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Posted to users@activemq.apache.org by "Steigerwald, Aaron" <as...@brandesassociates.com.INVALID> on 2024/07/10 18:53:23 UTC

Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Hello,

Does the Artemis In-VM acceptor and/or JMS client support passing SSL/TLS certificate credentials for use with queue security? I'm running Artemis 2.31.2 with an embedded Camel client. I get the following warnings and errors in the log:

2024-07-10 15:31:15,458 WARN  [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server] AMQ222216: Security problem while authenticating: AMQ229031: Unable to validate user from invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN: unavailable

2024-07-10 15:31:20,478 ERROR [org.apache.camel.component.jms.DefaultJmsMessageListenerContainer] Could not refresh JMS Connection for destination 'my.queue.name' - retrying using FixedBackOff{interval=5000, currentAttempts=0, maxAttempts=unlimited}. Cause: AMQ229031: Unable to validate user from invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN: unavailable

This is the relevant configuration info:

From broker.xml:

         <acceptor name="in-vm">
            vm://0
            sslEnabled=true;
            keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
            keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
            trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
            trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
            enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
            needClientAuth=true;
            supportAdvisory=false;
            suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
         </acceptor>

From camelApplicationContext.xml:

   <bean id="jmsConnectionFactoryLocal"
         class="org.apache.activemq.artemis.jms.client.ActiveMQConnectionFactory">
      <property name="brokerURL" value="vm://0?sslEnabled=true;keyStorePath=${camel.client.keyStore.uri};keyStorePassword=${camel.client.keyStorePassword};trustStorePath=${camel.client.trustStore.uri};trustStorePassword=${camel.client.trustStorePassword};enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2"/>
   </bean>

Everything works as expected using Netty/TCP acceptors and clients with SSL parameters.

It seems more appropriate to use an In-VM acceptor for embedded clients, especially for performance.

I found the following bug report- https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1807980, which led me to this project's solution- https://github.com/candlepin/candlepin/pull/2680. Based on my limited understanding of what they did, it seems like Artemis does not support passing SSL/TLS certificate credentials using In-VM connectors but I want to make sure.

Thank you,
Aaron

RE: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Posted by "Steigerwald, Aaron" <as...@brandesassociates.com.INVALID>.
Hello,

I solved my problem after looking at the org.apache.activemq.artemis.uri.schema.connector.InVMTransportConfigurationSchema.java code, finding the securityDomain URI query parameter, and reading about it in https://activemq.apache.org/components/artemis/documentation/latest/security.html. The in-vm acceptor can be set to a different security domain, i.e. realm than what is set in the bootstrap.xml "jaas-decurity domain" element. The following allows the broker's in-vm acceptor to always authenticate as the appropriate JAAS security role:

         <acceptor name="in-vm">vm://0?securityDomain=GuestRealm</acceptor>

Thanks,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Steigerwald, Aaron 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 4:17 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Hello again,

I should have sent the full broker.xml acceptors config to make it more clear. I want to use "Primary SSL" for remote clients and "in-vm" for embedded ones like Camel while using a JAAS realm that uses certificate DN strings to ultimately assign roles that are used in the broker.xml secruity settings for queue access/security.

      <acceptors>

         <acceptor name="Primary SSL">
            tcp://0.0.0.0:${artemis.port.broker}?protocols=CORE,OPENWIRE;
            sslEnabled=true;
            keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
            keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
            trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
            trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
            enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
            needClientAuth=true;
            supportAdvisory=false;
            suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
         </acceptor>

         <acceptor name="in-vm">
            vm://0
            sslEnabled=true;
            keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
            keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
            trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
            trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
            enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
            needClientAuth=true;
            supportAdvisory=false;
            suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
         </acceptor>

      </acceptors>

Thank you,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Steigerwald, Aaron
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 4:08 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Hello Justin,

I agree SSL in not needed for in-vm connections and I don't want to use it. However, I define the bootstrap.xml "jaas-decurity domain" as an org.apache.activemq.artemis.spi.core.security.jaas.TextFileCertificateLoginModule realm and use it to enforce security on queues that are accessed by both the local Camel client as well as remote clients. It appears that the in-vm connection needs a certificate DN string for the JAAS mechanism. Is there a way to configure security settings to allow full access for in-vm connections, essentially bypassing JAAS that is used for remote/Netty connections?

