Re: [DISCUSS] Update on the Website transferation

[Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>]

Sorry, Dave. I forgot about that...
We will test it now.

Wenli


On Fri, Nov 1, 2019 at 6:59 AM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org> wrote:

> Hi Wenli,
>
> This may be the same VPN IP address I gave you a few weeks ago. Did you
> test that?
>
> Put this in your hosts file:
> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <http://echarts.apache.org/>
>
> Regards,
> Dave
>
> > On Oct 31, 2019, at 2:33 PM, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> > Thanks, York. That's really helpful news to learn.
> > Can you give more information about this experimental CDN and how we
> could
> > enable it?
> >
> > Wenli
> >
> >
> > On Wed, Oct 30, 2019 at 8:49 PM York Shen <ky...@apache.org> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi, there
> >>
> >> Just noticed you're bothering CDN problem from China. As a committer and
> >> PPMC member of Weex, I also suffered the problems months ago, but
> things go
> >> well after we enabl experimental CDN of Apache in China [1]. I hope this
> >> could also solve your problem.
> >>
> >> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18406
> >>
> >> Best Regards,
> >> York Shen
> >>
> >> 申远
> >>
> >> On 2019/10/18 07:04:13, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>> In fact, it's possible to know the speed of different countries.
> >>> 1. Open google analytics
> >>> 2. Behavior - Site speed - Page timings
> >>> 3. Set the secondary dimension to be Country
> >>>
> >>> I'm not sure if it's appropriate to copy the data to the dev mailing
> >> list,
> >>> so I will skip the screenshot. :)
> >>>
> >>> Wenli
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Fri, Oct 18, 2019 at 11:15 AM Yi Shen <sh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi,
> >>>>
> >>>> In my perspective, analytics can tell us traffic on each document
> page.
> >>>> Which makes it easier for us to discuss the breaking changes.
> >>>>
> >>>> Also, I think it's important to know the website speed in different
> >> regions
> >>>> and different networks. But it seems currently our analytics can't do
> >> this
> >>>> kind of thing.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks
> >>>>
> >>>> On Thu, Oct 17, 2019 at 12:01 PM Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Thanks Dave.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> I've shared the analytics accounts in private maillist on 13th June.
> >> [1]
> >>>>>> You should have received invitations emails from Google Analytics
> >> and
> >>>>> Baidu Tongji. Since Google Analytics supports only gmail for email,
> >> so
> >>>>> those who don't
> >>>>> have gmail in the following list [2], please tell me your gmail
> >> account
> >>>> so
> >>>>> that I can invite you to our Google Analytics account.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> If you need any help to access either of them, please let me know.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> And yes, we should discuss more about how can we use this data to
> >> help
> >>>> make
> >>>>> decisions in the following emails.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1]
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://lists.apache.org/thread.html/a75cac8aa0a979146800a3688eccc95740c2fb53050689fcd198dfae@%3Cprivate.echarts.apache.org%3E
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Wenli
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 10:34 PM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>
> >>>>>> Hi Wenli,
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> I understand that these are analytics JS and Graphics files. I
> >> would
> >>>> like
> >>>>>> to see the analytics data and how those analytics are used to make
> >>>>>> decisions. I’d like to see that discussion occur on this mailing
> >> list.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> The community deserves to understand how the project's resources
> >> are
> >>>>>> monitored.
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Oct 15, 2019, at 10:49 PM, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Hi Dave,
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Thanks for the information about AzureCDN. I will have a try.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> As about hm.js, this is the analytics file for Baidu Tongji,
> >> similar
> >>>> to
> >>>>>>> Google Analytics.
> >>>>>>> In previous discussions, we agreed to use both Baidu Tongji and
> >>>> Google
> >>>>>>> Analytics. In practice, we found that Baidu Tongji misses the
> >>>> analytics
> >>>>>> of
> >>>>>>> 15% of page views outside of China, while Google Analytics
> >> misses 50%
> >>>>> of
> >>>>>>> page views from China.
> >>>>>>> So I think it makes sense to use both Baidu Tongji and Google
> >>>>> Analytics.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> The hm.js is slow outside of China, just like analytics.js of
> >> Google
> >>>>>>> Analytics is slow (or sometimes inaccessible) in China. But
> >> neither
> >>>> of
> >>>>>>> these files should block the Web page rendering. So I think may
> >> not
> >>>> be
> >>>>> a
> >>>>>>> big issue.
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> Wenli
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>> On Wed, Oct 16, 2019 at 12:56 AM Dave Fisher <wa...@apache.org>
> >>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Hi -
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> No point in reopening the JIRA and no point in creating a new
> >> JIRA
> >>>> at
> >>>>>> this
> >>>>>>>> time.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> The slowness from the US side involves the hm.js and hm.gif
> >> which
> >>>> are
> >>>>>>>> hosted by Baidu. These are the user statistics from Baidu. I
> >> would
> >>>>> like
> >>>>>> to
> >>>>>>>> see a discussion about how these are used on the dev@ mailing
