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[Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a JBoss 
to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when converting 
applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically converts the 
configuration file from one app server to the other.

We feel that this piece of software adds value to Geronimo and users 
adopting Geronimo and would like to see this effort continue as part of 
the Geronimo project, a plugin or a sub project of Geronimo.

The initial donation is for version 1.0 of this tool, and while a 1.1 is 
in the making to improve 1.0, 1.1 is not yet complete but will be 
donated as soon as the community feels that this tool belongs at the 
ASF, more specifically within the Geronimo project.

If you'd think this tool is valuable, but believe it should go through 
incubation, we would hope that a Geronimo committer would step up and 
champion this effort.

The tool, including IBM's CCLA, can be found at 
http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/j2g/j2g.html (Covalent will file the 
CCLA upon request)

thanks for your time,
Filip


Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com>.
Since these are filed under areas available and viewable
by an officer, the PMC chair, if so inclined, can
keep track of it.

On Mar 15, 2007, at 12:55 PM, Paul McMahan wrote:

> Thanks Jim. For future reference what's the best way to ask for this
> type of verification?  Should we use general@incubator?
>
> Best wishes,
> Paul
>
> On 3/14/07, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
>> The IBM and Covalent grants for the J2G Migration toolset
>> (as described here and in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/
>> GERONIMO-2743)
>> have been rec'd and filed.
>>
>>
>


Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
Thanks Jim. For future reference what's the best way to ask for this
type of verification?  Should we use general@incubator?

Best wishes,
Paul

On 3/14/07, Jim Jagielski <ji...@jagunet.com> wrote:
> The IBM and Covalent grants for the J2G Migration toolset
> (as described here and in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/
> GERONIMO-2743)
> have been rec'd and filed.
>
>

Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Jim Jagielski <ji...@jaguNET.com>.
The IBM and Covalent grants for the J2G Migration toolset
(as described here and in https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/ 
GERONIMO-2743)
have been rec'd and filed.


Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
I believe this requires a formal vote of the project first.

-dain

On Jan 23, 2007, at 9:43 AM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

> So far we have received a few positive comments, no negative and no  
> vetos.
> So are we ok with this donation and ready to move forward, possible  
> into incubation?
>
> Filip
>
> Kevan Miller wrote:
>>
>> On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
>>
>>> +1 on the CCLA's with a patch submission.  If it's a considerable  
>>> piece of code perhaps a software grant may be in order.
>>>
>>> There is no reason why something this small should incubate.
>>
>> It seems to match the incubator guidelines for code donations  
>> pretty well. You may disagree with these guidelines, but the  
>> incubation process for code donations (which are being accepted by  
>> an existing project) seems lightweight enough... I don't see why  
>> we shouldn't follow it... It's 2 days of waiting + some extra  
>> paper work collecting info that we should probably have anyway...
>>
>> --kevan
>>
>>
>>
>>
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Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Paul McMahan <pa...@gmail.com>.
I took a look at this package and found a lot of potentially valuable
material for Geronimo users.  It contains source code for a collection
of command line utils and eclipse plugins, several unit test cases,
build scripts in good working order, and good documentation.

The project is not designed to run in the Geronimo server, so it would
not be a good candidate for a Geronimo plugin.  Instead I thought at
first that its eclipse plugins could be merged with Geronimo's devtool
subproject and the command line utils could be merged into geronimo's
bin/ directory alongside the deployment and startup scripts.  But then
I realized that the command line utils actually have dependencies on
eclipse in one way or another.  So it seems that the entire package
would more likely fit into Geronimo's devtools subproject.  I wonder
what Sachin thinks about that... :-)

A quick "wc -l" counted almost 10 KLOC, and I noticed several IBM
copyrights, package names, etc in the src which I suppose the
incubation process would address.  I don't know enough about that
process to comment on whether or not its strictly necessary.  But if
an ASF member wants to champion this entry through that process then I
can help provide technical feedback from a Geronimo perspective.  One
thing that incubation might help address is how much community support
will be required to keep the package useful and up to date since the
material it processes (Geronimo and JBoss deployment plans) tends to
change with almost every release.

Best wishes,
Paul

On 1/23/07, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com> wrote:
> So far we have received a few positive comments, no negative and no vetos.
> So are we ok with this donation and ready to move forward, possible into
> incubation?
>
> Filip
>
> Kevan Miller wrote:
> >
> > On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
> >
> >> +1 on the CCLA's with a patch submission.  If it's a considerable
> >> piece of code perhaps a software grant may be in order.
> >>
> >> There is no reason why something this small should incubate.
> >
> > It seems to match the incubator guidelines for code donations pretty
> > well. You may disagree with these guidelines, but the incubation
> > process for code donations (which are being accepted by an existing
> > project) seems lightweight enough... I don't see why we shouldn't
> > follow it... It's 2 days of waiting + some extra paper work collecting
> > info that we should probably have anyway...
> >
> > --kevan
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > --No virus found in this incoming message.
> > Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> > Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date:
> > 1/16/2007 4:36 PM
> >
> >
>
>

Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com>.
So far we have received a few positive comments, no negative and no vetos.
So are we ok with this donation and ready to move forward, possible into 
incubation?

