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Posted to dev@netbeans.apache.org by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net> on 2017/06/22 12:19:39 UTC
NetBeans & JIRA
Hey,
so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for NetBeans tickets, right?
1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA from now on?
2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc. to JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and a initial description.
Regards
Chris
Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Neil C Smith <ne...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 5:07 PM Geertjan Wielenga <
geertjan.wielenga@googlemail.com> wrote:
> I.e., we're not going to move the entire NetBeans Bugzilla to JIRA. A lot
> of the issues are not relevant anymore
>
Is there a plan to keep an archive of the existing bugs though? I ask
because there are quite a few references to bugzilla issues in the NB
source code, and presumably a lot more in the commit history. Attached is
a quick grep against NB8.2 source for "netbeans.org/bugzilla/show_bug" and
"fix for #" for example.
Best wishes,
Neil
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Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Junichi Yamamoto <ju...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
> For us as developers closed issues are as important as version control
> history, because 99% of our commits mention Bug number which is used as the
> source to discussion, problem description, examples and cross-references.
I also think so. I hope that all existing issue numbers are kept in
the new issue tracker.
Thanks,
Junichi
Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Bertrand Delacretaz <bd...@apache.org>.
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 6:22 PM, Geertjan Wielenga >
> ...in principle there's nothing stopping us from migrating everything...
A middle ground is be to export the current bugzilla tickets as static
HTML and serve that from netbeans.apache.org, or maybe a distinct
bugzilla.netbeans.apache.org domain.
I don't have an opinion on what's better, just wanted to mention the idea.
-Bertrand
Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
OK, look, it's all open to discussion. If we want to migrate the whole
Bugzilla database, let's do it. From Jiri Kovalsky, I got the feeling he
had the idea of starting from scratch, i.e., issue 0 and then onwards.
However, indeed, there are clearly diverging needs and opinions and in
principle there's nothing stopping us from migrating everything. Let's
discuss and argue the pros and cons.
Gj
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 6:18 PM, Vladimir Voskresensky <
Vladimir.Voskresensky@oracle.com> wrote:
> Hello
>
> I'm also confused now... I was under impression that original plan was to
> migrate DB...
>
> On 06/22/17 07:06 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
>
>> What it looks like we're going to do is to create new issues and point
>> where relevant to existing issues in Bugzilla.
>>
>> I.e., we're not going to move the entire NetBeans Bugzilla to JIRA. A lot
>> of the issues are not relevant anymore -- we're essentially beginning from
>> scratch and going to create new issues, i.e., ones that we find ourselves
>> as Apache NetBeans community and those that we specifically care about to
>> JIRA at Apache.
>>
>> Migration of at least open issues is also something worth considering,
>> i.e., not absolutely everything, but a subcategory that we decide to find
>> relevant.
>>
>
> If not migrating, then what's going to happen with Bugzilla?
> Is it going to live at least in read-only mode?
> For us as developers closed issues are as important as version control
> history, because 99% of our commits mention Bug number which is used as the
> source to discussion, problem description, examples and cross-references.
>
> So, why not just migrate all issues from mapped categories? Ideally
> keeping bug numbers as well to have valid information in donated sources.
>
> Thanks,
> Vladimir.
>
>
>
>> Gj
>>
>>
>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Cezariusz Marek <
>> cezariusz.marek@comarch.pl
>>
>>> wrote:
>>> JIRA has a very flexible Bugzilla importer. I would reconsider the
>>> migration
>>> at least open issues.
>>>
>>> --
>>> Cezariusz Marek
>>> Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
>>> Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
>>>
>>>
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapache@gmail.com]
>>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:45 PM
>>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>>> Subject: Re: NetBeans & JIRA
>>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm confused now, You don't take over the whole content of bugzilla to
>>> Jira?
>>> I hope I misunderstand something. I find the history very important.
>>>
>>> Regards, Raphael
>>>
>>> Am .06.2017, 15:14 Uhr, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga
>>> <ge...@googlemail.com>:
>>>
>>> 1. Yes.
>>>> 2. Yes.
>>>>
>>>> Gj
>>>>
>>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Christian Lenz
>>>> <ch...@gmx.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>>
>>>>> so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for
>>>>> NetBeans tickets, right?
>>>>>
>>>>> 1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA
>>>>> from now on?
>>>>>
>>>>> 2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc.
>>>>> to JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and
>>>>> a initial description.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Chris
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>> --
>>> My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
>>>
>>>
>>>
>
Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Vladimir Voskresensky <Vl...@oracle.com>.
Hello
I'm also confused now... I was under impression that original plan was
to migrate DB...
On 06/22/17 07:06 PM, Geertjan Wielenga wrote:
> What it looks like we're going to do is to create new issues and point
> where relevant to existing issues in Bugzilla.
>
> I.e., we're not going to move the entire NetBeans Bugzilla to JIRA. A lot
> of the issues are not relevant anymore -- we're essentially beginning from
> scratch and going to create new issues, i.e., ones that we find ourselves
> as Apache NetBeans community and those that we specifically care about to
> JIRA at Apache.
>
> Migration of at least open issues is also something worth considering,
> i.e., not absolutely everything, but a subcategory that we decide to find
> relevant.
If not migrating, then what's going to happen with Bugzilla?
Is it going to live at least in read-only mode?
For us as developers closed issues are as important as version control
history, because 99% of our commits mention Bug number which is used as
the source to discussion, problem description, examples and
cross-references.
So, why not just migrate all issues from mapped categories? Ideally
keeping bug numbers as well to have valid information in donated sources.
Thanks,
Vladimir.