> >> list,
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> There is an AzureCDN that can be tried:
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Put the following in your /etc/hosts (or equivalent)
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> 13.107.246.10 echarts.apache.org <
> >>>>>>>>
> >> https://slack-redir.net/link?url=http%3A%2F%2Fecharts.apache.org>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Let us know if it works better. If it does then we can ask
> >> INFRA to
> >>>>>> switch
> >>>>>>>> CDNs.
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> Regards,
> >>>>>>>> Dave
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Oct 13, 2019, at 9:49 PM, Ovilia <ov...@gmail.com>
> >> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> The JIRA ticket hasn't been replied by the infra for a month,
> >>>>> probably
> >>>>>>>>> because it's been closed.
> >>>>>>>> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >>>>>>>>> Should I open a new one, because I cannot re-open it?
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> Wenli
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>> On Fri, Sep 6, 2019 at 7:52 AM Kevin A. McGrail <
> >>>> kmcgrail@apache.org
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Done.
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> On 9/5/2019 6:31 AM, Ovilia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>> Hi Kevin,
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Could you please copy your last email to the JIRA [1] and
> >>>> continue
> >>>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>> discussion there?
> >>>>>>>>>>> It's quite inconvenient to have the conversation both on
> >> JIRA and
> >>>>>> with
> >>>>>>>>>>> email.
> >>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, Sep 5, 2019 at 4:58 PM Kevin A. McGrail <
> >>>>> kmcgrail@apache.org
> >>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> On 9/4/2019 11:31 PM, Ovilia wrote:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks, Kevin.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> I've updated this information on JIRA [1].
> >>>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> As for the cost issue, we have a budget to cover it from
> >> Baidu
> >>>>> but
> >>>>>>>> need
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> further discussion on the details if we decide to take this
> >>>>>> approach.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> [1] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/INFRA-18919
> >>>>>>>>>>>>> Wenli
> >>>>>>>>>>>> So the goals I see are:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> A) get the site up on echarts.apache.org running on ASF
> >>>>>>>> Infrastructure
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is goal #1
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> B) see if we can make it faster with ASF InfraStructure and
> >> a
> >>>> CDN
> >>>>> to
> >>>>>>>>>>>> avoid step C but realizing that step C is likely
> >> necessary...
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> C) provide a Chinese mirror of the echarts website that
> >> makes
> >>>>> things
> >>>>>>>>>>>> more usable for people from China.  For me, I thought about
> >> all
> >>>>> our
> >>>>>>>>>>>> policies and Apache Way.  I believe done with these steps
> >> laid
> >>>>> out,
> >>>>>> it
> >>>>>>>>>>>> is fine and within the jurisdiction of the project to
> >> decide:
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - a 100% mirror of the ASF site, nothing different, that
> >> runs
> >>>> on a
> >>>>>>>>>>>> subdomain such as zh.echarts.apache.org and automatically
> >> is
> >>>>> synced
> >>>>>>>>>> from
> >>>>>>>>>>>> the echarts.apache.org server.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - A banner or something on echarts.apache.org/zh that
> >>>>>>>> recommends/links
> >>>>>>>>>>>> using zh.echarts.apache.org/zh for faster speed if they
> >> have
> >>>>>> issues.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Release downloads still link to ASF Infrastructure, e.g.,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> https://www.apache.org/dist/incubator/echarts/4.2.1/apache-echarts-4.2.1-incubating-src.zip.asc
> >>>>>>>>>>>> .
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Question: are downloads problematically slow or they are
> >> just a
> >>>>> few
> >>>>>>>>>>>> seconds slow and people don't complain about it because
> >> it's a
> >>>>>>>> download
> >>>>>>>>>>>> more than an interactive website?
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - Baidu donates the hostingso there are no financial
> >> impacts to
> >>>>> the
> >>>>>>>> ASF
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - If any recognition of the donation is given, we make sure
> >> to
> >>>>>> follow
> >>>>>>>>>>>> fundraising targeted sponsorship policy (see
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>
> >>>>>
> >> https://www.apache.org/foundation/docs/Targeted-Sponsorship-Policy.pdf)
> >>>>>>>>>>>> which basically means it has to be approved.
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> - And of course, the project PPMC votes to do this
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>> KAM
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>
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> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> --
> >>>>>>>>>> Kevin A. McGrail
> >>>>>>>>>> KMcGrail@Apache.org
> >>>>>>>>>>
> >>>>>>>>>> Member, Apache Software Foundation
> >>>>>>>>>> Chair Emeritus Apache SpamAssassin Project
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> >>>>>>>>>>
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> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> --
> >>>> Yi Shen
> >>>> Apache ECharts(incubating) PPMC
> >>>>
> >>>
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