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Security framework - Download
Hi,
as promised, now the code of my Security Framework for Turbine (and a short
readme file) can be downloaded from the following page:
http://digilander.iol.it/jacop/index.html
I hope to hear your impressions!!!
Thanks,
Jacopo
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Re: Contributing documentation
Posted by Matthew Forder <fo...@ams.neth.seagate.com>.
Jason,
I think that idea of writing user manual is excellent...I know a lot of people how
use Turbine are ninja-java-masters who can figure it out by reading the source
code...but for the rest of us humans it's all a bit much at first and a really
well written manual would certainly help. In fact I think it's an absolute must if
Turbine wants to enjoy large scale adoption by web-developers at large.
Speaking from my own experience, I'd love to see a good overview/introduction
document as I spent about 6 weeks just getting to grips with the whole framework
and figuring out where to start before I could really even begin to produce
anything usefull. Other things that I think would be an excellent help is a
"cookbook" type of document (similar to the O'Reilly cookbooks), and maybe a
document that focuses on how best to go about designing your applications so that
they work well with the Turbine framework.
Anway, that's my opinion...for what's worth =:o)
Matt
Jason Kary wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago, I posted the beginnings of a user manual for
> Torque. I didn't hear back anyone on the list. I am not sure if the
> documentation is useful and I don't want to spend a lot of time on it if
> it isn't.
>
> Can people give me a feel for:
>
> 1) Is it worth doing? (There is some docs already, however it's a bit
> scattered.)
> 2) Any idea of what 'stuff' people want to see convered? I am seeing
> questions about torque standalone, complex criterias, sequence generation.
>
> Thanks
> Jason Kary
>
> Daniel Rall wrote:
>
> >Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com> writes:
> >
> >>Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
> >>contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
> >>documentation need the most attention?
> >>
> >
> >Hi Rodney. Watching the list for repeat questions, then answering
> >those in xdocs is a great method of contributing to the documentation
> >effort. Check out the jakarta-site2 module from CVS for the core
> >Jakarta xdocs.
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Re: Contributing documentation
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@zenplex.com>.
On 10/31/01 9:21 AM, "Jason Kary" <jk...@cisco.com> wrote:
> A couple of weeks ago, I posted the beginnings of a user manual for
> Torque. I didn't hear back anyone on the list. I am not sure if the
> documentation is useful and I don't want to spend a lot of time on it if
> it isn't.
>
> Can people give me a feel for:
>
> 1) Is it worth doing?
Yes!
(There is some docs already, however it's a bit
scattered.)
Yes, it is.
> 2) Any idea of what 'stuff' people want to see convered? I am seeing
> questions about torque standalone, complex criterias, sequence generation.
Everything is being funneled into the jakarta-turbine-torque repository at
the moment. Eventually this will be the sole version of torque that will be
used by all versions of turbine as maintaining multiple versions is
becoming a nightmare.
You move/convert the following files from the jakarta-turbine-2/xdocs
directory:
db-adapters.xml
howto/criteria-howto.xml
howto/mssql-howto.xml
howto/oracle-howto.xm
howto/peers-howto.xml
howto/postgres-howto.xml
howto/sybase-howto.xml
In the jakarta-turbine-torque/xdocs repository you will already see:
guide-developer.xml (was torque-howto.xml in turbine2 repo)
schema-reference.xml (was torque-schema-ref in turbine2 repo)
That would be a start if you want to give it a try.
For the user guide which I imagine most people would be interested in a good
place to start would be how to take your applications object model and turn
it into the corresponding datamodel (torque schema as we've been calling it,
but I think datamodel descriptor is more appropriate). Eventually torque
will have a facility using BCEL (byte code engineering lib) that will take
an object model, figure out all the connections and create a datamodel
descriptor for you.
Feel free to take a crack at whatever is there, there's a lot. Feel free to
ask questions.
> Thanks
> Jason Kary
>
>
> Daniel Rall wrote:
>
>> Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com> writes:
>>
>>> Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
>>> contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
>>> documentation need the most attention?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Rodney. Watching the list for repeat questions, then answering
>> those in xdocs is a great method of contributing to the documentation
>> effort. Check out the jakarta-site2 module from CVS for the core
>> Jakarta xdocs.
>>
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Re: Contributing documentation
Posted by Jason Kary <jk...@cisco.com>.
Hi Hugh,
Thanks for the offer. We should talk about the splitting some sections
up... etc. This week my work has swamped me, but I will have time next
week to work on the manual. :)
Take Care
Jason Kary
On Thu, 2001-11-01 at 02:15, Hugh Brien wrote:
> I would be willing to contribute to a documentation effort. I was thinking
> I could help with Torque docs. I just finished creating a schema of
> classes. I am using them in conjuction with Jetspeed.
> r,
> Hugh
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Jason van Zyl" <jv...@zenplex.com>
> To: "Turbine Users List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
> Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:46 AM
> Subject: Re: Contributing documentation
>
>
> > On 10/31/01 9:21 AM, "Jason Kary" <jk...@cisco.com> wrote:
> >
> >
> > > 2) Any idea of what 'stuff' people want to see convered? I am seeing
> > > questions about torque standalone, complex criterias, sequence
> generation.
