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Relative and Comparative Mood Analysis
Hi All
On the mood analysis screen https://s.apache.org/YImU
I’ve noticed the toggle on the mood analysis so would like to know exactly what this means.
Also if you click the box to toggle between the two modes then it’s not clear from the screen when you are using ‘Relative’ mode and when you are using ‘Comparative’ mode.
Thanks
Sharan
Re: Relative and Comparative Mood Analysis
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Thanks Daniel, that's a lot clearer now.
On 2018/09/11 18:05:11, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 09/11/2018 08:03 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> > Hi Daniel
> >
> > Thanks for the response. I've included some comments inline.
> >
> > On 2018/09/11 10:40:46, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> >> On 09/11/2018 12:23 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> >>> Hi All
> >>>
> >>> On the mood analysis screen https://s.apache.org/YImU
> >>>
> >>> I’ve noticed the toggle on the mood analysis so would like to know exactly what this means.
> >>>
> >>> Also if you click the box to toggle between the two modes then it’s not clear from the screen when you are using ‘Relative’ mode and when you are using ‘Comparative’ mode.
> >>
> >> The text in the charts change when you tick the box, and should explain
> >> what it is.
> >
> > Ah.. I see that now but am glad to hear the elaboration as it wasn't clear to me.
> >
> > If that's not clear enough, let me elaborate:
> >>
> >> Standard (unticked) mode
> >
> > So does standard mode = relative mode?
>
> "relative/comparative" is *one* mode, it's either off or on :)
> two words for the same mode.
>
> If enabled, it compares moods to *all* lists it has, regardless of
> filtering.
> If off, it only shows how that list (or those lists) are.
>
> >
> > shows the moods as an 'absolute' value
> >> unrelated to the average across lists. Moods are still relative to each
> >> other (in that the median is close to 100), but they only reflect the
> >> list(s) you have chosen to analyze.
> >
> > Ok so to me this means that the relative mode shows the mood analysis say across one project if that is the filter being used. So with my Httpd example - in relative mode this gives me an indicator of the general mood profile for Httpd based on and in relation to the other moods that the Httpd project generates.
> >
> > And the mood gauge in relative mode gives me an overall indication of the filtered project or view (e.g Httpd) based on the moods found in the sources for the filter. So the more positive the moods found, the higher the rating will be.
> >
> > If my understanding is wrong then please correct me as I really need to get this as it is going to be part of my research :-)
> >
> >>
> >> Relative mode (ticked)
> >
> > Should this be Comparative mode?
> >
> > uses the same values, but compares them to the
> >> overall moods found in *all* lists in the database.
> >
> > So does this mean that you are comparing against all the sources for the organisation or if you have multiple organisations will it compare against all organisations?
> >
> > From what you say, it sounds like comparative mode (if that is what it is) compares the mood profile against everything. So Kibbletest will compare Httpd's mood profile against all the other projects loaded into Kibbletest.
> >
> >
> > Thus, on the right
> >> side, a score of 50% or above means you are doing as well or better than
> >> other lists in terms of happy moods, and a score lower than that would
> >> mean the list(s) don't quite reflect the overall mood of all lists. On
> >> the left side, the values are relative to overall mood as well, in that
> >> 100 means 'same as all the other lists', anything higher means a more
> >> prevalent occurrence on the list(s) you picked, whereas a value lower
> >> than 100 means it's less frequent there compared to the overall average.
> >>
> >
> > OK this is good and this is clearer
> >
> > So now I'm after more :-) Is there a way to compare the mood profiles of two different projects. For example, if I wanted to compare the profiles of Httpd and Beam, how could I do that?
> >
> >> I hope that helps, and if we need to work on the UI explanations, maybe
> >> add a document to the documentation, then so be it :)
> >
> > It does - thanks. I'd probably be happier with clearer explanations so will document what I can as I'm going through.
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
> >>
> >> With regards,
> >> Daniel.
