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Posted to dev@cocoon.apache.org by Stefano Mazzocchi <st...@apache.org> on 2002/12/01 12:46:34 UTC

Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Steven Noels wrote:
> David Crossley wrote:
> 
>> Earlier in this thread i alerted the list to what i see
>> as a major flaw. I think that the answer is simple:
>> The initial PMC is formed from "all committers" - the
>> whole list at xml-cocoon2/who.xml no matter what their
>> status. They can take themselves off the PMC if they
>> wish. No distinction is the best way.
> 
> 
> To be really correct, I assume we need use the avail list:
> 
> bash-2.04$ cat /home/cvs/CVSROOT/avail | grep xml-cocoon2
> avail|
> 
> twl,stefano,balld,ricardo,rubys,ben,zvia,giacomo,gears,bmclaugh,
> bloritsch,rossb,jeremy,greenrd,dims,ssahuc,prussell,cziegeler,donaldp,
> mman,sylvain,vgritsenko,haul,morrijr,crossley,ovidiu,tcurdt,gianugo,
> froehlich,huber,dirkx,butlermh,nicolaken,ivelin,kpiroumian,shannon,
> proyal,stephan,coliver,crafterm,acoliver,stevenn,bdelacretaz
> 
>  |xml-cocoon,xml-cocoon2,xml-cocoon2-apps,xml-site,xml-commons
> 
> ... and invite all people explicitely. People who have lost interest in 
> Cocoon won't answer the invitation then.

I like this.

I also agree with David that 'active committer' is not exactly easy to 
define (also, that's right, from that standard I'm not that 'active' 
code-wise)

So, what about doing this:

  1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail list)

  2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their interest 
in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as they wish)

  3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and 
we'll include them in the proposal.

  [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need to 
be that strict]

NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to be 
part of a PMC.

What do you think?

-- 
Stefano Mazzocchi                               <st...@apache.org>
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Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by Sylvain Wallez <sy...@anyware-tech.com>.
Bernhard Huber wrote:

> +1 from me,
> i hope to get a clear understanding what is expected from being part 
> of PMC
> bye bernhard


Me too. +1 !

Sylvain

>> So, what about doing this:
>>
>>  1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail 
>> list)
>>
>>  2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their 
>> interest in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as 
>> they wish)
>>
>>  3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and 
>> we'll include them in the proposal.
>>
>>  [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need 
>> to be that strict]
>>
>> NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to 
>> be part of a PMC.
>>
>> What do you think?
>>
-- 
Sylvain Wallez                                  Anyware Technologies
http://www.apache.org/~sylvain           http://www.anyware-tech.com
{ XML, Java, Cocoon, OpenSource }*{ Training, Consulting, Projects }



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Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by Bernhard Huber <be...@a1.net>.
+1 from me,
i hope to get a clear understanding what is expected from being part of PMC
bye bernhard

> So, what about doing this:
> 
>  1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail list)
> 
>  2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their interest 
> in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as they wish)
> 
>  3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and we'll 
> include them in the proposal.
> 
>  [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need to 
> be that strict]
> 
> NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to be 
> part of a PMC.
> 
> What do you think?
> 


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Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by Gianugo Rabellino <gi...@apache.org>.
Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> So, what about doing this:
> 
>  1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail list)
> 
>  2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their interest 
> in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as they wish)
> 
>  3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and we'll 
> include them in the proposal.
> 
>  [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need to 
> be that strict]
> 
> NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to be 
> part of a PMC.
> 
> What do you think?


Makes a lot of sense, +1 from me!

Ciao,

-- 
Gianugo




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Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by tc...@dff.st.
Quoting Konstantin Piroumian <kp...@apache.org>:

> From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <st...@apache.org>
> ...
> >
> > So, what about doing this:
> >
> >   1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail
> list)
> >
> >   2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their interest
> > in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as they wish)
> >
> >   3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and
> > we'll include them in the proposal.
> >
> >   [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need to
> > be that strict]
> >
> > NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to be
> > part of a PMC.
> >
> > What do you think?
> 
> +1 I like this.