Filip

Kevan Miller wrote:
>
> On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:
>
>> +1 on the CCLA's with a patch submission.  If it's a considerable 
>> piece of code perhaps a software grant may be in order.
>>
>> There is no reason why something this small should incubate.
>
> It seems to match the incubator guidelines for code donations pretty 
> well. You may disagree with these guidelines, but the incubation 
> process for code donations (which are being accepted by an existing 
> project) seems lightweight enough... I don't see why we shouldn't 
> follow it... It's 2 days of waiting + some extra paper work collecting 
> info that we should probably have anyway...
>
> --kevan
>
>
>
>
> --No virus found in this incoming message.
> Checked by AVG Free Edition.
> Version: 7.5.432 / Virus Database: 268.16.13/632 - Release Date: 
> 1/16/2007 4:36 PM
>
>


Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 17, 2007, at 10:33 AM, Alex Karasulu wrote:

> +1 on the CCLA's with a patch submission.  If it's a considerable  
> piece of code perhaps a software grant may be in order.
>
> There is no reason why something this small should incubate.

It seems to match the incubator guidelines for code donations pretty  
well. You may disagree with these guidelines, but the incubation  
process for code donations (which are being accepted by an existing  
project) seems lightweight enough... I don't see why we shouldn't  
follow it... It's 2 days of waiting + some extra paper work  
collecting info that we should probably have anyway...

--kevan



Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Alex Karasulu <ak...@apache.org>.
+1 on the CCLA's with a patch submission.  If it's a considerable piece of
code perhaps a software grant may be in order.

There is no reason why something this small should incubate.

Regards,
Alex

On 1/17/07, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com> wrote:
>
> Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> > On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
> >
> >> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a
> >> JBoss to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when converting
> >> applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically converts the
> >> configuration file from one app server to the other.
> >>
> >> We feel that this piece of software adds value to Geronimo and users
> >> adopting Geronimo and would like to see this effort continue as part
> >> of the Geronimo project, a plugin or a sub project of Geronimo.
> >>
> >> The initial donation is for version 1.0 of this tool, and while a 1.1
> >> is in the making to improve 1.0, 1.1 is not yet complete but will be
> >> donated as soon as the community feels that this tool belongs at the
> >> ASF, more specifically within the Geronimo project.
> >>
> >> If you'd think this tool is valuable, but believe it should go
> >> through incubation, we would hope that a Geronimo committer would
> >> step up and champion this effort.
> >>
> >> The tool, including IBM's CCLA, can be found at
> >> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/j2g/j2g.html (Covalent will file the
> >> CCLA upon request)
> >
> > I suggest you file one regardless.  Apache likes to see CCLAs for any
> > non trivial donation.
> >
> > -dain
> will do as soon as JIRA comes back up.
> Filip
>

Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com>.
Dain Sundstrom wrote:
> On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>
>> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a 
>> JBoss to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when converting 
>> applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically converts the 
>> configuration file from one app server to the other.
>>
>> We feel that this piece of software adds value to Geronimo and users 
>> adopting Geronimo and would like to see this effort continue as part 
>> of the Geronimo project, a plugin or a sub project of Geronimo.
>>
>> The initial donation is for version 1.0 of this tool, and while a 1.1 
>> is in the making to improve 1.0, 1.1 is not yet complete but will be 
>> donated as soon as the community feels that this tool belongs at the 
>> ASF, more specifically within the Geronimo project.
>>
>> If you'd think this tool is valuable, but believe it should go 
>> through incubation, we would hope that a Geronimo committer would 
>> step up and champion this effort.
>>
>> The tool, including IBM's CCLA, can be found at 
>> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/j2g/j2g.html (Covalent will file the 
>> CCLA upon request)
>
> I suggest you file one regardless.  Apache likes to see CCLAs for any 
> non trivial donation.
>
> -dain
will do as soon as JIRA comes back up.
Filip

Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Dain Sundstrom <da...@iq80.com>.
On Jan 16, 2007, at 12:19 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a  
> JBoss to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when  
> converting applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically  
> converts the configuration file from one app server to the other.
>
> We feel that this piece of software adds value to Geronimo and  
> users adopting Geronimo and would like to see this effort continue  
> as part of the Geronimo project, a plugin or a sub project of  
> Geronimo.
>
> The initial donation is for version 1.0 of this tool, and while a  
> 1.1 is in the making to improve 1.0, 1.1 is not yet complete but  
> will be donated as soon as the community feels that this tool  
> belongs at the ASF, more specifically within the Geronimo project.
>
> If you'd think this tool is valuable, but believe it should go  
> through incubation, we would hope that a Geronimo committer would  
> step up and champion this effort.
>
> The tool, including IBM's CCLA, can be found at http:// 
> people.apache.org/~fhanik/j2g/j2g.html (Covalent will file the CCLA  
> upon request)

I suggest you file one regardless.  Apache likes to see CCLAs for any  
non trivial donation.

-dain

Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Hernan Cunico <hc...@gmail.com>.
You clicked the right one, *ASF Granted License* both *YES*.

