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Posted to dev@community.apache.org by Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com> on 2015/01/13 00:02:29 UTC
ApacheCon papers?
I noticed that the ApacheCon site seems to have downloads of slide decks.
I have a friend that did "A year without Powerpoint(tm)". That is, he
provided more detail in the takeaway documents. I find that the slides
from a slide show are worthless after a couple of hours, that I don't
recall the detail I need. However, a document that contains the basic
synopsis of the idea, the work done to prove/disporve viability, contact
info and URIs is much valuable.
Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload site
in additon to the slide deck?
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Re: ApacheCon papers?
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 01/13/2015 04:44 AM, Rob Vesse wrote:
> Claude
>
> It is worth noting that ApacheCon talks are audio recorded (and some video
> recorded) and they eventually make their way up onto YouTube as and when
> the volunteers involved have time to process all the recordings
>
> https://www.youtube.com/user/TheApacheFoundation?spfreload=10
Unfortunately *not* the case for Budapest. :( This would be a wonderful
place for a sponsor to step up for Austin, but in Budapest we simply
didn't have the budget for it.
--Rich
>
> Rob
>
> On 13/01/2015 08:32, "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)"
> <Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>
>> It's hard enough to get speakers to deliver slides. Honestly, getting
>> much more is unlikely.
>>
>> That being said. If you want to take ownership we'd love for someone to
>> get more out of our speakers. Even coordinating the slide collection
>> would be helpful.
>>
>> Sent from my Windows Phone
>> ________________________________
>> From: Claude Warren<ma...@xenei.com>
>> Sent: 1/12/2015 11:11 PM
>> To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>> Subject: Re: ApacheCon papers?
>>
>> I was thinking along the lines of the Semantic Web Conference and other
>> technical conferences that produce a "Proceedings" journal (without
>> ApacheCon having to go through the expense), where they publish the papers
>> after the conference as a journal, ApacheCon could publish the papers
>> online. it would be more work for the speakers who wish to participate
>> but would probably lead to wider dissemination of their ideas and
>> findings.
>>
>> On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Kinda like a book, right?
>>>
>>> Hadrian
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 01/12/2015 06:02 PM, Claude Warren wrote:
>>>
>>>> I noticed that the ApacheCon site seems to have downloads of slide
>>>> decks.
>>>>
>>>> I have a friend that did "A year without Powerpoint(tm)". That is, he
>>>> provided more detail in the takeaway documents. I find that the slides
>>>> from a slide show are worthless after a couple of hours, that I don't
>>>> recall the detail I need. However, a document that contains the basic
>>>> synopsis of the idea, the work done to prove/disporve viability,
>>>> contact
>>>> info and URIs is much valuable.
>>>>
>>>> Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload
>>>> site
>>>> in additon to the slide deck?
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>
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Re: ApacheCon papers?
Posted by Rob Vesse <rv...@dotnetrdf.org>.
Claude
It is worth noting that ApacheCon talks are audio recorded (and some video
recorded) and they eventually make their way up onto YouTube as and when
the volunteers involved have time to process all the recordings
https://www.youtube.com/user/TheApacheFoundation?spfreload=10
Rob
On 13/01/2015 08:32, "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)"
<Ro...@microsoft.com> wrote:
>It's hard enough to get speakers to deliver slides. Honestly, getting
>much more is unlikely.
>
>That being said. If you want to take ownership we'd love for someone to
>get more out of our speakers. Even coordinating the slide collection
>would be helpful.
>
>Sent from my Windows Phone
>________________________________
>From: Claude Warren<ma...@xenei.com>
>Sent: 1/12/2015 11:11 PM
>To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
>Subject: Re: ApacheCon papers?
>
>I was thinking along the lines of the Semantic Web Conference and other
>technical conferences that produce a "Proceedings" journal (without
>ApacheCon having to go through the expense), where they publish the papers
>after the conference as a journal, ApacheCon could publish the papers
>online. it would be more work for the speakers who wish to participate
>but would probably lead to wider dissemination of their ideas and
>findings.
>
>On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
>wrote:
>
>> Kinda like a book, right?
>>
>> Hadrian
>>
>>
>>
>> On 01/12/2015 06:02 PM, Claude Warren wrote:
>>
>>> I noticed that the ApacheCon site seems to have downloads of slide
>>>decks.
>>>
>>> I have a friend that did "A year without Powerpoint(tm)". That is, he
>>> provided more detail in the takeaway documents. I find that the slides
>>> from a slide show are worthless after a couple of hours, that I don't
>>> recall the detail I need. However, a document that contains the basic
>>> synopsis of the idea, the work done to prove/disporve viability,
>>>contact
>>> info and URIs is much valuable.
>>>
>>> Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload
>>> site
>>> in additon to the slide deck?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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RE: ApacheCon papers?
Posted by "Ross Gardler (MS OPEN TECH)" <Ro...@microsoft.com>.