> >>
> >>>
> >>> Thanks
> >>> Sharan
> >>>
> >>
> >>
>
>
Re: Relative and Comparative Mood Analysis
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 09/11/2018 08:03 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi Daniel
>
> Thanks for the response. I've included some comments inline.
>
> On 2018/09/11 10:40:46, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
>> On 09/11/2018 12:23 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
>>> Hi All
>>>
>>> On the mood analysis screen https://s.apache.org/YImU
>>>
>>> I’ve noticed the toggle on the mood analysis so would like to know exactly what this means.
>>>
>>> Also if you click the box to toggle between the two modes then it’s not clear from the screen when you are using ‘Relative’ mode and when you are using ‘Comparative’ mode.
>>
>> The text in the charts change when you tick the box, and should explain
>> what it is.
>
> Ah.. I see that now but am glad to hear the elaboration as it wasn't clear to me.
>
> If that's not clear enough, let me elaborate:
>>
>> Standard (unticked) mode
>
> So does standard mode = relative mode?
"relative/comparative" is *one* mode, it's either off or on :)
two words for the same mode.
If enabled, it compares moods to *all* lists it has, regardless of
filtering.
If off, it only shows how that list (or those lists) are.
>
> shows the moods as an 'absolute' value
>> unrelated to the average across lists. Moods are still relative to each
>> other (in that the median is close to 100), but they only reflect the
>> list(s) you have chosen to analyze.
>
> Ok so to me this means that the relative mode shows the mood analysis say across one project if that is the filter being used. So with my Httpd example - in relative mode this gives me an indicator of the general mood profile for Httpd based on and in relation to the other moods that the Httpd project generates.
>
> And the mood gauge in relative mode gives me an overall indication of the filtered project or view (e.g Httpd) based on the moods found in the sources for the filter. So the more positive the moods found, the higher the rating will be.
>
> If my understanding is wrong then please correct me as I really need to get this as it is going to be part of my research :-)
>
>>
>> Relative mode (ticked)
>
> Should this be Comparative mode?
>
> uses the same values, but compares them to the
>> overall moods found in *all* lists in the database.
>
> So does this mean that you are comparing against all the sources for the organisation or if you have multiple organisations will it compare against all organisations?
>
> From what you say, it sounds like comparative mode (if that is what it is) compares the mood profile against everything. So Kibbletest will compare Httpd's mood profile against all the other projects loaded into Kibbletest.
>
>
> Thus, on the right
>> side, a score of 50% or above means you are doing as well or better than
>> other lists in terms of happy moods, and a score lower than that would
>> mean the list(s) don't quite reflect the overall mood of all lists. On
>> the left side, the values are relative to overall mood as well, in that
>> 100 means 'same as all the other lists', anything higher means a more
>> prevalent occurrence on the list(s) you picked, whereas a value lower
>> than 100 means it's less frequent there compared to the overall average.
>>
>
> OK this is good and this is clearer
>
> So now I'm after more :-) Is there a way to compare the mood profiles of two different projects. For example, if I wanted to compare the profiles of Httpd and Beam, how could I do that?
>
>> I hope that helps, and if we need to work on the UI explanations, maybe
>> add a document to the documentation, then so be it :)
>
> It does - thanks. I'd probably be happier with clearer explanations so will document what I can as I'm going through.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>
>>
>> With regards,
>> Daniel.
>>
>>>
>>> Thanks
>>> Sharan
>>>
>>
>>
Re: Relative and Comparative Mood Analysis
Posted by Sharan Foga <sh...@apache.org>.
Hi Daniel
Thanks for the response. I've included some comments inline.
On 2018/09/11 10:40:46, Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org> wrote:
> On 09/11/2018 12:23 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> > Hi All
> >
> > On the mood analysis screen https://s.apache.org/YImU
> >
> > I’ve noticed the toggle on the mood analysis so would like to know exactly what this means.
