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Click Incubation - Status
Hi,
this is the current status for the Click incubation:
- ICLAs for Malcolm, Bob and Naoki have been received. ICLA for Ahmed is
still missing. As soon as this shows up, I will request accounts for
Click
- Mentors need to prepare a status page for the click incubation, as
described at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Initialize
+Podling+Status+Page
- Infra Tickets have been opened at INFRA-1689 and sub-tickets. If you
want to be added as a moderator for the click mailing lists, please add
yourself to the INFRA-1690 ticket
Ciao
Henning
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Correct me if I am wrong, but what you are saying is that there should
be a record somewhere (such as a Click prior email archive?) where a
person states his intent to donate the code? What if this person was a
committer, and stated his intent by quietly committing the code?
> In any case, "rewriting this code" does not have any impact on
> copyright.
> Nobody can change the copyright on a work by copying it, even when the
> copy is from distant memory (think music for comparisons).
I guess there are different theories about that. I am not ready to
argue in depth about that. But when I wrote a few Cayenne DB adapters
that had been written by other people before, I am pretty sure I
didn't steal anyone's original work.
Andrus
On Jul 28, 2008, at 1:26 AM, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>> Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an
>> ICLA or rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP
>> clearance process.
>
> That isn't quite true. The ASF requires documentation that the
> original
> author has licensed the code to the ASF or to someone who can license
> it to the ASF. If, for example, the code was published by that author
> under the Apache License, BSD license, or any similar non-copyleft
> open source license, then the ASF can redistribute that code. We may
> need to retain some original license headers, but we do not need
> everyone
> who isn't going to participate to sign an ICLA. Likewise, an email
> message sent from the author saying that we can redistribute their
> code
> under the Apache License is a legitimate form of license -- just save
> the message in its original (raw) form.
>
> In any case, "rewriting this code" does not have any impact on
> copyright.
> Nobody can change the copyright on a work by copying it, even when the
> copy is from distant memory (think music for comparisons).
>
>> The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA, regardless of
>> his future participation plans, but that's of course up to him to
>> decide.
>
> Yes, that is the most sensible thing. He can send it via email if
> that helps. Because the iCLA is not a copyright assignment (just
> a non-exclusive license), we can rely on any written communication
> that can be reasonably determined to be from the author.
>
> ....Roy
>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <he...@schmiedehausen.org>.
Thanks for pointing this out; in case of Click, this probably means that
all current contribution, which are already covered by Apache licenses
are fine. So, while it is nice to track down the original authors and
get ICLAs from them to explicitly assign the code to the ASF, it is
actually not really requiredM a a copyright notice in the accompanying
files would be sufficient.
Ciao
Henning
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 22:26 -0700, Roy T. Fielding wrote:
> On Jul 27, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> > Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an
> > ICLA or rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP
> > clearance process.
>
> That isn't quite true. The ASF requires documentation that the original
> author has licensed the code to the ASF or to someone who can license
> it to the ASF. If, for example, the code was published by that author
> under the Apache License, BSD license, or any similar non-copyleft
> open source license, then the ASF can redistribute that code. We may
> need to retain some original license headers, but we do not need
> everyone
> who isn't going to participate to sign an ICLA. Likewise, an email
> message sent from the author saying that we can redistribute their code
> under the Apache License is a legitimate form of license -- just save
> the message in its original (raw) form.
>
> In any case, "rewriting this code" does not have any impact on
> copyright.
> Nobody can change the copyright on a work by copying it, even when the
> copy is from distant memory (think music for comparisons).
>
> > The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA, regardless of
> > his future participation plans, but that's of course up to him to
> > decide.
>
> Yes, that is the most sensible thing. He can send it via email if
> that helps. Because the iCLA is not a copyright assignment (just
> a non-exclusive license), we can rely on any written communication
> that can be reasonably determined to be from the author.
>
> ....Roy
>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Jul 27, 2008, at 9:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an
> ICLA or rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP
> clearance process.
That isn't quite true. The ASF requires documentation that the original
author has licensed the code to the ASF or to someone who can license
it to the ASF. If, for example, the code was published by that author
under the Apache License, BSD license, or any similar non-copyleft
open source license, then the ASF can redistribute that code. We may
need to retain some original license headers, but we do not need
everyone
who isn't going to participate to sign an ICLA. Likewise, an email
message sent from the author saying that we can redistribute their code
under the Apache License is a legitimate form of license -- just save
the message in its original (raw) form.
