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[DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Hi folks,
A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the CSS in
Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by the
way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of the
whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts [2,3,4,5], I
introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
layout.
But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer to
adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports LESS,
a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's customization
page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
Cheers
Dan
[1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
[2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
[3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
[4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
[5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
[6] http://getbootstrap.com/
[7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
[8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
[9] http://bootswatch.com/
[10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou <o....@gesconsultor.com>.
Hi to all.
Dan, thanks for the input on the schedule.
So we will concentrate on our current release with our custom viewer.
If further help needed on those dates, we can contribute for sure.
Thanks,
Oscar
El 05/09/2013, a las 18:28, Bhargav Golla <bh...@gmail.com> escribió:
> Your plan looks good. Will look forward to working on it after GSoC.
>
> Bhargav Golla
> Developer. Freelancer.
> B.E (Hons.) Computer Science
> BITS-Pilani
> Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
> LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
> | Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
>
>
> On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
>
>> Hi Bhargav,
>> Thanks for the offer. Yeah, the priority is medium-ish, so could well fit
>> in once GSoC is done. I'll do some spikes to see how the work might break
>> out.
>>
>> Right now my thoughts are:
>> 1. strip the app back to have no CSS, ie work on the bare "DOM"
>> 2. add in the full bootstrap CSS/JS.
>> 3. work through the Wicket components one by one, reworking to use
>> bootstrap. The integration that Cuneyt flagged [1] looks promising. Some
>> of those more challenging refactorings would be to remove wicket-select2
>> (for dropdown/choices/autocomplete) and use their type-ahead, the date/time
>> picker (I do like the one we have currently), the menu rendering, and the
>> table sorting. Hopefully the others will be easier, and might be areas
>> where you could contribute.
>>
>> Cheers
>> Dan
>>
>> [1] https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 3 September 2013 18:59, Bhargav Golla <bh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> If we are concentrating on viewers, it would definitely be a good idea to
>>> incorporate Bootstrap into Wicket Viewer. If we the priority of this is
>> not
>>> very high, I can offer to take it sometime post GSoC along with some help
>>> with Bootstrap.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> Bhargav Golla
>>> Developer. Freelancer.
>>> B.E (Hons.) Computer Science
>>> BITS-Pilani
>>> Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
>>> LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
>>> | Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Dan Haywood
>>> <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>
>>>> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the
>> CSS
>>> in
>>>> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by
>> the
>>>> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of
>>> the
>>>> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
>>>>
>>>> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts
>> [2,3,4,5],
>>> I
>>>> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
>>>> layout.
>>>>
>>>> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer
>> to
>>>> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
>>> LESS,
>>>> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
>>> customization
>>>> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
>>>>
>>>> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
>>>> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>> Dan
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
>>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
>>>> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
>>>> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
>>>> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
>>>> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
>>>> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
>>>> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
>>>>
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Bhargav Golla <bh...@gmail.com>.
Your plan looks good. Will look forward to working on it after GSoC.
Bhargav Golla
Developer. Freelancer.
B.E (Hons.) Computer Science
BITS-Pilani
Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
| Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
On Thu, Sep 5, 2013 at 7:42 PM, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
> Hi Bhargav,
> Thanks for the offer. Yeah, the priority is medium-ish, so could well fit
> in once GSoC is done. I'll do some spikes to see how the work might break
> out.
>
> Right now my thoughts are:
> 1. strip the app back to have no CSS, ie work on the bare "DOM"
> 2. add in the full bootstrap CSS/JS.
> 3. work through the Wicket components one by one, reworking to use
> bootstrap. The integration that Cuneyt flagged [1] looks promising. Some
> of those more challenging refactorings would be to remove wicket-select2
> (for dropdown/choices/autocomplete) and use their type-ahead, the date/time
> picker (I do like the one we have currently), the menu rendering, and the
> table sorting. Hopefully the others will be easier, and might be areas
> where you could contribute.
>
> Cheers
> Dan
>
> [1] https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
>
>
>
>
>
> On 3 September 2013 18:59, Bhargav Golla <bh...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
> > If we are concentrating on viewers, it would definitely be a good idea to
> > incorporate Bootstrap into Wicket Viewer. If we the priority of this is
> not
> > very high, I can offer to take it sometime post GSoC along with some help
> > with Bootstrap.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Bhargav Golla
> > Developer. Freelancer.