> >
> > Also if you click the box to toggle between the two modes then it’s not clear from the screen when you are using ‘Relative’ mode and when you are using ‘Comparative’ mode.
>
> The text in the charts change when you tick the box, and should explain
> what it is.
Ah.. I see that now but am glad to hear the elaboration as it wasn't clear to me.
If that's not clear enough, let me elaborate:
>
> Standard (unticked) mode
So does standard mode = relative mode?
shows the moods as an 'absolute' value
> unrelated to the average across lists. Moods are still relative to each
> other (in that the median is close to 100), but they only reflect the
> list(s) you have chosen to analyze.
Ok so to me this means that the relative mode shows the mood analysis say across one project if that is the filter being used. So with my Httpd example - in relative mode this gives me an indicator of the general mood profile for Httpd based on and in relation to the other moods that the Httpd project generates.
And the mood gauge in relative mode gives me an overall indication of the filtered project or view (e.g Httpd) based on the moods found in the sources for the filter. So the more positive the moods found, the higher the rating will be.
If my understanding is wrong then please correct me as I really need to get this as it is going to be part of my research :-)
>
> Relative mode (ticked)
Should this be Comparative mode?
uses the same values, but compares them to the
> overall moods found in *all* lists in the database.
So does this mean that you are comparing against all the sources for the organisation or if you have multiple organisations will it compare against all organisations?
From what you say, it sounds like comparative mode (if that is what it is) compares the mood profile against everything. So Kibbletest will compare Httpd's mood profile against all the other projects loaded into Kibbletest.
Thus, on the right
> side, a score of 50% or above means you are doing as well or better than
> other lists in terms of happy moods, and a score lower than that would
> mean the list(s) don't quite reflect the overall mood of all lists. On
> the left side, the values are relative to overall mood as well, in that
> 100 means 'same as all the other lists', anything higher means a more
> prevalent occurrence on the list(s) you picked, whereas a value lower
> than 100 means it's less frequent there compared to the overall average.
>
OK this is good and this is clearer
So now I'm after more :-) Is there a way to compare the mood profiles of two different projects. For example, if I wanted to compare the profiles of Httpd and Beam, how could I do that?
> I hope that helps, and if we need to work on the UI explanations, maybe
> add a document to the documentation, then so be it :)
It does - thanks. I'd probably be happier with clearer explanations so will document what I can as I'm going through.
Thanks
Sharan
>
> With regards,
> Daniel.
>
> >
> > Thanks
> > Sharan
> >
>
>
Re: Relative and Comparative Mood Analysis
Posted by Daniel Gruno <hu...@apache.org>.
On 09/11/2018 12:23 PM, Sharan Foga wrote:
> Hi All
>
> On the mood analysis screen https://s.apache.org/YImU
>
> I’ve noticed the toggle on the mood analysis so would like to know exactly what this means.
>
> Also if you click the box to toggle between the two modes then it’s not clear from the screen when you are using ‘Relative’ mode and when you are using ‘Comparative’ mode.
The text in the charts change when you tick the box, and should explain
what it is. If that's not clear enough, let me elaborate:
Standard (unticked) mode shows the moods as an 'absolute' value
unrelated to the average across lists. Moods are still relative to each
other (in that the median is close to 100), but they only reflect the
list(s) you have chosen to analyze.
Relative mode (ticked) uses the same values, but compares them to the
overall moods found in *all* lists in the database. Thus, on the right
side, a score of 50% or above means you are doing as well or better than
other lists in terms of happy moods, and a score lower than that would
mean the list(s) don't quite reflect the overall mood of all lists. On
the left side, the values are relative to overall mood as well, in that
100 means 'same as all the other lists', anything higher means a more
prevalent occurrence on the list(s) you picked, whereas a value lower
than 100 means it's less frequent there compared to the overall average.
I hope that helps, and if we need to work on the UI explanations, maybe
add a document to the documentation, then so be it :)
With regards,
Daniel.
>
> Thanks
> Sharan
>