Thank you,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 3:07 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

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Connections using in-vm don't actually use any networking whatsoever so I wouldn't expect TLS/SSL to actually work. Furthermore, enforcing security on in-vm connections typically isn't necessary given that you're usually able to trust code that's running in the same JVM as the broker. Is there a specific reason you want to use mutual SSL for in-vm connections?


Justin

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 1:54 PM Steigerwald, Aaron <as...@brandesassociates.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does the Artemis In-VM acceptor and/or JMS client support passing 
> SSL/TLS certificate credentials for use with queue security? I'm 
> running Artemis
> 2.31.2 with an embedded Camel client. I get the following warnings and 
> errors in the log:
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:15,458 WARN
> [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server]
> AMQ222216: Security problem while authenticating: AMQ229031: Unable to 
> validate user from invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN:
> unavailable
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:20,478 ERROR
> [org.apache.camel.component.jms.DefaultJmsMessageListenerContainer]
> Could not refresh JMS Connection for destination 'my.queue.name' - 
> retrying using FixedBackOff{interval=5000, currentAttempts=0, 
> maxAttempts=unlimited}. Cause: AMQ229031: Unable to validate user from 
> invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN: unavailable
>
> This is the relevant configuration info:
>
> From broker.xml:
>
>          <acceptor name="in-vm">
>             vm://0
>             sslEnabled=true;
>             keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
>             keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
>             trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
>             trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
>             enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
>             needClientAuth=true;
>             supportAdvisory=false;
>             suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
>          </acceptor>
>
> From camelApplicationContext.xml:
>
>    <bean id="jmsConnectionFactoryLocal"
>
>  class="org.apache.activemq.artemis.jms.client.ActiveMQConnectionFactory">
>       <property name="brokerURL"
> value="vm://0?sslEnabled=true;keyStorePath=${camel.client.keyStore.uri};keyStorePassword=${camel.client.keyStorePassword};trustStorePath=${camel.client.trustStore.uri};trustStorePassword=${camel.client.trustStorePassword};enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2"/>
>    </bean>
>
> Everything works as expected using Netty/TCP acceptors and clients 
> with SSL parameters.
>
> It seems more appropriate to use an In-VM acceptor for embedded 
> clients, especially for performance.
>
> I found the following bug report-
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1807980, which led me to 
> this project's solution- https://github.com/candlepin/candlepin/pull/2680.
> Based on my limited understanding of what they did, it seems like 
> Artemis does not support passing SSL/TLS certificate credentials using 
> In-VM connectors but I want to make sure.
>
> Thank you,
> Aaron
>

RE: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Posted by "Steigerwald, Aaron" <as...@brandesassociates.com.INVALID>.
Hello again,

I should have sent the full broker.xml acceptors config to make it more clear. I want to use "Primary SSL" for remote clients and "in-vm" for embedded ones like Camel while using a JAAS realm that uses certificate DN strings to ultimately assign roles that are used in the broker.xml secruity settings for queue access/security.

      <acceptors>

         <acceptor name="Primary SSL">
            tcp://0.0.0.0:${artemis.port.broker}?protocols=CORE,OPENWIRE;
            sslEnabled=true;
            keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
            keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
            trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
            trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
            enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
            needClientAuth=true;
            supportAdvisory=false;
            suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
         </acceptor>

         <acceptor name="in-vm">
            vm://0
            sslEnabled=true;
            keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
            keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
            trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
            trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
            enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
            needClientAuth=true;
            supportAdvisory=false;
            suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
         </acceptor>

      </acceptors>

Thank you,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Steigerwald, Aaron 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 4:08 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: RE: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Hello Justin,

I agree SSL in not needed for in-vm connections and I don't want to use it. However, I define the bootstrap.xml "jaas-decurity domain" as an org.apache.activemq.artemis.spi.core.security.jaas.TextFileCertificateLoginModule realm and use it to enforce security on queues that are accessed by both the local Camel client as well as remote clients. It appears that the in-vm connection needs a certificate DN string for the JAAS mechanism. Is there a way to configure security settings to allow full access for in-vm connections, essentially bypassing JAAS that is used for remote/Netty connections?

Thank you,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 3:07 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

[CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.] ________________________________


Connections using in-vm don't actually use any networking whatsoever so I wouldn't expect TLS/SSL to actually work. Furthermore, enforcing security on in-vm connections typically isn't necessary given that you're usually able to trust code that's running in the same JVM as the broker. Is there a specific reason you want to use mutual SSL for in-vm connections?