Cheers!
Hernan


Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
> Jacek Laskowski wrote:
>> On 1/16/07, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com> wrote:
>>
>>> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a JBoss
>>> to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when converting
>>> applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically converts the
>>> configuration file from one app server to the other.
>>
>> Whow! That's great! Could you rise an jira issue with the files
>> attached (and ASF donation field checked)?
>>
>> Jacek
> 
> JIRA Issue: 2743
> https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2743
> 
> Please note: I can't find the "ASF Donation" field, although I checked 
> the inclusion GRANT radio button on the attachment page
> 
> Filip
> 
> 

Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com>.
Jacek Laskowski wrote:
> On 1/16/07, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com> wrote:
>
>> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a JBoss
>> to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when converting
>> applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically converts the
>> configuration file from one app server to the other.
>
> Whow! That's great! Could you rise an jira issue with the files
> attached (and ASF donation field checked)?
>
> Jacek

JIRA Issue: 2743
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2743

Please note: I can't find the "ASF Donation" field, although I checked 
the inclusion GRANT radio button on the attachment page

Filip


Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Jacek Laskowski <ja...@laskowski.net.pl>.
On 1/16/07, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com> wrote:

> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a JBoss
> to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when converting
> applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically converts the
> configuration file from one app server to the other.

Whow! That's great! Could you rise an jira issue with the files
attached (and ASF donation field checked)?

Jacek

-- 
Jacek Laskowski
http://www.JacekLaskowski.pl

Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Filip Hanik - Dev Lists <de...@hanik.com>.
A small correction,
there is not a 1.1 in the making, however there are numerous bug fixes 
that will be applied to the tool once it finds a home either in 
incubator or in G svn.
Those bug fixes will be applied already having a ASF license and will 
not have to be considered a donation.
Covalent's CCLA has been uploaded to JIRA 
https://issues.apache.org/jira/browse/GERONIMO-2743

Filip

Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:
>
> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a 
> JBoss to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when converting 
> applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically converts the 
> configuration file from one app server to the other.
>
> We feel that this piece of software adds value to Geronimo and users 
> adopting Geronimo and would like to see this effort continue as part 
> of the Geronimo project, a plugin or a sub project of Geronimo.
>
> The initial donation is for version 1.0 of this tool, and while a 1.1 
> is in the making to improve 1.0, 1.1 is not yet complete but will be 
> donated as soon as the community feels that this tool belongs at the 
> ASF, more specifically within the Geronimo project.
>
> If you'd think this tool is valuable, but believe it should go through 
> incubation, we would hope that a Geronimo committer would step up and 
> champion this effort.
>
> The tool, including IBM's CCLA, can be found at 
> http://people.apache.org/~fhanik/j2g/j2g.html (Covalent will file the 
> CCLA upon request)
>
> thanks for your time,
> Filip
>
>
>


Re: [Code donation] J2G Conversion tool

Posted by Kevan Miller <ke...@gmail.com>.
On Jan 16, 2007, at 3:19 PM, Filip Hanik - Dev Lists wrote:

>
> IBM has together with in a joint effort with Covalent developed a  
> JBoss to Geronimo conversion tool. This tool is used when  
> converting applications from JBoss to Geronimo, and automatically  
> converts the configuration file from one app server to the other.
>
> We feel that this piece of software adds value to Geronimo and  
> users adopting Geronimo and would like to see this effort continue  
> as part of the Geronimo project, a plugin or a sub project of  
> Geronimo.
>
> The initial donation is for version 1.0 of this tool, and while a  
> 1.1 is in the making to improve 1.0, 1.1 is not yet complete but  
> will be donated as soon as the community feels that this tool  
> belongs at the ASF, more specifically within the Geronimo project.
>
> If you'd think this tool is valuable, but believe it should go  
> through incubation, we would hope that a Geronimo committer would  
> step up and champion this effort.
>
> The tool, including IBM's CCLA, can be found at http:// 
> people.apache.org/~fhanik/j2g/j2g.html (Covalent will file the CCLA  
> upon request)

Thanks Filip. Sounds very useful.

One initial comment -- I see most files are copyrighted by IBM, but  
two files (ant config files) are copyrighted by Axmor Software. I  
would hope that all of the copyrights would be removed and an Apache  
src license header added to the files...

All,
Concerning process... It's my understanding that a code donation such  
as this must be cleared by the Apache Incubator.  Here's some more  
info -- http://incubator.apache.org/ip-clearance/index.html.

Seems that the process is something like:

1) The Geronimo PMC votes on whether or not to accept the donation
2) Assuming that the donation is accepted, the Geronimo PMC must  
complete an IP Clearance Form -- http://incubator.apache.org/ip- 
clearance/ip-clearance-template.html. Note that this form must be  
"executed" by an ASF Officer or Member.
3) The completed form must be committed to the incubator svn repository.
4) The incubator web site is updated with info about the donation.
5) A note is sent to general@incubator to inform the incubator of the  
donation.
6) Assuming no dissent from the incubator, after a lazy consensus  
period of 48 hours, we can commit the code.

First step is to take a look at the submission, discuss, and decide  
if we want to accept the donation...

--kevan