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Posted to users@subversion.apache.org by Gustavo Niemeyer <ni...@conectiva.com> on 2004/02/25 18:15:43 UTC

Subversion Success Story

> Subversion 1.0.0 is ready!  Grab it from:
[...]

I'm sure you are aware about the fantastic product you people have
built, but I'd like to tell you a little story which should give new
users some comfort about it.

Here in Conectiva we used to maintain our packages in a file based
system, storing the latest SRPM packages, and also some old
versions in case something bad happened. For a long time we wanted
to build some system which would make our life easier in the daily
work, and at the same time would give us some flexibility accessing
historic information.

Shortening the history a lot, 1 year and 6 months ago, the first
revision was committed into our repository:

% svn log https://svn.distro.conectiva/repos/cnc -r 1
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r1 | niemeyer | 2002-08-27 17:12:04 -0300 (Tue, 27 Aug 2002) | 1 line

Created basic structure.
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Since then, 5 complete Conectiva Linux distributions were committed
into the repository, and every single update in the distribution is
done using Subversion. We've already surpassed 50000 revisions, in
a 30GB repository. Even though we have had space, memory, and other
kinds of problems around the repository, I'm proud to say we have
never lost a single bit of information since then.

Based on this, the least I could do is sending a big THANK YOU for
everyone involved in the project.

-- 
Gustavo Niemeyer
http://niemeyer.net

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Re: Subversion Success Story

Posted by Ben Reser <be...@reser.org>.
On Fri, Feb 27, 2004 at 11:23:19AM -0600, Eli Carter wrote:
> I've been following Subversion, but I haven't used it.  The description 
> you give above sounds a lot like what I've done with CVS; but I have 
> never really been "happy" with the source control.  Would you be willing 
> to describe some details of how you set things up and used them?  Pros 
> and cons would be nice too...
> 
> I feel I understand the mechanics of committing, merging, tagging, etc., 
> but the policies surrounding those tend to be very ad-hoc or not thought 
> through.  In your use of Subversion, did you come to any conclusions on 
> what policies worked and what didn't?
> 
> Hrmmm... Maybe I should just suggest that you write a white paper about 
> your experience and be done with it. ;)
> 
> Ah well, back to work,

You mean like this:
https://moin.conectiva.com.br/RepositorySystem

-- 
Ben Reser <be...@reser.org>
http://ben.reser.org

"Conscience is the inner voice which warns us somebody may be looking."
- H.L. Mencken

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Re: Subversion Success Story

Posted by kf...@collab.net.
Michael P <su...@krimedawg.org> writes:
> Could everyone reading these messages please make sure not to cc: the
> announce list?
> 
> I understand it's easy to not notice which addresses are in your Cc: list,
> but if everyone could try to be careful to check more around release time,
> that would be appreciated.

The announce@ list is moderated, so this shouldn't be a problem normally.

One unintended message got through due recently to a moderation
mistake, but that's a one-time thing.

(Still, it's nice to trim your CC list, just to save the moderators'
time, though!)

-Karl

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Re: Subversion Success Story

Posted by kf...@collab.net.
Michael P <su...@krimedawg.org> writes:
> Could everyone reading these messages please make sure not to cc: the
> announce list?
> 
> I understand it's easy to not notice which addresses are in your Cc: list,
> but if everyone could try to be careful to check more around release time,
> that would be appreciated.

The announce@ list is moderated, so this shouldn't be a problem normally.

One unintended message got through due recently to a moderation
mistake, but that's a one-time thing.

(Still, it's nice to trim your CC list, just to save the moderators'
time, though!)

-Karl

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Re: Subversion Success Story

Posted by Michael P <su...@krimedawg.org>.
On Fri, 27 Feb 2004, Eli Carter wrote:

> I've been following Subversion, but I haven't used it.  The description
> you give above sounds a lot like what I've done with CVS; but I have
> never really been "happy" with the source control.  Would you be willing
> to describe some details of how you set things up and used them?  Pros
> and cons would be nice too...

Could everyone reading these messages please make sure not to cc: the
announce list?

I understand it's easy to not notice which addresses are in your Cc: list,
but if everyone could try to be careful to check more around release time,
that would be appreciated.

Thanks.

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Re: Subversion Success Story

Posted by Eli Carter <el...@inet.com>.
Gustavo Niemeyer wrote:
[snip]
> Since then, 5 complete Conectiva Linux distributions were committed
> into the repository, and every single update in the distribution is
> done using Subversion. We've already surpassed 50000 revisions, in
> a 30GB repository. Even though we have had space, memory, and other
> kinds of problems around the repository, I'm proud to say we have
> never lost a single bit of information since then.

I've been following Subversion, but I haven't used it.  The description 
you give above sounds a lot like what I've done with CVS; but I have 
never really been "happy" with the source control.  Would you be willing 
to describe some details of how you set things up and used them?  Pros 
and cons would be nice too...

I feel I understand the mechanics of committing, merging, tagging, etc., 
but the policies surrounding those tend to be very ad-hoc or not thought 
through.  In your use of Subversion, did you come to any conclusions on 
what policies worked and what didn't?

Hrmmm... Maybe I should just suggest that you write a white paper about 
your experience and be done with it. ;)

Ah well, back to work,

Eli
--------------------. "If it ain't broke now,
Eli Carter           \                  it will be soon." -- crypto-gram
eli.carter(a)inet.com `-------------------------------------------------




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Re: Subversion Success Story

Posted by Eli Carter <el...@inet.com>.
Gustavo Niemeyer wrote:
[snip]
> Since then, 5 complete Conectiva Linux distributions were committed
> into the repository, and every single update in the distribution is
> done using Subversion. We've already surpassed 50000 revisions, in
> a 30GB repository. Even though we have had space, memory, and other
> kinds of problems around the repository, I'm proud to say we have
> never lost a single bit of information since then.

I've been following Subversion, but I haven't used it.  The description 
you give above sounds a lot like what I've done with CVS; but I have 
never really been "happy" with the source control.  Would you be willing 
to describe some details of how you set things up and used them?  Pros 
and cons would be nice too...

I feel I understand the mechanics of committing, merging, tagging, etc., 
but the policies surrounding those tend to be very ad-hoc or not thought 
through.  In your use of Subversion, did you come to any conclusions on 
what policies worked and what didn't?

Hrmmm... Maybe I should just suggest that you write a white paper about 
your experience and be done with it. ;)

Ah well, back to work,

Eli
--------------------. "If it ain't broke now,
Eli Carter           \                  it will be soon." -- crypto-gram
eli.carter(a)inet.com `-------------------------------------------------




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