nicely)
lately, does anyone have concrete plans for a 5.0 release yet? Would we
be talking summer's end or (hopefully) earlier?

Cheers,

L



On 02/10/2013 16:56, Shawn Heisey wrote:
> On 10/2/2013 4:34 AM, lajos@protulae.com wrote:
>> Your pending 4.5 release reminds me I wanted to ask - what is
>> the expected timeframe for 5.0? Are we talking end of year? Q1 2014? 
>> Later?
>>
>> I’m not asking for any commitment or firm date - I would just appreciate
>> an indication of what y’all are thinking of right now.
>
> Here's the tail end of a message that I just sent to solr-user:
>
> A 4.6.0 release will probably happen before the end of the year, but I
> can't guarantee that.
>
> The release schedule for 5.0 is *completely* undecided.  It might be a
> few months from now, it might be a year from now.  Some of the things
> that have been tentatively planned for that release are nowhere near
> finished.
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
>
>
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Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Posted by Lajos <la...@protulae.com>.
Hi all,

Just coming back to this question of mine from the fall ... Given that 
the pace of things has accelerated quite a bit (and quite nicely) 
lately, does anyone have concrete plans for a 5.0 release yet? Would we 
be talking summer's end or (hopefully) earlier?

Cheers,

L



On 02/10/2013 16:56, Shawn Heisey wrote:
> On 10/2/2013 4:34 AM, lajos@protulae.com wrote:
>> Your pending 4.5 release reminds me I wanted to ask - what is
>> the expected timeframe for 5.0? Are we talking end of year? Q1 2014? Later?
>>
>> I’m not asking for any commitment or firm date - I would just appreciate
>> an indication of what y’all are thinking of right now.
>
> Here's the tail end of a message that I just sent to solr-user:
>
> A 4.6.0 release will probably happen before the end of the year, but I
> can't guarantee that.
>
> The release schedule for 5.0 is *completely* undecided.  It might be a
> few months from now, it might be a year from now.  Some of the things
> that have been tentatively planned for that release are nowhere near
> finished.
>
> Thanks,
> Shawn
>
>
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Re: Lucene/Solr 5?

Posted by Shawn Heisey <so...@elyograg.org>.
On 10/2/2013 4:34 AM, lajos@protulae.com wrote:
> Your pending 4.5 release reminds me I wanted to ask - what is
> the expected timeframe for 5.0? Are we talking end of year? Q1 2014? Later?
>  
> I’m not asking for any commitment or firm date - I would just appreciate
> an indication of what y’all are thinking of right now.

Here's the tail end of a message that I just sent to solr-user:

A 4.6.0 release will probably happen before the end of the year, but I
can't guarantee that.

The release schedule for 5.0 is *completely* undecided.  It might be a
few months from now, it might be a year from now.  Some of the things
that have been tentatively planned for that release are nowhere near
finished.

Thanks,
Shawn


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