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Re: New OpenEJB website
Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which I don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template to use for the launch.
If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at least new and different enough.
-David
On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the new web
> site.
> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache OpenEJB
> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>
> Any thoughts?
>
> Jean-Louis
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
Found you and added you as an admin
User: danielshaischt
(yay gmail and iPhones)
On Sunday, October 2, 2011, dsh <da...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> The confluence ID will be 'dsh' AFAIK... at least that's my p.a.o login
ID.
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 6:56 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> That is a big help! I'm headed to the airport in 5 minutes. But if
someone can get you admin access to confluence you could start playing
around with the template.
>>
>> Jean-louis and Jonathan are admins as are a few others (those are just
the ones I remember adding recently). They could hook you up.
>>
>> Shoot me your confluence id. Maybe there'll be net in the airport.
>>
>> -David
>>
>> On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, dsh wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I tried to extract the relevant images [1] from the mockup. Does that
>>> already help creating a template? Next step would be creating a CSS
>>> for the various cast shadows in the left and right navigation panes.
>>>
>>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~dsh/oejbsite/
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> PS: I noticed that the mockup did contain some blur because of the
>>> JPEG format used to save the image.
>>>
>>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:02 PM, dsh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal
>>>>> in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever
>>>>> pattern later on ;)
>>>>
>>>> That would be the perfect scenario, yes. :)
>>>>
>>>>> PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it
>>>>> while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some
>>>>> templates to get the website online ASAP.
>>>>
>>>> That's the idea. Or "an" idea at least :)
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <
david.blevins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints
and
>>>>>>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yep. Vaguely stated at best.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal"
statement which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us
and try again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a
"bikeshed" pattern[1].
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Probably the best way to phrase it:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs
to agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its
a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for
as long as it takes.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <
david.blevins@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache
announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date.
Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't
have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard l
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
The confluence ID will be 'dsh' AFAIK... at least that's my p.a.o login ID.
Cheers
Daniel
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 6:56 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> That is a big help! I'm headed to the airport in 5 minutes. But if someone can get you admin access to confluence you could start playing around with the template.
>
> Jean-louis and Jonathan are admins as are a few others (those are just the ones I remember adding recently). They could hook you up.
>
> Shoot me your confluence id. Maybe there'll be net in the airport.
>
> -David
>
> On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, dsh wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I tried to extract the relevant images [1] from the mockup. Does that
>> already help creating a template? Next step would be creating a CSS
>> for the various cast shadows in the left and right navigation panes.
>>
>> [1] http://people.apache.org/~dsh/oejbsite/
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>> PS: I noticed that the mockup did contain some blur because of the
>> JPEG format used to save the image.
>>
>> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:02 PM, dsh wrote:
>>>
>>>> So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal
>>>> in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever
>>>> pattern later on ;)
>>>
>>> That would be the perfect scenario, yes. :)
>>>
>>>> PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it
>>>> while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some
>>>> templates to get the website online ASAP.
>>>
>>> That's the idea. Or "an" idea at least :)
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
>>>>>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> Yep. Vaguely stated at best.
>>>>>
>>>>>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
>>>>>
>>>>> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a "bikeshed" pattern[1].
>>>>>
>>>>> Probably the best way to phrase it:
>>>>>
>>>>> We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
>>>>>
>>>>> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for as long as it takes.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>>>>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean Louis
>>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>>>>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>>>>>>> temporary.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>>>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>>>>>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
That is a big help! I'm headed to the airport in 5 minutes. But if someone can get you admin access to confluence you could start playing around with the template.
Jean-louis and Jonathan are admins as are a few others (those are just the ones I remember adding recently). They could hook you up.
Shoot me your confluence id. Maybe there'll be net in the airport.
-David
On Oct 2, 2011, at 9:07 AM, dsh wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I tried to extract the relevant images [1] from the mockup. Does that
> already help creating a template? Next step would be creating a CSS
> for the various cast shadows in the left and right navigation panes.
>
> [1] http://people.apache.org/~dsh/oejbsite/
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> PS: I noticed that the mockup did contain some blur because of the
> JPEG format used to save the image.
>
> On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:02 PM, dsh wrote:
>>
>>> So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal
>>> in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever
>>> pattern later on ;)
>>
>> That would be the perfect scenario, yes. :)
>>
>>> PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it
>>> while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some
>>> templates to get the website online ASAP.
>>
>> That's the idea. Or "an" idea at least :)
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
>>>>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
>>>>
>>>> Yep. Vaguely stated at best.
>>>>
>>>>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
>>>>
>>>> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a "bikeshed" pattern[1].
