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Posted to modperl@perl.apache.org by "Thomas K. Burkholder" <bu...@dogrobber.com> on 2002/03/26 20:16:49 UTC
How to get two perl namespaces in apache
Hi there-
Apologies if this gets sent twice - I sent a message yesterday, but it
seems to have vanished into the ether.
I'd like to run the production server of my mod_perl project
(http://www.areaj.org/areaj) on the same machine as my development
server. Clearly they have the same module names so I have to somehow
run them in two different environments - I don't think running them on
two different virtual servers is going to do it, right? Doesn't apache
just start one perl "runtime"? Please tell me if I'm mistaken about
that.
So, I guess I'm wondering if there's an easy way to have two completely
separate apache configurations running on the same machine (listening on
different ports obviously).
Any help greatly appreciated.
Thanks,
//Thomas
Thomas K. Burkholder
Re: How to get two perl namespaces in apache
Posted by Garth Winter Webb <ga...@digicamp.com>.
You just need to fire up two separate apaches, each with their own
conf. So basically you have:
/usr/local/apache_prod
/usr/local/apache_dev
These can actually share the same bin and lib directories; everything is
still installed at '/usr/local/apache' and you symlink the directories
you want to have in common. You also need separate copies of apachectl
that fire up the httpd's so that they point at the right httpd.conf and
have the right server root.
Garth
On Tue, 2002-03-26 at 11:16, Thomas K. Burkholder wrote:
> Hi there-
>
> Apologies if this gets sent twice - I sent a message yesterday, but it
> seems to have vanished into the ether.
>
> I'd like to run the production server of my mod_perl project
> (http://www.areaj.org/areaj) on the same machine as my development
> server. Clearly they have the same module names so I have to somehow
> run them in two different environments - I don't think running them on
> two different virtual servers is going to do it, right? Doesn't apache
> just start one perl "runtime"? Please tell me if I'm mistaken about
> that.
>
> So, I guess I'm wondering if there's an easy way to have two completely
> separate apache configurations running on the same machine (listening on
> different ports obviously).
>
> Any help greatly appreciated.
>
> Thanks,
>
> //Thomas
> Thomas K. Burkholder
>
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Re: How to get two perl namespaces in apache
Posted by ___cliff rayman___ <cl...@genwax.com>.
"Thomas K. Burkholder" wrote:
> run them in two different environments - I don't think running them on
> two different virtual servers is going to do it, right? Doesn't apache
> just start one perl "runtime"? Please tell me if I'm mistaken about
there is only one interpreter, so running a module with the same name
on two different virtual servers is not going to work.
> So, I guess I'm wondering if there's an easy way to have two completely
> separate apache configurations running on the same machine (listening on
> different ports obviously).
sure. just leave the regular config file, then build something like:
httpd_dev.conf
change both the Listen and Port directives to an alternate port, and then
start with:
httpd -c httpd_dev.conf
i haven't tried this exact scenario myself, but it should work without a problem.
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Re: How to get two perl namespaces in apache
Posted by Perrin Harkins <pe...@elem.com>.
Ernest Lergon wrote:
> just throwing a glance I found:
>
> http://thingy.kcilink.com/modperlguide/modules/Apache_PerlVINC_Allows_Module.html
Not a good idea for production use. It will slow things down. Handy
for development with multiple projects using separate virtual hosts though.
- Perrin
Re: How to get two perl namespaces in apache
Posted by Ernest Lergon <er...@virtualitas.net>.
"Thomas K. Burkholder" wrote:
>
> So, I guess I'm wondering if there's an easy way to have two completely
> separate apache configurations running on the same machine (listening on
> different ports obviously).
>
Hi Thomas,
just throwing a glance I found:
http://thingy.kcilink.com/modperlguide/modules/Apache_PerlVINC_Allows_Module.html
Maybe someone here has experience with it.
More tips on
http://thingy.kcilink.com/modperlguide/porting/Name_collisions_with_Modules_and.html
and in this discussion:
http://www.mail-archive.com/modperl@apache.org/msg24564.html
Ernest
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Re: How to get two perl namespaces in apache
Posted by Drew Taylor <dr...@drewtaylor.com>.
Thomas,
You can run seperate environments if your coding doesn't reference any hard
coded paths. I just setup a dev server at my new job and do exactly what
you want. All you have to do is add a "use lib qw(/path/to/modules);" in
your startup.pl or make sure the PERL5LIB environment var is set. This can
be done w/ "PerlSetVar /your/path/here" or setting it for the user apache
is running as. HTH.
Drew
At 11:16 AM 3/26/02 -0800, Thomas K. Burkholder wrote:
>Hi there-
>
>Apologies if this gets sent twice - I sent a message yesterday, but it
>seems to have vanished into the ether.
>
>I'd like to run the production server of my mod_perl project
>(http://www.areaj.org/areaj) on the same machine as my development
>server. Clearly they have the same module names so I have to somehow run
>them in two different environments - I don't think running them on two
>different virtual servers is going to do it, right? Doesn't apache just
>start one perl "runtime"? Please tell me if I'm mistaken about that.