tapestry joining jakarta

[Stephen Haberman <st...@chase3000.com>]

Hey,

I've been wading through the reorg list and noticed that the main
developer for Tapestry (http://tapestry.sf.net), Howard Ship, sent in a
proposal for Tapestry to join Apache. It seemed to get a good reception
and from what I can decipher, he was directed to start up a project in
the brand-spanking-new incubator to see how things go. (others please
correct me if I'm wrong).

In the proposal he acknowledges that Tapestry overlaps Turbine but is a
thinner, more presentation-only framework that lets users do something
like:

<input jwcid="foo" />

in HTML and then somehow talk to "foo" from action-type Java code.

It also acknowledges that it's popular to use Tapestry as presentation
only and use Turbine services (he specifically mentions Torque) to do
service/business-logic stuff.

So, I dunno, what's the general reaction towards having yet another web
framework in Jakarta?

I was thinking instead of turning him away, what if we asked Tapestry to
merge in with the t3/t4/avalon/summit effort in that they could have
their own template/view layer that instead of being Velocity, would be
their puesdo-HTML markup, and then talks to a Fulcrum-style service to
do their component management logic, kind of like the Intake model of
doing things?

I think the integration would be awful nice for both projects. Plus it
would provide some good exposure/users/developers for the summit effort.

- Stephe


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