> > B.E (Hons.) Computer Science
> > BITS-Pilani
> > Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
> > LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
> > | Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
> >
> >
> > On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Dan Haywood
> > <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
> >
> > > Hi folks,
> > >
> > > A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the
> CSS
> > in
> > > Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by
> the
> > > way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of
> > the
> > > whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
> > >
> > > At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts
> [2,3,4,5],
> > I
> > > introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
> > > layout.
> > >
> > > But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer
> to
> > > adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
> > LESS,
> > > a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
> > customization
> > > page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
> > >
> > > So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
> > > would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
> > >
> > > Cheers
> > > Dan
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> > > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> > > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> > > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> > > [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> > > [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> > > [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> > > [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> > > [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> > > [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
> > >
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>.
Hi Bhargav,
Thanks for the offer. Yeah, the priority is medium-ish, so could well fit
in once GSoC is done. I'll do some spikes to see how the work might break
out.
Right now my thoughts are:
1. strip the app back to have no CSS, ie work on the bare "DOM"
2. add in the full bootstrap CSS/JS.
3. work through the Wicket components one by one, reworking to use
bootstrap. The integration that Cuneyt flagged [1] looks promising. Some
of those more challenging refactorings would be to remove wicket-select2
(for dropdown/choices/autocomplete) and use their type-ahead, the date/time
picker (I do like the one we have currently), the menu rendering, and the
table sorting. Hopefully the others will be easier, and might be areas
where you could contribute.
Cheers
Dan
[1] https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
On 3 September 2013 18:59, Bhargav Golla <bh...@gmail.com> wrote:
> If we are concentrating on viewers, it would definitely be a good idea to
> incorporate Bootstrap into Wicket Viewer. If we the priority of this is not
> very high, I can offer to take it sometime post GSoC along with some help
> with Bootstrap.
>
> Regards
>
> Bhargav Golla
> Developer. Freelancer.
> B.E (Hons.) Computer Science
> BITS-Pilani
> Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
> LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
> | Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
>
>
> On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Dan Haywood
> <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the CSS
> in
> > Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by the
> > way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of
> the
> > whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
> >
> > At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts [2,3,4,5],
> I
> > introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
> > layout.
> >
> > But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer to
> > adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
> LESS,
> > a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
> customization
> > page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
> >
> > So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
> > would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> > [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> > [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> > [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> > [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> > [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> > [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Bhargav Golla <bh...@gmail.com>.
If we are concentrating on viewers, it would definitely be a good idea to
incorporate Bootstrap into Wicket Viewer. If we the priority of this is not
very high, I can offer to take it sometime post GSoC along with some help
with Bootstrap.
Regards
Bhargav Golla
Developer. Freelancer.
B.E (Hons.) Computer Science
BITS-Pilani
Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
| Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Dan Haywood
<da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the CSS in
> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by the
> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of the
> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
>
> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts [2,3,4,5], I
> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
> layout.
>
> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer to
> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports LESS,
> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's customization
> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
>
> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
>
> Cheers
> Dan
>
>
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>.
HI Oscar,
I doubt very much that this would be done in time for then. I need to
spend some time stabilizing Estatio for our own forthcoming release.
I do hope to spend some time spiking this over the next couple of weeks.
And there is definitely a chance it would be implemented by year end...
but not by end of Oct.
Cheers
Dan
On 3 September 2013 11:36, GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou
<o....@gesconsultor.com>wrote:
> Hi, Dan.
>
> What would be your best estimate? We should release at mid-october (end of
> october at most).
>
> Our core expertise is not on UI technologies, but perhaps you could
> consider we can help if the timeline is ok.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Oscar
>
>
>
> El 03/09/2013, a las 12:08, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>
> escribió:
>
> > Thanks for these thoughts, Oscar.