>
> Gj
>
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Cezariusz Marek <cezariusz.marek@comarch.pl
>> wrote:
>> JIRA has a very flexible Bugzilla importer. I would reconsider the
>> migration
>> at least open issues.
>>
>> --
>> Cezariusz Marek
>> Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
>> Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
>>
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapache@gmail.com]
>> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:45 PM
>> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
>> Subject: Re: NetBeans & JIRA
>>
>> Hi all,
>>
>> I'm confused now, You don't take over the whole content of bugzilla to
>> Jira?
>> I hope I misunderstand something. I find the history very important.
>>
>> Regards, Raphael
>>
>> Am .06.2017, 15:14 Uhr, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga
>> <ge...@googlemail.com>:
>>
>>> 1. Yes.
>>> 2. Yes.
>>>
>>> Gj
>>>
>>> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Christian Lenz
>>> <ch...@gmx.net>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hey,
>>>>
>>>> so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for
>>>> NetBeans tickets, right?
>>>>
>>>> 1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA
>>>> from now on?
>>>>
>>>> 2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc.
>>>> to JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and
>>>> a initial description.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Regards
>>>>
>>>> Chris
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>> --
>> My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
>>
>>
Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
What it looks like we're going to do is to create new issues and point
where relevant to existing issues in Bugzilla.
I.e., we're not going to move the entire NetBeans Bugzilla to JIRA. A lot
of the issues are not relevant anymore -- we're essentially beginning from
scratch and going to create new issues, i.e., ones that we find ourselves
as Apache NetBeans community and those that we specifically care about to
JIRA at Apache.
Migration of at least open issues is also something worth considering,
i.e., not absolutely everything, but a subcategory that we decide to find
relevant.
Gj
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 3:58 PM, Cezariusz Marek <cezariusz.marek@comarch.pl
> wrote:
> JIRA has a very flexible Bugzilla importer. I would reconsider the
> migration
> at least open issues.
>
> --
> Cezariusz Marek
> Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
> Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapache@gmail.com]
> Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:45 PM
> To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
> Subject: Re: NetBeans & JIRA
>
> Hi all,
>
> I'm confused now, You don't take over the whole content of bugzilla to
> Jira?
> I hope I misunderstand something. I find the history very important.
>
> Regards, Raphael
>
> Am .06.2017, 15:14 Uhr, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga
> <ge...@googlemail.com>:
>
> > 1. Yes.
> > 2. Yes.
> >
> > Gj
> >
> > On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Christian Lenz
> > <ch...@gmx.net>
> > wrote:
> >
> >> Hey,
> >>
> >> so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for
> >> NetBeans tickets, right?
> >>
> >> 1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA
> >> from now on?
> >>
> >> 2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc.
> >> to JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and
> >> a initial description.
> >>
> >>
> >> Regards
> >>
> >> Chris
> >>
> >>
>
>
> --
> My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
>
>
RE: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Cezariusz Marek <ce...@comarch.pl>.
JIRA has a very flexible Bugzilla importer. I would reconsider the migration
at least open issues.
--
Cezariusz Marek
Mobile +48 608 646 494, Phone +48 33 484 6900, http://www.comarch.com/
Comarch SA, ul. Michałowicza 12, 43-300 Bielsko-Biała, POLAND
-----Original Message-----
From: Raphael Bircher [mailto:rbircherapache@gmail.com]
Sent: Thursday, June 22, 2017 3:45 PM
To: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Subject: Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Hi all,
I'm confused now, You don't take over the whole content of bugzilla to Jira?
I hope I misunderstand something. I find the history very important.
Regards, Raphael
Am .06.2017, 15:14 Uhr, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com>:
> 1. Yes.
> 2. Yes.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Christian Lenz
> <ch...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for
>> NetBeans tickets, right?
>>
>> 1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA
>> from now on?
>>
>> 2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc.
>> to JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and
>> a initial description.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
--
My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Raphael Bircher <rb...@gmail.com>.
Hi all,
I'm confused now, You don't take over the whole content of bugzilla to
Jira? I hope I misunderstand something. I find the history very important.
Regards, Raphael
Am .06.2017, 15:14 Uhr, schrieb Geertjan Wielenga
<ge...@googlemail.com>:
> 1. Yes.
> 2. Yes.
>
> Gj
>
> On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
> wrote:
>
>> Hey,
>>
>> so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for
>> NetBeans
>> tickets, right?
>>
>> 1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA from
>> now on?
>>
>> 2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc. to
>> JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and a
>> initial
>> description.
>>
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Chris
>>
>>
--
My introduction https://youtu.be/Ln4vly5sxYU
AW: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>.
Wuhu, great 😊. Thx.
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Von: Geertjan Wielenga
Gesendet: Donnerstag, 22. Juni 2017 15:14
An: dev@netbeans.incubator.apache.org
Betreff: Re: NetBeans & JIRA
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
Gj
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for NetBeans
> tickets, right?
>
> 1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA from
> now on?
>
> 2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc. to
> JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and a initial
> description.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
>
Re: NetBeans & JIRA
Posted by Geertjan Wielenga <ge...@googlemail.com>.
1. Yes.
2. Yes.
Gj
On Thu, Jun 22, 2017 at 2:19 PM, Christian Lenz <ch...@gmx.net>
wrote:
> Hey,
>
> so as I understand it right, JIRA will be the main bugtracker for NetBeans
> tickets, right?
>
> 1. Does that mean, that each bug/enhancement can be created in JIRA from
> now on?
>
> 2. Does that mean, that I can migrate my tickets, attachtments etc. to
> JIRA? Migrate means, create new one with the link to bugzilla and a initial
> description.
>
>
> Regards
>
> Chris
>
>