In any case, "rewriting this code" does not have any impact on
copyright.
Nobody can change the copyright on a work by copying it, even when the
copy is from distant memory (think music for comparisons).
> The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA, regardless of
> his future participation plans, but that's of course up to him to
> decide.
Yes, that is the most sensible thing. He can send it via email if
that helps. Because the iCLA is not a copyright assignment (just
a non-exclusive license), we can rely on any written communication
that can be reasonably determined to be from the author.
....Roy
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Martijn Dashorst <ma...@gmail.com>.
On Wed, Jul 30, 2008 at 4:42 PM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>> My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other
>> contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under
>> AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite
>> code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows
>> relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ), so the code in the repository is fine.
>
> The policy may have changed, but the above was NOT true when Cayenne was
> incubating. What I suspect is happening is that there is no *policy* as
> such, and instead we have a range of opinions.
It starts to sound like that.
> What you (and Roy) are saying makes sense to me, but it goes against
> everything I know about the practiced IP clearance process at Apache.
In my experience this is the same. Wicket had to track down ICLA's for
all committers on the project. Fortunately we didn't have that many
core folk, so this was rather easy.
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
OK thanks for that feedback. These contributions were not
specifically assigned to me by the comitters, so I think there
copyright status is disputable. I dont think we need to consider this
aspect further, and should just proceed as normal.
regards Malcolm Edgar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 10:14 AM, Roy T. Fielding <fi...@gbiv.com> wrote:
> On Jul 30, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
>
>> One possible complication to this is that all the code in Click
>> currently has a copyright header assigned to Malcolm Edgar, even if
>> they were contributed from other comitters. So in committing code
>> people have explicity assigned their copyright to me. This was a
>> habit I picked up from working on Tapestry.
>
> If you have signed documents from each author saying that they
> have irrevocably assigned copyright to you, then you have copyright
> ownership of the work and there is no need to bother anyone else.
>
> However, I think that is unlikely, given the discussion so far.
> Just placing a notice on top of the work doesn't give you copyright,
> not does committing to a file that has such a notice constitute
> assigning copyright. Contributions to an Apache Licensed work are
> understood to be covered by the license itself (when no CLA is given),
> which defines a nonexclusive license and not copyright assignment.
>
>> However I don't know whether this copright statement would has legal
>> standing, or is in the spirity of Apache.
>
> If it has legal standing, then Apache has no choice but to accept it.
> Assignment, though, has very specific legal requirements. The spirit
> of Apache still requires that all the current committers on the project
> sign an iCLA, since that establishes a common agreement on their
> future contributions to any ASF project.
>
> ....Roy
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by "Roy T. Fielding" <fi...@gbiv.com>.
On Jul 30, 2008, at 4:15 PM, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
> One possible complication to this is that all the code in Click
> currently has a copyright header assigned to Malcolm Edgar, even if
> they were contributed from other comitters. So in committing code
> people have explicity assigned their copyright to me. This was a
> habit I picked up from working on Tapestry.
If you have signed documents from each author saying that they
have irrevocably assigned copyright to you, then you have copyright
ownership of the work and there is no need to bother anyone else.
However, I think that is unlikely, given the discussion so far.
Just placing a notice on top of the work doesn't give you copyright,
not does committing to a file that has such a notice constitute
assigning copyright. Contributions to an Apache Licensed work are
understood to be covered by the license itself (when no CLA is given),
which defines a nonexclusive license and not copyright assignment.
> However I don't know whether this copright statement would has legal
> standing, or is in the spirity of Apache.
If it has legal standing, then Apache has no choice but to accept it.
Assignment, though, has very specific legal requirements. The spirit
of Apache still requires that all the current committers on the project
sign an iCLA, since that establishes a common agreement on their
future contributions to any ASF project.
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
One possible complication to this is that all the code in Click
currently has a copyright header assigned to Malcolm Edgar, even if
they were contributed from other comitters. So in committing code
people have explicity assigned their copyright to me. This was a
habit I picked up from working on Tapestry.
However I don't know whether this copright statement would has legal
standing, or is in the spirity of Apache.
regards Malcolm Edgar
On Thu, Jul 31, 2008 at 1:07 AM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
>> Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all, that
>> is where the lawyers lurk.