> >
> > It would be a big plus if we could improve the Wicket viewer to the point
> > that you felt you could abandon your custom viewer; that way we are all
> (in
> > the community) pooling our collective development efforts. It might also
> > make less urgent some of the other tickets you've raised recently
> regarding
> > establishing a formal API for such custom viewers (something I consider
> to
> > be a bigger piece of work than switching to using bootstrap).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 September 2013 10:54, GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou
> > <o....@gesconsultor.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> +1 to the refactoring.
> >>
> >> Currently we are forced to maintain our current "custom viewer", but
> with
> >> a more "easily customized" viewer we could migrate it.
> >>
> >> I think that the "automatic" viewer generation is the most valued
> feature
> >> of the Isis framework, but the current implementation is not "as
> flexible
> >> as it's expected" for customizations.
> >> I guess it would gain a lot of supporters between leads and prospects
> that
> >> can consider Apache Isis in the near future.
> >>
> >> It can be a big driver for adoption.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Oscar
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> El 03/09/2013, a las 09:12, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>
> >> escribió:
> >>
> >>> Hi Cuneyt,
> >>> good to hear you've had good experiences going this way. Yes, that
> does
> >>> like an existing integration that would be well worth considering.
> >>>
> >>> I guess for the moment I'm canvassing whether bootstrappifying is in
> >> itself
> >>> a good idea (rather than how to go about doing this).
> >>>
> >>> Thx
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3 September 2013 07:48, Cuneyt Ozen <cu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Dan,
> >>>>
> >>>> How about wicket-bootstrap <
> >> https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> >>>>> ?
> >>>> I have been doing fair amount of work with it lately. And I am pretty
> >> much
> >>>> contented with it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Cuneyt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dan Haywood <
> >> dan@haywood-associates.co.uk
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the
> >> CSS
> >>>> in
> >>>>> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by
> >> the
> >>>>> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>>> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts
> >> [2,3,4,5],
> >>>> I
> >>>>> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the
> grid
> >>>>> layout.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer
> >> to
> >>>>> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
> >>>> LESS,
> >>>>> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
> >>>> customization
> >>>>> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg
> [9,10].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing?
> (And,
> >>>>> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Dan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> >>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> >>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> >>>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> >>>>> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> >>>>> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> >>>>> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> >>>>> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> >>>>> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> >>>>> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Ezequiel Celiz <el...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dan
Good to hear about the interest.
As Oscar said, I think the project is going up, if you implement a more
flexible way to customize the viewer.
By the way, I visited the links you suggested and I found a very good
option to use Bootstrap.
The themes look very cute ;-)
Please tell us when you're starting with the idea, to help where we can.
regards
2013/9/3 GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou <o....@gesconsultor.com>
> Hi, Dan.
>
> What would be your best estimate? We should release at mid-october (end of
> october at most).
>
> Our core expertise is not on UI technologies, but perhaps you could
> consider we can help if the timeline is ok.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Oscar
>
>
>
> El 03/09/2013, a las 12:08, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>
> escribió:
>
> > Thanks for these thoughts, Oscar.
> >
> > It would be a big plus if we could improve the Wicket viewer to the point
> > that you felt you could abandon your custom viewer; that way we are all
> (in
> > the community) pooling our collective development efforts. It might also
> > make less urgent some of the other tickets you've raised recently
> regarding
> > establishing a formal API for such custom viewers (something I consider
> to
> > be a bigger piece of work than switching to using bootstrap).
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 September 2013 10:54, GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou
> > <o....@gesconsultor.com>wrote:
> >
> >>
> >> +1 to the refactoring.
> >>
> >> Currently we are forced to maintain our current "custom viewer", but
> with
> >> a more "easily customized" viewer we could migrate it.
> >>
> >> I think that the "automatic" viewer generation is the most valued
> feature
> >> of the Isis framework, but the current implementation is not "as
> flexible
> >> as it's expected" for customizations.
> >> I guess it would gain a lot of supporters between leads and prospects
> that
> >> can consider Apache Isis in the near future.
> >>
> >> It can be a big driver for adoption.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >>
> >> Oscar
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> El 03/09/2013, a las 09:12, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>
> >> escribió:
> >>
> >>> Hi Cuneyt,
> >>> good to hear you've had good experiences going this way. Yes, that
> does
> >>> like an existing integration that would be well worth considering.