+1 sounds good
--
Torsten


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Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by Konstantin Piroumian <kp...@apache.org>.
From: "Stefano Mazzocchi" <st...@apache.org>
...
>
> So, what about doing this:
>
>   1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail list)
>
>   2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their interest
> in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as they wish)
>
>   3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and
> we'll include them in the proposal.
>
>   [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need to
> be that strict]
>
> NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to be
> part of a PMC.
>
> What do you think?

+1 I like this.

Making all active committers PMC members without asking themselves was not a
very good decision. I think that everyone would like to know what does it
mean to be member of a PMC before becoming one.

Regards,
  Konstantin Piroumian

>
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> Stefano Mazzocchi                               <st...@apache.org>
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RE: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by Carsten Ziegeler <cz...@s-und-n.de>.
+1

Carsten

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Stefano Mazzocchi [mailto:stefano@apache.org]
> Sent: Sunday, December 01, 2002 12:47 PM
> To: cocoon-dev@xml.apache.org
> Subject: Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1
>
>
> Steven Noels wrote:
> > David Crossley wrote:
> >
> >> Earlier in this thread i alerted the list to what i see
> >> as a major flaw. I think that the answer is simple:
> >> The initial PMC is formed from "all committers" - the
> >> whole list at xml-cocoon2/who.xml no matter what their
> >> status. They can take themselves off the PMC if they
> >> wish. No distinction is the best way.
> >
> >
> > To be really correct, I assume we need use the avail list:
> >
> > bash-2.04$ cat /home/cvs/CVSROOT/avail | grep xml-cocoon2
> > avail|
> >
> > twl,stefano,balld,ricardo,rubys,ben,zvia,giacomo,gears,bmclaugh,
> > bloritsch,rossb,jeremy,greenrd,dims,ssahuc,prussell,cziegeler,donaldp,
> > mman,sylvain,vgritsenko,haul,morrijr,crossley,ovidiu,tcurdt,gianugo,
> > froehlich,huber,dirkx,butlermh,nicolaken,ivelin,kpiroumian,shannon,
> > proyal,stephan,coliver,crafterm,acoliver,stevenn,bdelacretaz
> >
> >  |xml-cocoon,xml-cocoon2,xml-cocoon2-apps,xml-site,xml-commons
> >
> > ... and invite all people explicitely. People who have lost interest in
> > Cocoon won't answer the invitation then.
>
> I like this.
>
> I also agree with David that 'active committer' is not exactly easy to
> define (also, that's right, from that standard I'm not that 'active'
> code-wise)
>
> So, what about doing this:
>
>   1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail list)
>
>   2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their interest
> in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as they wish)
>
>   3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and
> we'll include them in the proposal.
>
>   [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need to
> be that strict]
>
> NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to be
> part of a PMC.
>
> What do you think?
>
> --
> Stefano Mazzocchi                               <st...@apache.org>
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>
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Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by Jeremy Quinn <je...@media.demon.co.uk>.
On Sunday, Dec 1, 2002, at 11:46 Europe/London, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> So, what about doing this:
>
>  1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail 
> list)
>
>  2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their 
> interest in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as 
> they wish)
>
>  3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and 
> we'll include them in the proposal.
>

I +1 this suggestion, primarily because I think many of us would like 
more information about what we are potentially letting ourselves in for.

I also ask if is appropriate for any 'high-profile, non-committer 
*users*' to have representation on the board as well as developers?


regards Jeremy


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Re: [proposal] board resolution version 1.1

Posted by Giacomo Pati <gi...@apache.org>.
On Sun, 1 Dec 2002, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

> > ... and invite all people explicitely. People who have lost interest in
> > Cocoon won't answer the invitation then.
>
> I like this.
>
> I also agree with David that 'active committer' is not exactly easy to
> define (also, that's right, from that standard I'm not that 'active'
> code-wise)
>
> So, what about doing this:
>
>   1) I write email to everyone listed there (and will copy this mail list)
>
>   2) they have 72 hours to reply to that email indicating their interest
> in partecipating (replying privately to me or publicly as they wish)
>
>   3) at the end, I'll post here the list of people that replied and
> we'll include them in the proposal.
>
>   [if they take longer to reply, we'll add them anyway, we don't need to
> be that strict]
>
> NOTE: the message will contain a description of what does it mean to be
> part of a PMC.
>
> What do you think?

+1

Giacomo


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