It's hard enough to get speakers to deliver slides. Honestly, getting much more is unlikely.
That being said. If you want to take ownership we'd love for someone to get more out of our speakers. Even coordinating the slide collection would be helpful.
Sent from my Windows Phone
________________________________
From: Claude Warren<ma...@xenei.com>
Sent: 1/12/2015 11:11 PM
To: dev@community.apache.org<ma...@community.apache.org>
Subject: Re: ApacheCon papers?
I was thinking along the lines of the Semantic Web Conference and other
technical conferences that produce a "Proceedings" journal (without
ApacheCon having to go through the expense), where they publish the papers
after the conference as a journal, ApacheCon could publish the papers
online. it would be more work for the speakers who wish to participate
but would probably lead to wider dissemination of their ideas and findings.
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Kinda like a book, right?
>
> Hadrian
>
>
>
> On 01/12/2015 06:02 PM, Claude Warren wrote:
>
>> I noticed that the ApacheCon site seems to have downloads of slide decks.
>>
>> I have a friend that did "A year without Powerpoint(tm)". That is, he
>> provided more detail in the takeaway documents. I find that the slides
>> from a slide show are worthless after a couple of hours, that I don't
>> recall the detail I need. However, a document that contains the basic
>> synopsis of the idea, the work done to prove/disporve viability, contact
>> info and URIs is much valuable.
>>
>> Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload
>> site
>> in additon to the slide deck?
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: ApacheCon papers?
Posted by Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com>.
I was thinking along the lines of the Semantic Web Conference and other
technical conferences that produce a "Proceedings" journal (without
ApacheCon having to go through the expense), where they publish the papers
after the conference as a journal, ApacheCon could publish the papers
online. it would be more work for the speakers who wish to participate
but would probably lead to wider dissemination of their ideas and findings.
On Mon, Jan 12, 2015 at 11:58 PM, Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>
wrote:
> Kinda like a book, right?
>
> Hadrian
>
>
>
> On 01/12/2015 06:02 PM, Claude Warren wrote:
>
>> I noticed that the ApacheCon site seems to have downloads of slide decks.
>>
>> I have a friend that did "A year without Powerpoint(tm)". That is, he
>> provided more detail in the takeaway documents. I find that the slides
>> from a slide show are worthless after a couple of hours, that I don't
>> recall the detail I need. However, a document that contains the basic
>> synopsis of the idea, the work done to prove/disporve viability, contact
>> info and URIs is much valuable.
>>
>> Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload
>> site
>> in additon to the slide deck?
>>
>>
>>
>
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Re: ApacheCon papers?
Posted by Hadrian Zbarcea <hz...@gmail.com>.
Kinda like a book, right?
Hadrian
On 01/12/2015 06:02 PM, Claude Warren wrote:
> I noticed that the ApacheCon site seems to have downloads of slide decks.
>
> I have a friend that did "A year without Powerpoint(tm)". That is, he
> provided more detail in the takeaway documents. I find that the slides
> from a slide show are worthless after a couple of hours, that I don't
> recall the detail I need. However, a document that contains the basic
> synopsis of the idea, the work done to prove/disporve viability, contact
> info and URIs is much valuable.
>
> Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload site
> in additon to the slide deck?
>
>
Re: ApacheCon papers?
Posted by Rich Bowen <rb...@rcbowen.com>.
On 01/12/2015 06:02 PM, Claude Warren wrote:
> I noticed that the ApacheCon site seems to have downloads of slide decks.
>
> I have a friend that did "A year without Powerpoint(tm)". That is, he
> provided more detail in the takeaway documents. I find that the slides
> from a slide show are worthless after a couple of hours, that I don't
> recall the detail I need. However, a document that contains the basic
> synopsis of the idea, the work done to prove/disporve viability, contact
> info and URIs is much valuable.
>
> Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload site
> in additon to the slide deck?
>
>
That would, indeed, be awesome, if we could persuade even a small number
of the speakers to provide this kind of a writeup. I know that for
myself, my slides are cue cards - that is, they don't contain most of
the useful information, but are just bullets to remind me what I wanted
to say. So, yes, agreed, my slide decks are worthless without the talk
to go along with it.
I will attempt to do what you request, for Austin. But understand, as
Ross points out, that it's amazingly hard getting people just to upload
their slides. Having them write the kind of proceedings you're asking
for is a worthy undertaking, but I don't expect much success.
--
Rich Bowen - rbowen@rcbowen.com - @rbowen
http://apachecon.com/ - @apachecon
Re: ApacheCon papers?
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Tuesday, January 13, 2015, Claude Warren <cl...@xenei.com> wrote:
> ...Would ApacheCon place other speaker provided documents on the donwload
site
> in additon to the slide deck?...
That might happen but what I usually do is include in my slides links to
more detailed documents, blog posts, reading lists etc.
I agree that just slides is often not enough to get your message through.
That's why I tend to talk during my talks ;-)
-Bertrand