> >>>
> >>> I guess for the moment I'm canvassing whether bootstrappifying is in
> >> itself
> >>> a good idea (rather than how to go about doing this).
> >>>
> >>> Thx
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On 3 September 2013 07:48, Cuneyt Ozen <cu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Hi Dan,
> >>>>
> >>>> How about wicket-bootstrap <
> >> https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> >>>>> ?
> >>>> I have been doing fair amount of work with it lately. And I am pretty
> >> much
> >>>> contented with it.
> >>>>
> >>>> Cheers,
> >>>> Cuneyt
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dan Haywood <
> >> dan@haywood-associates.co.uk
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>>> Hi folks,
> >>>>>
> >>>>> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the
> >> CSS
> >>>> in
> >>>>> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by
> >> the
> >>>>> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel
> of
> >>>> the
> >>>>> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts
> >> [2,3,4,5],
> >>>> I
> >>>>> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the
> grid
> >>>>> layout.
> >>>>>
> >>>>> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer
> >> to
> >>>>> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
> >>>> LESS,
> >>>>> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
> >>>> customization
> >>>>> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg
> [9,10].
> >>>>>
> >>>>> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing?
> (And,
> >>>>> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
> >>>>>
> >>>>> Cheers
> >>>>> Dan
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>>
> >>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> >>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> >>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> >>>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> >>>>> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> >>>>> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> >>>>> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> >>>>> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> >>>>> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> >>>>> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
> >>>>>
> >>>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou <o....@gesconsultor.com>.
Hi, Dan.
What would be your best estimate? We should release at mid-october (end of october at most).
Our core expertise is not on UI technologies, but perhaps you could consider we can help if the timeline is ok.
Thanks,
Oscar
El 03/09/2013, a las 12:08, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk> escribió:
> Thanks for these thoughts, Oscar.
>
> It would be a big plus if we could improve the Wicket viewer to the point
> that you felt you could abandon your custom viewer; that way we are all (in
> the community) pooling our collective development efforts. It might also
> make less urgent some of the other tickets you've raised recently regarding
> establishing a formal API for such custom viewers (something I consider to
> be a bigger piece of work than switching to using bootstrap).
>
> Cheers
> Dan
>
>
>
>
> On 3 September 2013 10:54, GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou
> <o....@gesconsultor.com>wrote:
>
>>
>> +1 to the refactoring.
>>
>> Currently we are forced to maintain our current "custom viewer", but with
>> a more "easily customized" viewer we could migrate it.
>>
>> I think that the "automatic" viewer generation is the most valued feature
>> of the Isis framework, but the current implementation is not "as flexible
>> as it's expected" for customizations.
>> I guess it would gain a lot of supporters between leads and prospects that
>> can consider Apache Isis in the near future.
>>
>> It can be a big driver for adoption.
>>
>> Regards,
>>
>> Oscar
>>
>>
>>
>> El 03/09/2013, a las 09:12, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>
>> escribió:
>>
>>> Hi Cuneyt,
>>> good to hear you've had good experiences going this way. Yes, that does
>>> like an existing integration that would be well worth considering.
>>>
>>> I guess for the moment I'm canvassing whether bootstrappifying is in
>> itself
>>> a good idea (rather than how to go about doing this).
>>>
>>> Thx
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 3 September 2013 07:48, Cuneyt Ozen <cu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Dan,
>>>>
>>>> How about wicket-bootstrap <
>> https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
>>>>> ?
>>>> I have been doing fair amount of work with it lately. And I am pretty
>> much
>>>> contented with it.
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Cuneyt
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dan Haywood <
>> dan@haywood-associates.co.uk
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi folks,
>>>>>
>>>>> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the
>> CSS
>>>> in
>>>>> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by
>> the
>>>>> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of
>>>> the
>>>>> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
>>>>>
>>>>> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts
>> [2,3,4,5],
>>>> I
>>>>> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
>>>>> layout.