>>>>
>>>> Probably the best way to phrase it:
>>>>
>>>> We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
>>>>
>>>> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for as long as it takes.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Daniel
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>>>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean Louis
>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>>>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>>>>>> temporary.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>>>>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
Hi,
I tried to extract the relevant images [1] from the mockup. Does that
already help creating a template? Next step would be creating a CSS
for the various cast shadows in the left and right navigation panes.
[1] http://people.apache.org/~dsh/oejbsite/
Cheers
Daniel
PS: I noticed that the mockup did contain some blur because of the
JPEG format used to save the image.
On Sun, Oct 2, 2011 at 12:38 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:02 PM, dsh wrote:
>
>> So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal
>> in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever
>> pattern later on ;)
>
> That would be the perfect scenario, yes. :)
>
>> PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it
>> while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some
>> templates to get the website online ASAP.
>
> That's the idea. Or "an" idea at least :)
>
>
> -David
>
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
>>>
>>>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
>>>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
>>>
>>> Yep. Vaguely stated at best.
>>>
>>>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
>>>
>>> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a "bikeshed" pattern[1].
>>>
>>> Probably the best way to phrase it:
>>>
>>> We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
>>>
>>> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for as long as it takes.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Daniel
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
>>>>>
>>>>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean Louis
>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>>>>> temporary.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>>>>> least
>>>>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>>>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 1, 2011, at 3:02 PM, dsh wrote:
> So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal
> in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever
> pattern later on ;)
That would be the perfect scenario, yes. :)
> PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it
> while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some
> templates to get the website online ASAP.
That's the idea. Or "an" idea at least :)
-David
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
>>
>>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
>>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
>>
>> Yep. Vaguely stated at best.
>>
>>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
>>
>> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a "bikeshed" pattern[1].
>>
>> Probably the best way to phrase it:
>>
>> We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
>>
>> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for as long as it takes.
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>>
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Daniel
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>>>
>>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
>>>>
>>>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean Louis
>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>>>> temporary.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>>>> I
>>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>>>> least
>>>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>>>> new
>>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
So call out the problem statement, the constraints and the final goal
in the beginning and you don't need to fear to having to fix whatever
pattern later on ;)
Cheers
Daniel
PS: I suspect the goal at hand is -- as I learned to understand it
while reading this thread again -- to turn the mockup image into some
templates to get the website online ASAP.
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:42 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
>
>> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
>> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
>
> Yep. Vaguely stated at best.
>
>> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
>
> Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a "bikeshed" pattern[1].
>
> Probably the best way to phrase it:
>
> We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
>
> The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for as long as it takes.
>
>
> -David
>
>
> [1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>
>>
>> Cheers
>> Daniel
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>>
>>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
>>>
>>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>>
>>>> Jean Louis
>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>>> temporary.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>>> I
>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>>> least
>>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>>> new
>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>>
>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:59 PM, dsh wrote:
> I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
> goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
Yep. Vaguely stated at best.
> The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
Right, was targeting the "collect ideas and get new proposal" statement which is dangerously close to "let's throw away what they gave us and try again". No one ever said that, just making sure we don't start a "bikeshed" pattern[1].
Probably the best way to phrase it:
We can paint the bikeshed as many times as we want
The fallacy of the bikeshed metaphore is that somehow everyone needs to agree on a color before you can paint the bikeshed. When in reality its a simple task and you can just paint the bikeshed and keep repainting it for as long as it takes.
-David
[1] http://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/bikeshed
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>>
>> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
>>
>> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>
>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>
>>> Jean Louis
>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>
>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>> temporary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>> I
>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>> least
>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>> new
>>>>> web
>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
I wouldn't call it perfectionism. It is just that the constraints and
goals weren't pretty clear at the beginning of this thread ;)
The icons I requested aren't even related to the website itself...
Cheers
Daniel
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:54 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
>
> If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
>
> My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
>
>
> -David
>
> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>
>> Hi,
>>
>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>
>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>
>> Jean Louis
>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>
>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>
>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>> temporary.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>> I
>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>> least
>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>> new
>>>> web
>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>
>
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
FYI, to all. Chatting with Sally who does all the Apache announcements and it looks like either the 5th or 6th will be the date. Anything later than that and JavaOne is essentially over. So if we don't have something in place by then, we'll end up launching with the old site.
If we get too picky I think we're going to learn a hard lesson in perfectionism.
My recommendation would be for us to get the actual template files for the site as shown in the pic. Someone here can work on getting that turned into a velocity template and up on the site. Then we can push a new round of requirements at the designers.
-David
On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>
> Hopefully on Monday.
>
> Jean Louis
> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>
>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>
>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>
>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
> temporary.
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
> I
>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
> least
>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
> new
>>> web
>>>>>> site.