Justin

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 1:54 PM Steigerwald, Aaron <as...@brandesassociates.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does the Artemis In-VM acceptor and/or JMS client support passing 
> SSL/TLS certificate credentials for use with queue security? I'm 
> running Artemis
> 2.31.2 with an embedded Camel client. I get the following warnings and 
> errors in the log:
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:15,458 WARN
> [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server]
> AMQ222216: Security problem while authenticating: AMQ229031: Unable to 
> validate user from invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN:
> unavailable
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:20,478 ERROR
> [org.apache.camel.component.jms.DefaultJmsMessageListenerContainer]
> Could not refresh JMS Connection for destination 'my.queue.name' - 
> retrying using FixedBackOff{interval=5000, currentAttempts=0, 
> maxAttempts=unlimited}. Cause: AMQ229031: Unable to validate user from 
> invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN: unavailable
>
> This is the relevant configuration info:
>
> From broker.xml:
>
>          <acceptor name="in-vm">
>             vm://0
>             sslEnabled=true;
>             keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
>             keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
>             trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
>             trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
>             enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
>             needClientAuth=true;
>             supportAdvisory=false;
>             suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
>          </acceptor>
>
> From camelApplicationContext.xml:
>
>    <bean id="jmsConnectionFactoryLocal"
>
>  class="org.apache.activemq.artemis.jms.client.ActiveMQConnectionFactory">
>       <property name="brokerURL"
> value="vm://0?sslEnabled=true;keyStorePath=${camel.client.keyStore.uri};keyStorePassword=${camel.client.keyStorePassword};trustStorePath=${camel.client.trustStore.uri};trustStorePassword=${camel.client.trustStorePassword};enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2"/>
>    </bean>
>
> Everything works as expected using Netty/TCP acceptors and clients 
> with SSL parameters.
>
> It seems more appropriate to use an In-VM acceptor for embedded 
> clients, especially for performance.
>
> I found the following bug report-
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1807980, which led me to 
> this project's solution- https://github.com/candlepin/candlepin/pull/2680.
> Based on my limited understanding of what they did, it seems like 
> Artemis does not support passing SSL/TLS certificate credentials using 
> In-VM connectors but I want to make sure.
>
> Thank you,
> Aaron
>

RE: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Posted by "Steigerwald, Aaron" <as...@brandesassociates.com.INVALID>.
Hello Justin,

I agree SSL in not needed for in-vm connections and I don't want to use it. However, I define the bootstrap.xml "jaas-decurity domain" as an org.apache.activemq.artemis.spi.core.security.jaas.TextFileCertificateLoginModule realm and use it to enforce security on queues that are accessed by both the local Camel client as well as remote clients. It appears that the in-vm connection needs a certificate DN string for the JAAS mechanism. Is there a way to configure security settings to allow full access for in-vm connections, essentially bypassing JAAS that is used for remote/Netty connections?

Thank you,
Aaron

-----Original Message-----
From: Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org> 
Sent: Wednesday, July 10, 2024 3:07 PM
To: users@activemq.apache.org
Subject: [EXTERNAL]:Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

[CAUTION: This email originated from outside of the organization. Do not click links or open attachments unless you recognize the sender and know the content is safe.] ________________________________


Connections using in-vm don't actually use any networking whatsoever so I wouldn't expect TLS/SSL to actually work. Furthermore, enforcing security on in-vm connections typically isn't necessary given that you're usually able to trust code that's running in the same JVM as the broker. Is there a specific reason you want to use mutual SSL for in-vm connections?