>>>>>
>>>>> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer
>> to
>>>>> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
>>>> LESS,
>>>>> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
>>>> customization
>>>>> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
>>>>>
>>>>> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
>>>>> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
>>>>>
>>>>> Cheers
>>>>> Dan
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
>>>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
>>>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
>>>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
>>>>> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
>>>>> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
>>>>> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
>>>>> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
>>>>> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
>>>>> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
>>>>>
>>>>
>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>.
Thanks for these thoughts, Oscar.
It would be a big plus if we could improve the Wicket viewer to the point
that you felt you could abandon your custom viewer; that way we are all (in
the community) pooling our collective development efforts. It might also
make less urgent some of the other tickets you've raised recently regarding
establishing a formal API for such custom viewers (something I consider to
be a bigger piece of work than switching to using bootstrap).
Cheers
Dan
On 3 September 2013 10:54, GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou
<o....@gesconsultor.com>wrote:
>
> +1 to the refactoring.
>
> Currently we are forced to maintain our current "custom viewer", but with
> a more "easily customized" viewer we could migrate it.
>
> I think that the "automatic" viewer generation is the most valued feature
> of the Isis framework, but the current implementation is not "as flexible
> as it's expected" for customizations.
> I guess it would gain a lot of supporters between leads and prospects that
> can consider Apache Isis in the near future.
>
> It can be a big driver for adoption.
>
> Regards,
>
> Oscar
>
>
>
> El 03/09/2013, a las 09:12, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>
> escribió:
>
> > Hi Cuneyt,
> > good to hear you've had good experiences going this way. Yes, that does
> > like an existing integration that would be well worth considering.
> >
> > I guess for the moment I'm canvassing whether bootstrappifying is in
> itself
> > a good idea (rather than how to go about doing this).
> >
> > Thx
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > On 3 September 2013 07:48, Cuneyt Ozen <cu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> >
> >> Hi Dan,
> >>
> >> How about wicket-bootstrap <
> https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> >>> ?
> >> I have been doing fair amount of work with it lately. And I am pretty
> much
> >> contented with it.
> >>
> >> Cheers,
> >> Cuneyt
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dan Haywood <
> dan@haywood-associates.co.uk
> >>> wrote:
> >>
> >>> Hi folks,
> >>>
> >>> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the
> CSS
> >> in
> >>> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by
> the
> >>> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of
> >> the
> >>> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
> >>>
> >>> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts
> [2,3,4,5],
> >> I
> >>> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
> >>> layout.
> >>>
> >>> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer
> to
> >>> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
> >> LESS,
> >>> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
> >> customization
> >>> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
> >>>
> >>> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
> >>> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
> >>>
> >>> Cheers
> >>> Dan
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> >>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> >>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> >>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> >>> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> >>> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> >>> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> >>> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> >>> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> >>> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
> >>>
> >>
>
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by GESCONSULTOR - Óscar Bou <o....@gesconsultor.com>.
+1 to the refactoring.
Currently we are forced to maintain our current "custom viewer", but with a more "easily customized" viewer we could migrate it.
I think that the "automatic" viewer generation is the most valued feature of the Isis framework, but the current implementation is not "as flexible as it's expected" for customizations.
I guess it would gain a lot of supporters between leads and prospects that can consider Apache Isis in the near future.
It can be a big driver for adoption.
Regards,
Oscar
El 03/09/2013, a las 09:12, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk> escribió:
> Hi Cuneyt,
> good to hear you've had good experiences going this way. Yes, that does
> like an existing integration that would be well worth considering.
>
> I guess for the moment I'm canvassing whether bootstrappifying is in itself
> a good idea (rather than how to go about doing this).
>
> Thx
> Dan
>
>
>
> On 3 September 2013 07:48, Cuneyt Ozen <cu...@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> Hi Dan,
>>
>> How about wicket-bootstrap <https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
>>> ?
>> I have been doing fair amount of work with it lately. And I am pretty much
>> contented with it.
>>
>> Cheers,
>> Cuneyt
>>
>>
>>
>> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dan Haywood <dan@haywood-associates.co.uk
>>> wrote:
>>
>>> Hi folks,
>>>
>>> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the CSS
>> in
>>> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by the
>>> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of
>> the
>>> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
>>>
>>> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts [2,3,4,5],
>> I
>>> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
>>> layout.