>
> Good idea.
>
> Also keep in mind that the problem scope is not limited to the projects
> coming to the incubator. It also affects contributions to the existing
> projects by new people. Currently anything beyond a trivial patch (submitted
> via Jira with "include in ASF product" radio button), requires an ICLA. We
> specifically tell people to sign an ICLA. With Roy's interpretation, we
> should be telling them "post this code on the web somewhere, adding a BSD
> license header, and we'll use it".
>
> Andrus
>
>
>
> On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>
>> I feel your pain and I know that Cayenne was in a bad spot because of
>> this. But if we can ease the process for others, why not?
>>
>> Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all, that
>> is where the lawyers lurk.
>>
>> Ciao
>> Henning
>>
>>
>> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:42 -0400, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>>>
>>> On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>>>
>>>> My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other
>>>> contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under
>>>> AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite
>>>> code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows
>>>> relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ), so the code in the repository is fine.
>>>
>>> The policy may have changed, but the above was NOT true when Cayenne
>>> was incubating. What I suspect is happening is that there is no
>>> *policy* as such, and instead we have a range of opinions.
>>>
>>> What you (and Roy) are saying makes sense to me, but it goes against
>>> everything I know about the practiced IP clearance process at Apache.
>>>
>>> Andrus
>>>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
> Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all,
> that
> is where the lawyers lurk.
Good idea.
Also keep in mind that the problem scope is not limited to the
projects coming to the incubator. It also affects contributions to the
existing projects by new people. Currently anything beyond a trivial
patch (submitted via Jira with "include in ASF product" radio button),
requires an ICLA. We specifically tell people to sign an ICLA. With
Roy's interpretation, we should be telling them "post this code on the
web somewhere, adding a BSD license header, and we'll use it".
Andrus
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:46 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> I feel your pain and I know that Cayenne was in a bad spot because of
> this. But if we can ease the process for others, why not?
>
> Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all,
> that
> is where the lawyers lurk.
>
> Ciao
> Henning
>
>
> On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:42 -0400, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
>> On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>>
>>> My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other
>>> contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already
>>> under
>>> AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or
>>> rewrite
>>> code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows
>>> relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ), so the code in the repository is
>>> fine.
>>
>> The policy may have changed, but the above was NOT true when Cayenne
>> was incubating. What I suspect is happening is that there is no
>> *policy* as such, and instead we have a range of opinions.
>>
>> What you (and Roy) are saying makes sense to me, but it goes against
>> everything I know about the practiced IP clearance process at Apache.
>>
>> Andrus
>>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <hp...@intermeta.de>.
I feel your pain and I know that Cayenne was in a bad spot because of
this. But if we can ease the process for others, why not?
Let's take this to legal-discuss and see what comes out. After all, that
is where the lawyers lurk.
Ciao
Henning
On Wed, 2008-07-30 at 10:42 -0400, Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
>
> > My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other
> > contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under
> > AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite
> > code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows
> > relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ), so the code in the repository is fine.
>
> The policy may have changed, but the above was NOT true when Cayenne
> was incubating. What I suspect is happening is that there is no
> *policy* as such, and instead we have a range of opinions.
>
> What you (and Roy) are saying makes sense to me, but it goes against
> everything I know about the practiced IP clearance process at Apache.
>
> Andrus
>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
On Jul 30, 2008, at 10:32 AM, Henning Schmiedehausen wrote:
> My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other
> contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under
> AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite
> code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows
> relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ), so the code in the repository is fine.
The policy may have changed, but the above was NOT true when Cayenne
was incubating. What I suspect is happening is that there is no
*policy* as such, and instead we have a range of opinions.
What you (and Roy) are saying makes sense to me, but it goes against
everything I know about the practiced IP clearance process at Apache.
Andrus
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <he...@apache.org>.
My personal understanding here is, that Ahmed (and any other
contributor) contributed that code to a project that is already under
AL2. So there is no need to track down the contributors and/or rewrite
code where the contributor can not be tracked down. The AL allows
relicensing under AL2 ( :-) ), so the code in the repository is fine.
