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Posted to users@cloudstack.apache.org by Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com> on 2018/12/11 20:37:28 UTC

vSAN

Hello folks,
Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?

Thanks

Re: vSAN

Posted by Christoffer Pedersen <vr...@vrod.dk>.
Most people forget that it’s not the sequential performance that counts.. it’s the 4K random performance and even for NVMe-SSD’s, a redundant 10G connection between the hosts will be absolutely sufficient.

However split it up in pairs so the one pair takes care of ceph/vsan, the other of the client traffic.

Chris

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> On 12. Dec 2018, at 09:07, Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Well, that requires some math I guess, but certainly not less than 10Gbps...
> 
> You need to be aware of client vs replication traffic between storage nodes
> (hosts, whatever) and do some math...
> 
> With single NVMe, being able to push 1GB/s at minimum = 8 Gbps ( 8Gbps per
> single NVMe device)...and enough clients, I would guess at least 40 Gbps
> network makes sense to leverage couple of NVMe per host/storage node.
> 
> Again depends also on client IO requirements as well... Its more an art,
> than a science, to make right decision.
> 
> Cheers
> 
> 
>> On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 23:09 Fariborz Navidan <mdvlinquest@gmail.com wrote:
>> 
>> How much is minimum bandwidth requirement for storage network in which all
>> underlying devices are NVMe SSD?
>> 
>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:34 AM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>>> ScaleIO is supposed to be better/more performant...yep.
>>> 
>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 23:00, Ivan Kudryavtsev <kudryavtsev_ia@bw-sw.com
>>> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>>> Fariborz, you also can use ScaleIO exported through iSCSI if you are ok
>>> to
>>>> go with local storage.
>>>> 
>>>> вт, 11 дек. 2018 г. в 16:51, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>:
>>>> 
>>>>> Something like VMware vSAN
>>>>> 
>>>>> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Andrija Panic <
>> andrija.panic@gmail.com
>>>> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> CEPH ?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 21:37, Fariborz Navidan <
>>> mdvlinquest@gmail.com>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hello folks,
>>>>>>> Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Andrija Panić
>>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> --
>>>> With best regards, Ivan Kudryavtsev
>>>> Bitworks LLC
>>>> Cell RU: +7-923-414-1515
>>>> Cell USA: +1-201-257-1512
>>>> WWW: http://bitworks.software/ <http://bw-sw.com/>
>>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> --
>>> 
>>> Andrija Panić
>>> 
>> 

Re: vSAN

Posted by Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>.
Well, that requires some math I guess, but certainly not less than 10Gbps...

You need to be aware of client vs replication traffic between storage nodes
(hosts, whatever) and do some math...

With single NVMe, being able to push 1GB/s at minimum = 8 Gbps ( 8Gbps per
single NVMe device)...and enough clients, I would guess at least 40 Gbps
network makes sense to leverage couple of NVMe per host/storage node.

Again depends also on client IO requirements as well... Its more an art,
than a science, to make right decision.

Cheers


On Tue, Dec 11, 2018, 23:09 Fariborz Navidan <mdvlinquest@gmail.com wrote:

> How much is minimum bandwidth requirement for storage network in which all
> underlying devices are NVMe SSD?
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:34 AM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > ScaleIO is supposed to be better/more performant...yep.
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 23:00, Ivan Kudryavtsev <kudryavtsev_ia@bw-sw.com
> >
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Fariborz, you also can use ScaleIO exported through iSCSI if you are ok
> > to
> > > go with local storage.
> > >
> > > вт, 11 дек. 2018 г. в 16:51, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>:
> > >
> > > > Something like VMware vSAN
> > > >
> > > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Andrija Panic <
> andrija.panic@gmail.com
> > >
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > CEPH ?
> > > > >
> > > > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 21:37, Fariborz Navidan <
> > mdvlinquest@gmail.com>
> > > > > wrote:
> > > > >
> > > > > > Hello folks,
> > > > > > Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Thanks
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > --
> > > > >
> > > > > Andrija Panić
> > > > >
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > > With best regards, Ivan Kudryavtsev
> > > Bitworks LLC
> > > Cell RU: +7-923-414-1515
> > > Cell USA: +1-201-257-1512
> > > WWW: http://bitworks.software/ <http://bw-sw.com/>
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Andrija Panić
> >
>

Re: vSAN

Posted by Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>.
How much is minimum bandwidth requirement for storage network in which all
underlying devices are NVMe SSD?

