Graduation, and SoC

[Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>]

Hi,

It looks like I may finally get to play with Solr in some project of mine.  I checked the Wiki and the Incubator status page for Solr, and the whole thing looks quite "feature-complete".  Are there plans to graduate from the Incubator?  Any idea of the time frame for that?

I also saw the two student proposals for using Solr and Lucene to index Apache mailing lists.  That project should already have started.  Where is the code for that going to go?  I'd like to see how that's going.

Thanks,
Otis

Re: Graduation, and SoC

[Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>]

: Ah, that's too bad.  Is it too late for it now?

well, it's never too late for people to participate in an Open Source
project :) ... but according to the SoC website, it is too late to get
Google to sponser it.



-Hoss

Re: Graduation, and SoC

[Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>]

Ah, that's too bad.  Is it too late for it now?

Otis

----- Original Message ----
From: Yonik Seeley <ys...@gmail.com>
To: solr-user@lucene.apache.org
Cc: Otis Gospodnetic <ot...@yahoo.com>
Sent: Wednesday, May 31, 2006 1:11:21 PM
Subject: Re: Graduation, and SoC

On 5/31/06, Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
> : I also saw the two student proposals for using Solr and Lucene to index
> : Apache mailing lists.  That project should already have started.  Where
> : is the code for that going to go?  I'd like to see how that's going.
>
> I had no idea there had been any student proposals for that project ...
> they aren't on the list of approved projects on Google's site, so i'm
> guessing they sliped through the cracks.
>
> Doug, Yonik: you guys were the perspective mentors right, did you know
> some students had applied?

Indeed, it slipped through the cracks.  I had gone through about half
of the proposals on the Google site, but some things came up and I
didn't get back to it until too late.  Only the GData project was
approved.

-Yonik

Re: Graduation, and SoC

[Yonik Seeley <ys...@gmail.com>]

On 5/31/06, Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org> wrote:
> : I also saw the two student proposals for using Solr and Lucene to index
> : Apache mailing lists.  That project should already have started.  Where
> : is the code for that going to go?  I'd like to see how that's going.
>
> I had no idea there had been any student proposals for that project ...
> they aren't on the list of approved projects on Google's site, so i'm
> guessing they sliped through the cracks.
>
> Doug, Yonik: you guys were the perspective mentors right, did you know
> some students had applied?

Indeed, it slipped through the cracks.  I had gone through about half
of the proposals on the Google site, but some things came up and I
didn't get back to it until too late.  Only the GData project was
approved.

-Yonik

Re: Graduation, and SoC

[Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>]

: > Hence, i'm currently not pursuing any new features ... just trying to
: > improve javadocs so prospective committers have a could place to start
: > when submitting patches.

: I don't think you should do this.
: when i initially posted about doing this kind of thing (to encourage
: others to speak up) It was shot down by Yoav
: who quite rightly said that dampening a project is not the right way
: of getting a community started.

I know, I remember ... your argument didn't make a lot of sense to me at
the time, and then i warmed to it, and then i shrugged it off and then i
warmed to it again.

I don't think my focusing on javadocs at the moment is damping the project
... if there were any cool features i really wanted to actively pursue, i
would -- but at this point the lack of javadocs just kind of bugs me and
i'd like to remedy it.  Independent of anyone else working on Solr, just
the exercise of doing some of the simple interfaces last weekend made me
aware of some little things that suprised me, and i'd like to get those
things documented so they don't suprise me (or anyone else) again later.

The next big thing i'd really like to tackle is...
   http://wiki.apache.org/solr/MakeSolrMoreSelfService
...improving the javadocs is just a really good first step, with the added
bonus that it lowers the bar other people to start writing their own Solr
plugins, or tinkering with the internals (and hopefully submitting
patches).






-Hoss

Re: Graduation, and SoC

[Ian Holsman <li...@holsman.net>]

On 01/06/2006, at 3:01 AM, Chris Hostetter wrote:

>
> : It looks like I may finally get to play with Solr in some project of
> : mine.  I checked the Wiki and the Incubator status page for Solr,  
> and
> : the whole thing looks quite "feature-complete".  Are there plans to
> : graduate from the Incubator?  Any idea of the time frame for that?
>
> I don't really know a lot abou the incubator process ... but my
> understanding is that some people would like to see a more diverse  
> set of
> committers (ie: more people who don't work at CNET) before discussing
> graduation.
>
> Hence, i'm currently not pursuing any new features ... just trying to
> improve javadocs so prospective committers have a could place to start
> when submitting patches.
>

my 2c's

I don't think you should do this.
when i initially posted about doing this kind of thing (to encourage  
others to speak up) It was shot down by Yoav
who quite rightly said that dampening a project is not the right way  
of getting a community started.

>
>
> -Hoss
>

Re: Graduation, and SoC

[Chris Hostetter <ho...@fucit.org>]

: It looks like I may finally get to play with Solr in some project of
: mine.  I checked the Wiki and the Incubator status page for Solr, and
: the whole thing looks quite "feature-complete".  Are there plans to
: graduate from the Incubator?  Any idea of the time frame for that?

I don't really know a lot abou the incubator process ... but my
understanding is that some people would like to see a more diverse set of
committers (ie: more people who don't work at CNET) before discussing
graduation.

Hence, i'm currently not pursuing any new features ... just trying to
improve javadocs so prospective committers have a could place to start
when submitting patches.

: I also saw the two student proposals for using Solr and Lucene to index
: Apache mailing lists.  That project should already have started.  Where
: is the code for that going to go?  I'd like to see how that's going.

I had no idea there had been any student proposals for that project ...
they aren't on the list of approved projects on Google's site, so i'm
guessing they sliped through the cracks.

Doug, Yonik: you guys were the perspective mentors right, did you know
some students had applied?



-Hoss