The one thing that you *must* retain are the copyrights. So it might be
necessary to add to the NOTICE files some lines like
"This project contains code written by <contributor> and licensed under
Apache License 2. This code is (C) Copyright <year of code>
<contributor name>
The situation is much worse for e.g. JSPWiki, because they *CHANGE*
license from (L)GPL to AL2. So they have to track down all the copyright
holders and ask them to relicense. And if they don't, they have to throw
out and rewrite the code.
An existing codebase under AL2 does not need this.
All IMHO. IANAL. I don't even play one on TV.
Ciao
Henning
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 19:11 +0200, bob wrote:
> Hi Andrus,
>
> Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> > Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed?
>
> Yes. His contribution history can be seen here:
> http://fisheye3.atlassian.com/changelog/~author=amohombe/click/
>
> However much of that code is in a his sandbox which is not part of
> Click distribution and can be left out.
>
> As getting an ICLA or
> > rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP clearance
> > process. The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA,
> > regardless of his future participation plans, but that's of course up to
> > him to decide.
>
>
> Agreed. However if Ahmed does not submit an ICLA and we have to
> rewrite his contributions how do we go about it? I can understand
> rewriting classes, but what about small patches of 3-5 lines?
>
> Kind regards
>
> Bob
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by bob <sa...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrus,
Andrus Adamchik wrote:
> Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed?
Yes. His contribution history can be seen here:
http://fisheye3.atlassian.com/changelog/~author=amohombe/click/
However much of that code is in a his sandbox which is not part of
Click distribution and can be left out.
As getting an ICLA or
> rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP clearance
> process. The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA,
> regardless of his future participation plans, but that's of course up to
> him to decide.
Agreed. However if Ahmed does not submit an ICLA and we have to
rewrite his contributions how do we go about it? I can understand
rewriting classes, but what about small patches of 3-5 lines?
Kind regards
Bob
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi Andrus,
There are a number of Click Extras controls written by Ahmed, but
nothing in the core. These controls will probably have to be moved
into a separate non Apache project.
regards Malcolm Edgar
On Mon, Jul 28, 2008 at 2:22 AM, Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org> wrote:
> Hi Malcolm,
>
> Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an ICLA or
> rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP clearance process.
> The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA, regardless of his
> future participation plans, but that's of course up to him to decide.
>
> Thanks,
> Andrus
>
> On Jul 27, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the update on the ICLA's.
>>
>> Ahmed unfortunately wont be able to join the project initially for
>> personal health reasons and won't be providing an ICLA.
>>
>> You should have also received an ICLA from Phil Barne an early
>> committer to the Click project.
>>
>> I will still try and obtain ICLA's from previous contributors.
>>
>> regards Malcolm Edgar
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
>> <he...@apache.org> wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> this is the current status for the Click incubation:
>>>
>>> - ICLAs for Malcolm, Bob and Naoki have been received. ICLA for Ahmed is
>>> still missing. As soon as this shows up, I will request accounts for
>>> Click
>>>
>>> - Mentors need to prepare a status page for the click incubation, as
>>> described at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Initialize
>>> +Podling+Status+Page
>>>
>>> - Infra Tickets have been opened at INFRA-1689 and sub-tickets. If you
>>> want to be added as a moderator for the click mailing lists, please add
>>> yourself to the INFRA-1690 ticket
>>>
>>> Ciao
>>> Henning
>>>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Andrus Adamchik <an...@objectstyle.org>.
Hi Malcolm,
Is there existing code in Click written by Ahmed? As getting an ICLA
or rewriting this code will be required as a part of the IP clearance
process. The ideal outcome would be for Ahmed to send an ICLA,
regardless of his future participation plans, but that's of course up
to him to decide.
Thanks,
Andrus
On Jul 27, 2008, at 8:56 AM, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the update on the ICLA's.
>
> Ahmed unfortunately wont be able to join the project initially for
> personal health reasons and won't be providing an ICLA.
>
> You should have also received an ICLA from Phil Barne an early
> committer to the Click project.
>
> I will still try and obtain ICLA's from previous contributors.