>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
> OpenEJB
>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
Will try to start hacking on Monday. Hope to have something to show you by
the end of the day.
Jean Louis
Le 1 oct. 2011 23:02, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:45 PM, dsh wrote:
>
>> Maybe if that's not to much, your graphics artist (designer) could try
>> to come up with several proposals for a new logo. That way we could
>> then vote on the one with the youngest/freshest look?
>
> +1 to that of course. I expect that process will take a few weeks and
whatever we come up with in the next couple days will only be the beginning
of the process and not the end.
>
> We can have a "beta" site for the beta release and a complete different
site for the final.
>
> That would actually be kind of fun.
>
>
> -David
>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect
all
>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>
>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>
>>> Jean Louis
>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit
:
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>
>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's
only
>>> temporary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <
david.blevins@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French,
which
>>> I
>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great
template
>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be
perfect
>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>> least
>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of
the
>>> new
>>>>> web
>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>
>>>
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 1, 2011, at 2:10 PM, dsh wrote:
> We could have a beta ribbon in one corner for the beta site...
> something like [1]... just an idea.
Oh that's neat! I like it.
-David
> [1] http://quickribbon.com/
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:02 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:45 PM, dsh wrote:
>>
>>> Maybe if that's not to much, your graphics artist (designer) could try
>>> to come up with several proposals for a new logo. That way we could
>>> then vote on the one with the youngest/freshest look?
>>
>> +1 to that of course. I expect that process will take a few weeks and whatever we come up with in the next couple days will only be the beginning of the process and not the end.
>>
>> We can have a "beta" site for the beta release and a complete different site for the final.
>>
>> That would actually be kind of fun.
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>>
>>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>>
>>>> Jean Louis
>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>
>>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>>
>>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>>
>>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>>> temporary.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>>> I
>>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>>> least
>>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>>> new
>>>>>> web
>>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
We could have a beta ribbon in one corner for the beta site...
something like [1]... just an idea.
[1] http://quickribbon.com/
Cheers
Daniel
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:02 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:45 PM, dsh wrote:
>
>> Maybe if that's not to much, your graphics artist (designer) could try
>> to come up with several proposals for a new logo. That way we could
>> then vote on the one with the youngest/freshest look?
>
> +1 to that of course. I expect that process will take a few weeks and whatever we come up with in the next couple days will only be the beginning of the process and not the end.
>
> We can have a "beta" site for the beta release and a complete different site for the final.
>
> That would actually be kind of fun.
>
>
> -David
>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>>
>>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>>
>>> Jean Louis
>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>
>>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>>
>>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>>
>>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>>> temporary.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>>> I
>>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>>> least
>>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>>> new
>>>>> web
>>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>>
>>>
>
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 1, 2011, at 1:45 PM, dsh wrote:
> Maybe if that's not to much, your graphics artist (designer) could try
> to come up with several proposals for a new logo. That way we could
> then vote on the one with the youngest/freshest look?
+1 to that of course. I expect that process will take a few weeks and whatever we come up with in the next couple days will only be the beginning of the process and not the end.
We can have a "beta" site for the beta release and a complete different site for the final.
That would actually be kind of fun.
-David
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
>> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>>
>> Hopefully on Monday.
>>
>> Jean Louis
>> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>
>>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>>
>>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>>
>>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
>> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>>
>>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
>> temporary.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>>
>>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
>> I
>>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
>> least
>>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> -David
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
>> new
>>>> web
>>>>>>> site.
>>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
>> OpenEJB
>>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> --
>>>>>
>>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>>
>>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
Maybe if that's not to much, your graphics artist (designer) could try
to come up with several proposals for a new logo. That way we could
then vote on the one with the youngest/freshest look?
Cheers
Daniel
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 10:30 PM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
> your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
>
> Hopefully on Monday.
>
> Jean Louis
> Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>
>> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>>
>>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>>
>> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
> possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>>
>> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
> temporary.
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>>
>>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>>
>>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
> I
>>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>>
>>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>>
>>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>>> to use for the launch.
>>>>>
>>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
> least
>>> new and different enough.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> -David
>>>>>
>>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
> new
>>> web
>>>>>> site.
>>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
> OpenEJB
>>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> --
>>>>
>>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>>
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by Jean-Louis MONTEIRO <je...@gmail.com>.
Hi,
Didn't get time yesterday to get something better. But, I can collect all
your ideas, requirements, etc and get a new proposal from our designers.
Hopefully on Monday.
Jean Louis
Le 1 oct. 2011 22:27, "David Blevins" <da...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>
> On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
>
>> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
>
> We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and
possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
>
> We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only
temporary.
