Unable to log into vesta

[Alex Boisvert <bo...@apache.org>]

For several days now I've been unable to log into vesta.  It keeps saying:

*** System restart required ***
Last login: Wed Nov 17 01:03:17 2010 from minotaur.apache.org
Connection to vesta.apache.org closed.

Anybody can give it a little nudge? :)

thanks,
alex

RE: Unable to log into vesta

["Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Antoine Toulme [mailto:antoine.toulme@gmail.com] On Behalf Of
> Antoine Toulme
> Sent: Tuesday, 23 November 2010 6:56 AM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Re: Unable to log into vesta
> 
> I can't remember being given sudo access - just tried and it looks like
> I will need to research my password.

Note that 'sudo' access for yourself is 'sudo su - hudson' - so you can sudo
to the Hudson user only, this should help though.

If you need a password reset let me know.

Note that all projects are entitled to a Ubuntu VM or FreeBSD jail that most
use
for showcasing/testing their project software. Hudson and its slaves are for
CI testing only and should not be used as a development environment.
(Installing
Gems as the Hudson user and leaving Hudson to the rest should not be as
complicated
as you make it sound.)

If you feel you are using the Hudson slave for more than just installing the
basic
needed dependencies and letting Hudson do the rest for your integrating
testing, then
you are in need of a VM/Jail and need to ask for one. Then throttle back
doing any
dev work on the Hudson slaves.

Gav...

> 
> Sorry for the noise then.
> 
> Antoine
> 
> On Nov 22, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:
> 
> > On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Antoine Toulme <antoine@lunar-
> ocean.com> wrote:
> >> Ideally, we would install those gems in a folder under a common
> group to both our users and the hudson user, on vesta. That would make
> maintenance much simpler.
> >
> > Since you're given sudo when getting an account on vesta, why the
> need
> > for a group? As for an account for Alex, just open an infra ticket
> and
> > we'll fix it.
> >
> > /niklas

Re: Unable to log into vesta

[Antoine Toulme <an...@lunar-ocean.com>]

I can't remember being given sudo access - just tried and it looks like I will need to research my password.

Sorry for the noise then.

Antoine

On Nov 22, 2010, at 12:53 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@lunar-ocean.com> wrote:
>> Ideally, we would install those gems in a folder under a common group to both our users and the hudson user, on vesta. That would make maintenance much simpler.
> 
> Since you're given sudo when getting an account on vesta, why the need
> for a group? As for an account for Alex, just open an infra ticket and
> we'll fix it.
> 
> /niklas

Re: Unable to log into vesta

[Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 9:48 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@lunar-ocean.com> wrote:
> Ideally, we would install those gems in a folder under a common group to both our users and the hudson user, on vesta. That would make maintenance much simpler.

Since you're given sudo when getting an account on vesta, why the need
for a group? As for an account for Alex, just open an infra ticket and
we'll fix it.

/niklas

Re: Unable to log into vesta

[Antoine Toulme <an...@lunar-ocean.com>]

Buildr is a Ruby-based project and thus requires a testing environment that is tailored to its needs.
Buildr itself is complex. It requires about 20 ruby gems that we need to install manually, and maintain.

We need the hudson user to have access to those gems. By itself, that is a big problem:
we have to make the files part of the hudson group, as well as their parent folders. Right now, our tests fail as a file mysteriously cannot be accessed.

I shared my account with Alex so he could update gem versions and make sure file access was ok.

Ideally, we would install those gems in a folder under a common group to both our users and the hudson user, on vesta. That would make maintenance much simpler.

I have been short on time to report this to infra and I'm not sure this is possible.

Thanks,

Antoine

On Nov 22, 2010, at 12:25 PM, Niklas Gustavsson wrote:

> On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@lunar-ocean.com> wrote:
>> What if Alex has my permission, and is only working towards maintaining our Buildr test structure (which is really hard to manage right now) ?
> 
> I would say no, we want some form of control who has access to the
> server. Shared logins are seldom a good idea.
> 
>> As Alex replied, we otherwise would need a group or a fake user to host the tests.
> 
> Why is that?
> 
> /niklas

Re: Unable to log into vesta

[Niklas Gustavsson <ni...@protocol7.com>]

On Mon, Nov 22, 2010 at 8:52 PM, Antoine Toulme <an...@lunar-ocean.com> wrote:
> What if Alex has my permission, and is only working towards maintaining our Buildr test structure (which is really hard to manage right now) ?