>
> regards Malcolm Edgar
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
> <he...@apache.org> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> this is the current status for the Click incubation:
>>
>> - ICLAs for Malcolm, Bob and Naoki have been received. ICLA for
>> Ahmed is
>> still missing. As soon as this shows up, I will request accounts for
>> Click
>>
>> - Mentors need to prepare a status page for the click incubation, as
>> described at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/
>> mentor.html#Initialize
>> +Podling+Status+Page
>>
>> - Infra Tickets have been opened at INFRA-1689 and sub-tickets. If
>> you
>> want to be added as a moderator for the click mailing lists, please
>> add
>> yourself to the INFRA-1690 ticket
>>
>> Ciao
>> Henning
>>
>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
Phil's ICLA is just for the IP vetting.
regards Malcolm Edgar
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 11:26 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
<he...@apache.org> wrote:
> Ok, thanks for updating, we will continue without Ahmed initially,
> hopefully he can join the project soon.
>
> Will Phil become a committer (he was not in the initial set, so there
> might be a vote required) or is that ICLA just for the IP vetting?
>
> Ciao
> Henning
>
>
> On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 22:56 +1000, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Thanks for the update on the ICLA's.
>>
>> Ahmed unfortunately wont be able to join the project initially for
>> personal health reasons and won't be providing an ICLA.
>>
>> You should have also received an ICLA from Phil Barne an early
>> committer to the Click project.
>>
>> I will still try and obtain ICLA's from previous contributors.
>>
>> regards Malcolm Edgar
>>
>> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
>> <he...@apache.org> wrote:
>> > Hi,
>> >
>> > this is the current status for the Click incubation:
>> >
>> > - ICLAs for Malcolm, Bob and Naoki have been received. ICLA for Ahmed is
>> > still missing. As soon as this shows up, I will request accounts for
>> > Click
>> >
>> > - Mentors need to prepare a status page for the click incubation, as
>> > described at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Initialize
>> > +Podling+Status+Page
>> >
>> > - Infra Tickets have been opened at INFRA-1689 and sub-tickets. If you
>> > want to be added as a moderator for the click mailing lists, please add
>> > yourself to the INFRA-1690 ticket
>> >
>> > Ciao
>> > Henning
>> >
>>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Henning Schmiedehausen <he...@apache.org>.
Ok, thanks for updating, we will continue without Ahmed initially,
hopefully he can join the project soon.
Will Phil become a committer (he was not in the initial set, so there
might be a vote required) or is that ICLA just for the IP vetting?
Ciao
Henning
On Sun, 2008-07-27 at 22:56 +1000, Malcolm Edgar wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Thanks for the update on the ICLA's.
>
> Ahmed unfortunately wont be able to join the project initially for
> personal health reasons and won't be providing an ICLA.
>
> You should have also received an ICLA from Phil Barne an early
> committer to the Click project.
>
> I will still try and obtain ICLA's from previous contributors.
>
> regards Malcolm Edgar
>
> On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
> <he...@apache.org> wrote:
> > Hi,
> >
> > this is the current status for the Click incubation:
> >
> > - ICLAs for Malcolm, Bob and Naoki have been received. ICLA for Ahmed is
> > still missing. As soon as this shows up, I will request accounts for
> > Click
> >
> > - Mentors need to prepare a status page for the click incubation, as
> > described at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Initialize
> > +Podling+Status+Page
> >
> > - Infra Tickets have been opened at INFRA-1689 and sub-tickets. If you
> > want to be added as a moderator for the click mailing lists, please add
> > yourself to the INFRA-1690 ticket
> >
> > Ciao
> > Henning
> >
>
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Re: Click Incubation - Status
Posted by Malcolm Edgar <ma...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Thanks for the update on the ICLA's.
Ahmed unfortunately wont be able to join the project initially for
personal health reasons and won't be providing an ICLA.
You should have also received an ICLA from Phil Barne an early
committer to the Click project.
I will still try and obtain ICLA's from previous contributors.
regards Malcolm Edgar
On Sun, Jul 27, 2008 at 9:25 PM, Henning Schmiedehausen
<he...@apache.org> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> this is the current status for the Click incubation:
>
> - ICLAs for Malcolm, Bob and Naoki have been received. ICLA for Ahmed is
> still missing. As soon as this shows up, I will request accounts for
> Click
>
> - Mentors need to prepare a status page for the click incubation, as
> described at http://incubator.apache.org/guides/mentor.html#Initialize
> +Podling+Status+Page
>
> - Infra Tickets have been opened at INFRA-1689 and sub-tickets. If you
> want to be added as a moderator for the click mailing lists, please add
> yourself to the INFRA-1690 ticket
>
> Ciao
> Henning
>
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