>>>
>>> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer to
>>> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
>> LESS,
>>> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
>> customization
>>> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
>>>
>>> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
>>> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
>>>
>>> Cheers
>>> Dan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
>>> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
>>> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
>>> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
>>> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
>>> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
>>> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
>>> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
>>> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
>>> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
>>>
>>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>.
Hi Cuneyt,
good to hear you've had good experiences going this way. Yes, that does
like an existing integration that would be well worth considering.
I guess for the moment I'm canvassing whether bootstrappifying is in itself
a good idea (rather than how to go about doing this).
Thx
Dan
On 3 September 2013 07:48, Cuneyt Ozen <cu...@gmail.com> wrote:
> Hi Dan,
>
> How about wicket-bootstrap <https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap
> >?
> I have been doing fair amount of work with it lately. And I am pretty much
> contented with it.
>
> Cheers,
> Cuneyt
>
>
>
> On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dan Haywood <dan@haywood-associates.co.uk
> >wrote:
>
> > Hi folks,
> >
> > A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the CSS
> in
> > Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by the
> > way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of
> the
> > whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
> >
> > At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts [2,3,4,5],
> I
> > introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
> > layout.
> >
> > But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer to
> > adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports
> LESS,
> > a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's
> customization
> > page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
> >
> > So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
> > would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
> >
> > Cheers
> > Dan
> >
> >
> >
> > [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> > [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> > [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> > [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> > [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> > [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> > [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> > [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> > [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> > [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
> >
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Cuneyt Ozen <cu...@gmail.com>.
Hi Dan,
How about wicket-bootstrap <https://github.com/l0rdn1kk0n/wicket-bootstrap>?
I have been doing fair amount of work with it lately. And I am pretty much
contented with it.
Cheers,
Cuneyt
On Mon, Sep 2, 2013 at 9:43 PM, Dan Haywood <da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the CSS in
> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by the
> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of the
> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
>
> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts [2,3,4,5], I
> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
> layout.
>
> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer to
> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports LESS,
> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's customization
> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
>
> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
>
> Cheers
> Dan
>
>
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
>
Re: [DISCUSSION] Should we refactor the Wicket viewer to use Bootstrap?
Posted by Bhargav Golla <bh...@gmail.com>.
If we are concentrating on viewers, it would definitely be a good idea to
incorporate Bootstrap into Wicket Viewer. If we the priority of this is not
very high, I can offer to take it sometime post GSoC along with some help
with Bootstrap.
Regards
Bhargav Golla
Developer. Freelancer.
B.E (Hons.) Computer Science
BITS-Pilani
Github <http://www.github.com/bhargavgolla> |
LinkedIN<http://www.linkedin.com/in/bhargavgolla>
| Website <http://www.bhargavgolla.com/>
On Tue, Sep 3, 2013 at 12:13 AM, Dan Haywood
<da...@haywood-associates.co.uk>wrote:
> Hi folks,
>
> A few days back [1] Ezequiel asked a question about how to style the CSS in
> Wicket viewer, and Oscar provided a few pointers (thanks for that, by the
> way...). Even so, my suspicion is that restyling the look and feel of the
> whole app is a lot more work than it ought to.
>
> At the same time, in the recent work I did on dynamic layouts [2,3,4,5], I
> introduced a dependency on the Bootstrap library [6], just for the grid
> layout.
>
> But, it seems to me that we could probably refactor the Wicket viewer to
> adopt all of the Bootstrap components. Given that Bootstrap supports LESS,
> a custom skin could be implemented just by using Bootstrap's customization
> page [8]. Or, there are lots of pre-built themes out there eg [9,10].
>
> So, what do people think? Is this a piece of work worth doing? (And,
> would anyone be interested in helping out if so... :-)
>
> Cheers
> Dan
>
>
>
> [1] http://markmail.org/message/tdidddjuher6yqac
> [2] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-468
> [3] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-469
> [4] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-470
> [5] https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ISIS-475
> [6] http://getbootstrap.com/
> [7] http://getbootstrap.com/css/#grid
> [8] http://getbootstrap.com/customize/
> [9] http://bootswatch.com/
> [10] https://wrapbootstrap.com/
>