> >
> > I've just added some code to allow torque to run in stand-alone cleanly
> > without the use of any classes in Turbine this could definitely be
> > documented if you want to give it a try.
> >
> > > Thanks
> > > Jason Kary
> > >
> > >
> > > Daniel Rall wrote:
> > >
> > >> Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com> writes:
> > >>
> > >>> Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
> > >>> contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
> > >>> documentation need the most attention?
> > >>>
> > >>
> > >> Hi Rodney. Watching the list for repeat questions, then answering
> > >> those in xdocs is a great method of contributing to the documentation
> > >> effort. Check out the jakarta-site2 module from CVS for the core
> > >> Jakarta xdocs.
> > >>
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Re: Contributing documentation
Posted by Hugh Brien <hp...@home.com>.
I would be willing to contribute to a documentation effort. I was thinking
I could help with Torque docs. I just finished creating a schema of
classes. I am using them in conjuction with Jetspeed.
r,
Hugh
----- Original Message -----
From: "Jason van Zyl" <jv...@zenplex.com>
To: "Turbine Users List" <tu...@jakarta.apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, October 31, 2001 6:46 AM
Subject: Re: Contributing documentation
> On 10/31/01 9:21 AM, "Jason Kary" <jk...@cisco.com> wrote:
>
>
> > 2) Any idea of what 'stuff' people want to see convered? I am seeing
> > questions about torque standalone, complex criterias, sequence
generation.
>
> I've just added some code to allow torque to run in stand-alone cleanly
> without the use of any classes in Turbine this could definitely be
> documented if you want to give it a try.
>
> > Thanks
> > Jason Kary
> >
> >
> > Daniel Rall wrote:
> >
> >> Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com> writes:
> >>
> >>> Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
> >>> contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
> >>> documentation need the most attention?
> >>>
> >>
> >> Hi Rodney. Watching the list for repeat questions, then answering
> >> those in xdocs is a great method of contributing to the documentation
> >> effort. Check out the jakarta-site2 module from CVS for the core
> >> Jakarta xdocs.
> >>
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> Jason van Zyl
>
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Re: Contributing documentation
Posted by Jason van Zyl <jv...@zenplex.com>.
On 10/31/01 9:21 AM, "Jason Kary" <jk...@cisco.com> wrote:
> 2) Any idea of what 'stuff' people want to see convered? I am seeing
> questions about torque standalone, complex criterias, sequence generation.
I've just added some code to allow torque to run in stand-alone cleanly
without the use of any classes in Turbine this could definitely be
documented if you want to give it a try.
> Thanks
> Jason Kary
>
>
> Daniel Rall wrote:
>
>> Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com> writes:
>>
>>> Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
>>> contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
>>> documentation need the most attention?
>>>
>>
>> Hi Rodney. Watching the list for repeat questions, then answering
>> those in xdocs is a great method of contributing to the documentation
>> effort. Check out the jakarta-site2 module from CVS for the core
>> Jakarta xdocs.
>>
>> --
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http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine
http://jakarta.apache.org/velocity
http://jakarta.apache.org/alexandria
http://jakarta.apache.org/commons
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Re: Contributing documentation
Posted by Jason Kary <jk...@cisco.com>.
A couple of weeks ago, I posted the beginnings of a user manual for
Torque. I didn't hear back anyone on the list. I am not sure if the
documentation is useful and I don't want to spend a lot of time on it if
it isn't.
Can people give me a feel for:
1) Is it worth doing? (There is some docs already, however it's a bit
scattered.)
2) Any idea of what 'stuff' people want to see convered? I am seeing
questions about torque standalone, complex criterias, sequence generation.
Thanks
Jason Kary
Daniel Rall wrote:
>Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com> writes:
>
>>Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
>>contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
>>documentation need the most attention?
>>
>
>Hi Rodney. Watching the list for repeat questions, then answering
>those in xdocs is a great method of contributing to the documentation
>effort. Check out the jakarta-site2 module from CVS for the core
>Jakarta xdocs.
>
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Re: Contributing documentation
Posted by Daniel Rall <dl...@finemaltcoding.com>.
Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com> writes:
> Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
> contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
> documentation need the most attention?
Hi Rodney. Watching the list for repeat questions, then answering
those in xdocs is a great method of contributing to the documentation
effort. Check out the jakarta-site2 module from CVS for the core
Jakarta xdocs.
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Contributing documentation
Posted by Rodney Schneider <ro...@bicamera.com>.
Hi all,
I am just about to commence work on a new web based project and I have
decided to use Turbine for the first time in a production environment.
I am just about to get started and I would like to contribute to Turbine's
documentation while I am learning more about the way the whole framework
fits together. I was reading through the TODO page...
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/todo.html
... and it says to consult the Turbine Documentation Project page for
details on how to contribute documentation, but the URL...
http://jakarta.apache.org/turbine/turbine-2/turbine-documentation-project.html
... returns a 404 Not Found.
Could someone please point me in the right direction? Perhaps I could
contribute the beginnings of a Turbine tutorial? What areas of the
documentation need the most attention?
Thanks,
-- Rodney
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