I would say no, we want some form of control who has access to the
server. Shared logins are seldom a good idea.

> As Alex replied, we otherwise would need a group or a fake user to host the tests.

Why is that?

/niklas

Re: Unable to log into vesta

[Antoine Toulme <an...@lunar-ocean.com>]

What if Alex has my permission, and is only working towards maintaining our Buildr test structure (which is really hard to manage right now) ?

As Alex replied, we otherwise would need a group or a fake user to host the tests. We didn't want to bother infra with this.

Antoine

On Nov 21, 2010, at 4:20 AM, Joe Schaefer wrote:

> That's because you're attempting to use toulmean's account
> instead of your own.  Please stop doing that.
> 
> 
> 
> ----- Original Message ----
>> From: Alex Boisvert <bo...@apache.org>
>> To: builds@apache.org
>> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:49:18 PM
>> Subject: Unable to log into vesta
>> 
>> For several days now I've been unable to log into vesta.  It keeps  saying:
>> 
>> *** System restart required ***
>> Last login: Wed Nov 17  01:03:17 2010 from minotaur.apache.org
>> Connection to vesta.apache.org  closed.
>> 
>> Anybody can give it a little nudge? :)
>> 
>> thanks,
>> alex
>> 
> 
> 
> 

Re: Unable to log into vesta

[Alex Boisvert <al...@gmail.com>]

Sure, then we need to get a better setup to host Buildr build environments
where I can meaningfully help.   I'll discuss with Antoine.

alex


On Sun, Nov 21, 2010 at 4:20 AM, Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>wrote:

> That's because you're attempting to use toulmean's account
> instead of your own.  Please stop doing that.
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----
> > From: Alex Boisvert <bo...@apache.org>
> > To: builds@apache.org
> > Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:49:18 PM
> > Subject: Unable to log into vesta
> >
> > For several days now I've been unable to log into vesta.  It keeps
>  saying:
> >
> > *** System restart required ***
> > Last login: Wed Nov 17  01:03:17 2010 from minotaur.apache.org
> > Connection to vesta.apache.org  closed.
> >
> > Anybody can give it a little nudge? :)
> >
> > thanks,
> > alex
> >
>
>
>
>

Re: Unable to log into vesta

[Joe Schaefer <jo...@yahoo.com>]

That's because you're attempting to use toulmean's account
instead of your own.  Please stop doing that.



----- Original Message ----
> From: Alex Boisvert <bo...@apache.org>
> To: builds@apache.org
> Sent: Sat, November 20, 2010 9:49:18 PM
> Subject: Unable to log into vesta
> 
> For several days now I've been unable to log into vesta.  It keeps  saying:
> 
> *** System restart required ***
> Last login: Wed Nov 17  01:03:17 2010 from minotaur.apache.org
> Connection to vesta.apache.org  closed.
> 
> Anybody can give it a little nudge? :)
> 
> thanks,
> alex
> 


      

RE: Unable to log into vesta

["Gav..." <ga...@16degrees.com.au>]

> -----Original Message-----
> From: alex.boisvert@gmail.com [mailto:alex.boisvert@gmail.com] On
> Behalf Of Alex Boisvert
> Sent: Sunday, 21 November 2010 12:49 PM
> To: builds@apache.org
> Subject: Unable to log into vesta
> 
> For several days now I've been unable to log into vesta.  It keeps
> saying:
> 
> *** System restart required ***
> Last login: Wed Nov 17 01:03:17 2010 from minotaur.apache.org
> Connection to vesta.apache.org closed.
> 
> Anybody can give it a little nudge? :)

Upgrades done and system restarted.

Gav...

> 
> thanks,
> alex