Justin

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 1:54 PM Steigerwald, Aaron <as...@brandesassociates.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does the Artemis In-VM acceptor and/or JMS client support passing 
> SSL/TLS certificate credentials for use with queue security? I'm 
> running Artemis
> 2.31.2 with an embedded Camel client. I get the following warnings and 
> errors in the log:
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:15,458 WARN  
> [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server]
> AMQ222216: Security problem while authenticating: AMQ229031: Unable to 
> validate user from invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN:
> unavailable
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:20,478 ERROR
> [org.apache.camel.component.jms.DefaultJmsMessageListenerContainer] 
> Could not refresh JMS Connection for destination 'my.queue.name' - 
> retrying using FixedBackOff{interval=5000, currentAttempts=0, 
> maxAttempts=unlimited}. Cause: AMQ229031: Unable to validate user from 
> invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN: unavailable
>
> This is the relevant configuration info:
>
> From broker.xml:
>
>          <acceptor name="in-vm">
>             vm://0
>             sslEnabled=true;
>             keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
>             keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
>             trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
>             trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
>             enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
>             needClientAuth=true;
>             supportAdvisory=false;
>             suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
>          </acceptor>
>
> From camelApplicationContext.xml:
>
>    <bean id="jmsConnectionFactoryLocal"
>
>  class="org.apache.activemq.artemis.jms.client.ActiveMQConnectionFactory">
>       <property name="brokerURL"
> value="vm://0?sslEnabled=true;keyStorePath=${camel.client.keyStore.uri};keyStorePassword=${camel.client.keyStorePassword};trustStorePath=${camel.client.trustStore.uri};trustStorePassword=${camel.client.trustStorePassword};enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2"/>
>    </bean>
>
> Everything works as expected using Netty/TCP acceptors and clients 
> with SSL parameters.
>
> It seems more appropriate to use an In-VM acceptor for embedded 
> clients, especially for performance.
>
> I found the following bug report-
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1807980, which led me to 
> this project's solution- https://github.com/candlepin/candlepin/pull/2680.
> Based on my limited understanding of what they did, it seems like 
> Artemis does not support passing SSL/TLS certificate credentials using 
> In-VM connectors but I want to make sure.
>
> Thank you,
> Aaron
>

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Re: Is In-VM SSL/TLS capable?

Posted by Justin Bertram <jb...@apache.org>.
Connections using in-vm don't actually use any networking whatsoever so I
wouldn't expect TLS/SSL to actually work. Furthermore, enforcing security
on in-vm connections typically isn't necessary given that you're usually
able to trust code that's running in the same JVM as the broker. Is there a
specific reason you want to use mutual SSL for in-vm connections?


Justin

On Wed, Jul 10, 2024 at 1:54 PM Steigerwald, Aaron
<as...@brandesassociates.com.invalid> wrote:

> Hello,
>
> Does the Artemis In-VM acceptor and/or JMS client support passing SSL/TLS
> certificate credentials for use with queue security? I'm running Artemis
> 2.31.2 with an embedded Camel client. I get the following warnings and
> errors in the log:
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:15,458 WARN  [org.apache.activemq.artemis.core.server]
> AMQ222216: Security problem while authenticating: AMQ229031: Unable to
> validate user from invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN:
> unavailable
>
> 2024-07-10 15:31:20,478 ERROR
> [org.apache.camel.component.jms.DefaultJmsMessageListenerContainer] Could
> not refresh JMS Connection for destination 'my.queue.name' - retrying
> using FixedBackOff{interval=5000, currentAttempts=0,
> maxAttempts=unlimited}. Cause: AMQ229031: Unable to validate user from
> invm:0. Username: null; SSL certificate subject DN: unavailable
>
> This is the relevant configuration info:
>
> From broker.xml:
>
>          <acceptor name="in-vm">
>             vm://0
>             sslEnabled=true;
>             keyStorePath=${artemis.broker.keyStore.uri};
>             keyStorePassword=${artemis.broker.keyStorePassword};
>             trustStorePath=${artemis.broker.trustStore.uri};
>             trustStorePassword=${artemis.broker.trustStorePassword};
>             enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2;
>             needClientAuth=true;
>             supportAdvisory=false;
>             suppressInternalManagementObjects=true
>          </acceptor>
>
> From camelApplicationContext.xml:
>
>    <bean id="jmsConnectionFactoryLocal"
>
>  class="org.apache.activemq.artemis.jms.client.ActiveMQConnectionFactory">
>       <property name="brokerURL"
> value="vm://0?sslEnabled=true;keyStorePath=${camel.client.keyStore.uri};keyStorePassword=${camel.client.keyStorePassword};trustStorePath=${camel.client.trustStore.uri};trustStorePassword=${camel.client.trustStorePassword};enabledProtocols=TLSv1.2"/>
>    </bean>
>
> Everything works as expected using Netty/TCP acceptors and clients with
> SSL parameters.
>
> It seems more appropriate to use an In-VM acceptor for embedded clients,
> especially for performance.
>
> I found the following bug report-
> https://bugzilla.redhat.com/show_bug.cgi?id=1807980, which led me to this
> project's solution- https://github.com/candlepin/candlepin/pull/2680.
> Based on my limited understanding of what they did, it seems like Artemis
> does not support passing SSL/TLS certificate credentials using In-VM
> connectors but I want to make sure.
>
> Thank you,
> Aaron
>