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Posted to users@cocoon.apache.org by R Naithani <rn...@yahoo.com> on 2001/01/02 15:56:01 UTC

Complex output using cocoon

Hi Friends!
I have been studying the cocoon samples and docs for the past 2 days and
this is my question:
Cocoon seems to be an excellent choice for not-too-complex kind of output
(html, voice or wap).
What if we have a very complex html page to be churned via an xsl? (Complex
from the point of view of display)
What I generally is that I create the page using dreamweaver or frontpage,
save it as .html file, then rename it as .jsp file and put my scripts
wherever I want.
Is there a solution equivalent to this one where I can use a visual editing
tool to create my .xsl and then put the PI's wherever I want manually?
Thanks in advance.
Regards,
Rahul.


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Re: Complex output using cocoon

Posted by R Naithani <rn...@yahoo.com>.
Paul,
Shall we start the thinking process?
Count me in if you already have started this.
Regards,
Rahul.

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From: "Paul Russell" <pa...@luminas.co.uk>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 8:45 PM
Subject: Re: Complex output using cocoon


> * R Naithani (rnaithani@yahoo.com) wrote :
> > Hi Friends!
> > Is there a solution equivalent to this one where I can use a visual
editing
> > tool to create my .xsl and then put the PI's wherever I want manually?
> > Thanks in advance.
> > Regards,
> > Rahul.
>
> At the moment, sadly not. I still mock up 'pretty' (read: complex) pages
> in HTML first (although I must admit, being a masochist, I do it
> manually with vim) and then use this HTML to write the stylesheet
> itself. As far as I'm aware, there are no good tools for doing this
> automatically yet. I've vaguely pondered writing one, but I can't
> visualise how to make it user friendly without making it too limiting.
> Anyone got any ideas?
>
>
> Paul
>
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RE: Complex output using cocoon

Posted by Umur Ozkul at Writeme <um...@writeme.com>.
In addition, you can use eXcelon Stylus to ease the conversion of HTML into
XSL. It saved my time.

-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Russell [mailto:paulr@luminas.co.uk]On Behalf Of Paul Russell
Sent: Tuesday, January 02, 2001 4:16 PM
To: cocoon-users@xml.apache.org
Subject: Re: Complex output using cocoon


* R Naithani (rnaithani@yahoo.com) wrote :
> Hi Friends!
> Is there a solution equivalent to this one where I can use a visual
editing
> tool to create my .xsl and then put the PI's wherever I want manually?
> Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> Rahul.

At the moment, sadly not. I still mock up 'pretty' (read: complex) pages
in HTML first (although I must admit, being a masochist, I do it
manually with vim) and then use this HTML to write the stylesheet
itself. As far as I'm aware, there are no good tools for doing this
automatically yet. I've vaguely pondered writing one, but I can't
visualise how to make it user friendly without making it too limiting.
Anyone got any ideas?


Paul

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Re: Complex output using cocoon

Posted by Paul Russell <pa...@luminas.co.uk>.
* R Naithani (rnaithani@yahoo.com) wrote :
> Hi Friends!
> Is there a solution equivalent to this one where I can use a visual editing
> tool to create my .xsl and then put the PI's wherever I want manually?
> Thanks in advance.
> Regards,
> Rahul.

At the moment, sadly not. I still mock up 'pretty' (read: complex) pages
in HTML first (although I must admit, being a masochist, I do it
manually with vim) and then use this HTML to write the stylesheet
itself. As far as I'm aware, there are no good tools for doing this
automatically yet. I've vaguely pondered writing one, but I can't
visualise how to make it user friendly without making it too limiting.
Anyone got any ideas?


Paul

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Paul Russell                                 Email:   paul@luminas.co.uk
Technical Director                             Tel:  +44 (0)20 8553 6622
Luminas Internet Applications                  Fax:  +44 (0)870 28 47489
This is not an official statement or order.    Web:    www.luminas.co.uk