>
>
> -David
>
>
>> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>>
>>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which
I
>> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>>
>>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>>
>>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
>> to use for the launch.
>>>>
>>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
>> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at
least
>> new and different enough.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> -David
>>>>
>>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the
new
>> web
>>>>> site.
>>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache
OpenEJB
>>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>>
>>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>>
>>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Karan Singh Malhi
>>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>.
On Oct 1, 2011, at 12:00 PM, Romain Manni-Bucau wrote:
> I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
We can certainly do that. I expect we'll keep playing with the site and possible TomEE logos for the next few weeks.
We just need something new in place for the announcement even if it's only temporary.
-David
> Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
>> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
>> regarding TomEE launch.
>>
>> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which I
> don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>>
>>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>>
>>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
> to use for the launch.
>>>
>>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
> for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at least
> new and different enough.
>>>
>>>
>>> -David
>>>
>>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>>
>>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the new
> web
>>>> site.
>>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache OpenEJB
>>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>>
>>>> Any thoughts?
>>>>
>>>> Jean-Louis
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>>
>> Karan Singh Malhi
>> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
I would like something more dynamic, maybe more orange like our bean.
Le 1 oct. 2011 20:51, "Karan Malhi" <ka...@gmail.com> a écrit :
> I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
> regarding TomEE launch.
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which I
don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>
>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>
>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
to use for the launch.
>>
>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at least
new and different enough.
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the new
web
>>> site.
>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache OpenEJB
>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Jean-Louis
>>
>>
>
>
>
> --
>
> Karan Singh Malhi
> twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by Karan Malhi <ka...@gmail.com>.
I love it!. +1 on this template. Will share my ideas in another email
regarding TomEE launch.
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 11:03 AM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which I don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>
> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>
> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template to use for the launch.
>
> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at least new and different enough.
>
>
> -David
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>
>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the new web
>> site.
>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache OpenEJB
>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Jean-Louis
>
>
--
Karan Singh Malhi
twitter.com/KaranSinghMalhi
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by Romain Manni-Bucau <rm...@gmail.com>.
I think we donct need a graphist for it.
However i would like a logo more "young".
- Romain
Le 1 oct. 2011 21:07, "dsh" <da...@googlemail.com> a écrit :
> If a graphics artist is already working on a mockup, I'd like to ask
> whether we could get the OEJB icon as a Windoze ico file and as an
> Apple icns file? That way it could be reused in the Eclipse client, as
> favicon and so on...
>
> Icon specs for Windoze: 16x16 (8bit), 16x16 (32bit), 32x32 (8bit),
> 32x32 (32bit), 48x48 (8bit), 48x48 (32bit)
> OS X icon specs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Icon_Image_format
>
> Not sure whether Windoze 7 icons are already using 64x64 or greater...
>
> Cheers
> Daniel
>
> On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com>
wrote:
>> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which I
don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>>
>> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>>
>> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template
to use for the launch.
>>
>> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect
for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at least
new and different enough.
>>
>>
>> -David
>>
>> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>>
>>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the new
web
>>> site.
>>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache OpenEJB
>>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>>
>>> Any thoughts?
>>>
>>> Jean-Louis
>>
>>
Re: New OpenEJB website
Posted by dsh <da...@googlemail.com>.
If a graphics artist is already working on a mockup, I'd like to ask
whether we could get the OEJB icon as a Windoze ico file and as an
Apple icns file? That way it could be reused in the Eclipse client, as
favicon and so on...
Icon specs for Windoze: 16x16 (8bit), 16x16 (32bit), 32x32 (8bit),
32x32 (32bit), 48x48 (8bit), 48x48 (32bit)
OS X icon specs: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_Icon_Image_format
Not sure whether Windoze 7 icons are already using 64x64 or greater...
Cheers
Daniel
On Sat, Oct 1, 2011 at 8:03 PM, David Blevins <da...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Jean-Louis forwarded me this image. The only text was in French, which I don't speak, but it's pretty safe bet to know what it is ;)
>
> http://openejb.staging.apache.org/images/newsite-tan.jpg
>
> Looks nice! Way better than what we have and would be a great template to use for the launch.
>
> If we could get "TomEE" worked into the logo, I think that'd be perfect for the launch. We can always do something else later, but this is at least new and different enough.
>
>
> -David
>
> On Sep 15, 2011, at 2:29 AM, Jean-Louis MONTEIRO wrote:
>
>> FYI, I asked someone in my company to help us with the design of the new web
>> site.
>> If we could get something sexy to accompany the upcoming Apache OpenEJB
>> 4.0.0, that'd be great.
>>
>> Any thoughts?
>>
>> Jean-Louis
>
>