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:34 AM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> ScaleIO is supposed to be better/more performant...yep.
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 23:00, Ivan Kudryavtsev <ku...@bw-sw.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Fariborz, you also can use ScaleIO exported through iSCSI if you are ok
> to
> > go with local storage.
> >
> > вт, 11 дек. 2018 г. в 16:51, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>:
> >
> > > Something like VMware vSAN
> > >
> > > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Andrija Panic <andrija.panic@gmail.com
> >
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > CEPH ?
> > > >
> > > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 21:37, Fariborz Navidan <
> mdvlinquest@gmail.com>
> > > > wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hello folks,
> > > > > Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?
> > > > >
> > > > > Thanks
> > > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > >
> > > > Andrija Panić
> > > >
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> > With best regards, Ivan Kudryavtsev
> > Bitworks LLC
> > Cell RU: +7-923-414-1515
> > Cell USA: +1-201-257-1512
> > WWW: http://bitworks.software/ <http://bw-sw.com/>
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
>

Re: vSAN

Posted by Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>.
ScaleIO is supposed to be better/more performant...yep.

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 23:00, Ivan Kudryavtsev <ku...@bw-sw.com>
wrote:

> Fariborz, you also can use ScaleIO exported through iSCSI if you are ok to
> go with local storage.
>
> вт, 11 дек. 2018 г. в 16:51, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>:
>
> > Something like VMware vSAN
> >
> > On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > CEPH ?
> > >
> > > On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 21:37, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>
> > > wrote:
> > >
> > > > Hello folks,
> > > > Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?
> > > >
> > > > Thanks
> > > >
> > >
> > >
> > > --
> > >
> > > Andrija Panić
> > >
> >
>
>
> --
> With best regards, Ivan Kudryavtsev
> Bitworks LLC
> Cell RU: +7-923-414-1515
> Cell USA: +1-201-257-1512
> WWW: http://bitworks.software/ <http://bw-sw.com/>
>


-- 

Andrija Panić

Re: vSAN

Posted by Ivan Kudryavtsev <ku...@bw-sw.com>.
Fariborz, you also can use ScaleIO exported through iSCSI if you are ok to
go with local storage.

вт, 11 дек. 2018 г. в 16:51, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>:

> Something like VMware vSAN
>
> On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > CEPH ?
> >
> > On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 21:37, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > Hello folks,
> > > Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?
> > >
> > > Thanks
> > >
> >
> >
> > --
> >
> > Andrija Panić
> >
>


-- 
With best regards, Ivan Kudryavtsev
Bitworks LLC
Cell RU: +7-923-414-1515
Cell USA: +1-201-257-1512
WWW: http://bitworks.software/ <http://bw-sw.com/>

Re: vSAN

Posted by Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>.
Something like VMware vSAN

On Wed, Dec 12, 2018 at 1:15 AM Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> CEPH ?
>
> On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 21:37, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Hello folks,
> > Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?
> >
> > Thanks
> >
>
>
> --
>
> Andrija Panić
>

Re: vSAN

Posted by Andrija Panic <an...@gmail.com>.
CEPH ?

On Tue, 11 Dec 2018 at 21:37, Fariborz Navidan <md...@gmail.com>
wrote:

> Hello folks,
> Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?
>
> Thanks
>


-- 

Andrija Panić

RE: vSAN

Posted by Grégoire Lamodière <g....@dimsi.fr>.
HI Fariborz, 

If you work in Xenserver world, this project might be interesting for your : 
https://xen-orchestra.com/blog/tag/xosan/

Cheers.

Grégoire

-----Message d'origine-----
De : Fariborz Navidan [mailto:mdvlinquest@gmail.com] 
Envoyé : mardi 11 décembre 2018 21:37
À : users@cloudstack.apache.org
Objet : vSAN

Hello folks,
Do you know of any good vSAN software working with CloudStack?

Thanks